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thelonecrouton

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Quote from: superplus on November 19, 2014, 12:05:10 PM

i see the point, but in general the network will gain huge advantages from decentralized mining..
Every coin, including btc, is dominated by huge pools. If drkcoin had primarily p2pminers it would be safer than btc from that view..
(this could affect the value of your investment also Wink

)

Yeah it would be a big PR win, a market win, and a huge embarrassment to every other centralised PoW coin. Cool

Walter_S

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Quote from: bitalkpl on November 19, 2014, 11:53:16 AM

v0.10.16.16 is out! Please update: https://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/

Great work! All my MNs updated

Walter

Drobek

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Quote from: superplus on November 19, 2014, 12:05:10 PM

Quote from: Drobek on November 19, 2014, 11:50:48 AM

Quote from: superplus on November 19, 2014, 06:56:21 AM

btw. whats about the idea supporting p2p pools somehow..? masternode donation seems quite interesting..

whats evans opinion?

As owner of three masternodes I strongly disagree with redistribution of MN income.

Let the market decide whether P2P pool will be used or not - the key is to improve the user experience and make
it accessible to total Linux newbies not to bribe the users to mine there.

i see the point, but in general the network will gain huge advantages from decentralized mining..
Every coin, including btc, is dominated by huge pools. If drkcoin had primarily p2pminers it would be safer than btc from that view..
(this could affect the value of your investment also Wink

)

I get the added value - would be nice to have another perk but the P2P mining itself should be made more attractive rather than subsidised.

eahmadov

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Don't you just love Russian lawmakers? Without knowing it, they are making Bitcoin and Darkcoin even more attractive tool for the rich

Full article: http://rt.com/business/206955-russia-anti-offshore-law/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

superplus

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on November 19, 2014, 11:53:35 AM

Quote from: superplus on November 19, 2014, 11:48:53 AM

Quote from: thefrog on November 19, 2014, 09:48:35 AM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on November 19, 2014, 09:44:24 AM

Quote from: salmion on November 19, 2014, 09:40:15 AM

How hard would it be to add the p2pool server software to wallets?

Not entirely trivial. I've thought about it. p2pool is in python and has a lot of deps, official wallet is c++, result would be unwieldy...

I think they are best kept separate for now, but a simple to install (1-click) prepackaged p2pool would be awesome.

Someone could even create a vm drop in image with all the stuff needed, so 'end user' needs only to open specific ports, or enable upnp maybe only.
Not too complicated, and could be run with for example free vmware player on any platform (although, I prefer virtualbox myself).
I would vote against including this in standard wallet.

as far as i read there were following suggestions for p2ppool enlargement:

- implementing p2pmining in the wallet, which seems to be quite difficult since wallet is written in c++ and p2ppool in python
- donations to p2ppool from master nodes
- enforcement (?) of p2pmining
- oneclick installer for p2pmining

imagine, if dark coin network would have more than a half of p2p miners...
this would be a huge step for security and the original idea of decentralization.

Not sue if you saw my edit, but giving users the option in-wallet to mine via their nearest, or a specified p2pool, rather than solo mine, wouldn't be difficult to implement.

didnt see that ...

but thats basically what wallet implementation would mean doesn't it?

thelonecrouton

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Crouton Millionnairenodes updated.

TanteStefana2

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Quote from: eduffield on November 19, 2014, 11:50:20 AM

v0.10.16.16 is out! Everyone please update

- Found the issue causing "last darksend was too recent"

Mixing should be much faster now.

https://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/

Done

superplus

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Quote from: Drobek on November 19, 2014, 11:50:48 AM

Quote from: superplus on November 19, 2014, 06:56:21 AM

btw. whats about the idea supporting p2p pools somehow..? masternode donation seems quite interesting..

whats evans opinion?

As owner of three masternodes I strongly disagree with redistribution of MN income.

Let the market decide whether P2P pool will be used or not - the key is to improve the user experience and make
it accessible to total Linux newbies not to bribe the users to mine there.

i see the point, but in general the network will gain huge advantages from decentralized mining..
Every coin, including btc, is dominated by huge pools. If drkcoin had primarily p2pminers it would be safer than btc from that view..
(this could affect the value of your investment also Wink

)

DiCE1904

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Quote from: eduffield on November 19, 2014, 11:50:20 AM

v0.10.16.16 is out! Everyone please update

- Found the issue causing "last darksend was too recent"

Mixing should be much faster now.

https://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/

Thanks!

thelonecrouton

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Quote from: superplus on November 19, 2014, 11:48:53 AM

Quote from: thefrog on November 19, 2014, 09:48:35 AM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on November 19, 2014, 09:44:24 AM

Quote from: salmion on November 19, 2014, 09:40:15 AM

How hard would it be to add the p2pool server software to wallets?

Not entirely trivial. I've thought about it. p2pool is in python and has a lot of deps, official wallet is c++, result would be unwieldy...

I think they are best kept separate for now, but a simple to install (1-click) prepackaged p2pool would be awesome.

Someone could even create a vm drop in image with all the stuff needed, so 'end user' needs only to open specific ports, or enable upnp maybe only.
Not too complicated, and could be run with for example free vmware player on any platform (although, I prefer virtualbox myself).
I would vote against including this in standard wallet.

as far as i read there were following suggestions for p2ppool enlargement:

- implementing p2pmining in the wallet, which seems to be quite difficult since wallet is written in c++ and p2ppool in python
- donations to p2ppool from master nodes
- enforcement (?) of p2pmining
- oneclick installer for p2pmining

imagine, if dark coin network would have more than a half of p2p miners...
this would be a huge step for security and the original idea of decentralization.

Not sue if you saw my edit, but giving users the option in-wallet to mine via their nearest, or a specified p2pool, rather than solo mine, wouldn't be difficult to implement.

bitalkpl

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v0.10.16.16 is out! Please update: https://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/

Drobek

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Quote from: superplus on November 19, 2014, 06:56:21 AM

btw. whats about the idea supporting p2p pools somehow..? masternode donation seems quite interesting..

whats evans opinion?

As owner of three masternodes I strongly disagree with redistribution of MN income.

Let the market decide whether P2P pool will be used or not - the key is to improve the user experience and make
it accessible to total Linux newbies not to bribe the users to mine there.

eduffield

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Merit: 1036

Dash Developer

v0.10.16.16 is out! Everyone please update

- Found the issue causing "last darksend was too recent"

Mixing should be much faster now.

https://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/

superplus

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Quote from: thefrog on November 19, 2014, 09:48:35 AM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on November 19, 2014, 09:44:24 AM

Quote from: salmion on November 19, 2014, 09:40:15 AM

How hard would it be to add the p2pool server software to wallets?

Not entirely trivial. I've thought about it. p2pool is in python and has a lot of deps, official wallet is c++, result would be unwieldy...

I think they are best kept separate for now, but a simple to install (1-click) prepackaged p2pool would be awesome.

Someone could even create a vm drop in image with all the stuff needed, so 'end user' needs only to open specific ports, or enable upnp maybe only.
Not too complicated, and could be run with for example free vmware player on any platform (although, I prefer virtualbox myself).
I would vote against including this in standard wallet.

as far as i read there were following suggestions for p2ppool enlargement:

- implementing p2pmining in the wallet, which seems to be quite difficult since wallet is written in c++ and p2ppool in python
- donations to p2ppool from master nodes
- enforcement (?) of p2pmining
- oneclick installer for p2pmining

imagine, if dark coin network would have more than a half of p2p miners...
this would be a huge step for security and the original idea of decentralization.

jiggytom

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Markets awakening a little.

spatula

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Quote from: myxamop on November 19, 2014, 06:22:22 AM

Quote from: Terwa on November 18, 2014, 07:16:10 PM

Quote from: spatula on November 18, 2014, 06:56:00 PM

Quote from: spatula on November 11, 2014, 06:11:42 PM

Sorry to interrupt all this price talk, but I would like to buy a sweet Darkcoin sticker for my snowboard. Any ideas?

I got one

Did you pay with darks?? Wink

where can i buy this sticker?

I got it by sending a message to this guy on the snowboarding subreddit offering Die-cut graphics for cheap. Used paypal, shipped quickly.

http://www.reddit.com/r/snowboarding/comments/2lqrts/need_diecuts/

emmo

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When the price exceeds 0.1 https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=784390438300475 Grin

strix

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Quote from: strix on November 18, 2014, 09:55:13 PM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on November 18, 2014, 06:26:21 PM

Quote from: coins101 on November 18, 2014, 06:02:59 PM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on November 18, 2014, 12:47:45 PM

Quote from: UdjinM6 on November 18, 2014, 12:20:40 PM

Any idea what could be crowdfunded next? Roll Eyes

Mandatory use of p2pool. Darkcoin is not currently a decentralised currency, neither are most PoW coins.

Pin number or passphrase required before the wallet displays your balance and transaction history to any passing vagabond.

DRK CounterParty Roll Eyes

Sorry coins, knew there was something I was forgetting! Embarrassed

I have a question that I hope somebody can help with: what are the andvantages and disadvantages of CounterParty vs OpenTransaction? Is it essentially that one a coin and the other a protocol, or is there more to it than that. It looks to me like OT is already functioning in a manner that equivalent to OpenBazaar. Also interesting to me is the OT servers seem to have a passing resemblance to Master Nodes, and that Master Nodes could be modified to serve as OT servers as well. Am I off my rocker here? If so please let me know why, rather than just confirming a fact that I already suspect.

Peace to you all,

Strix

Bump.
Any ideas on this, or even explanitory links? I have read what I could on their respective sites, and am not sure I get it. My "radar" leads me to favor OT, but it is far from infallible.
(For what its worth, the same "radar" convinced me that I should concentrate on DRK rather than Cloak, back in June when I started lurking on both threads, and not really understanding the arguments. I should also say that the reasoned tone of some of the folks on this site was also a deciding factor, and that the blatant rudeness of some almost caused me to leave here as well. Recent efforts to raise the standard here are greatly appreciated, and I believe that it will lead to greater adoption, if it is maintained. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!)

thefrog

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on November 19, 2014, 09:44:24 AM

Quote from: salmion on November 19, 2014, 09:40:15 AM

How hard would it be to add the p2pool server software to wallets?

Not entirely trivial. I've thought about it. p2pool is in python and has a lot of deps, official wallet is c++, result would be unwieldy...

I think they are best kept separate for now, but a simple to install (1-click) prepackaged p2pool would be awesome.

Someone could even create a vm drop in image with all the stuff needed, so 'end user' needs only to open specific ports, or enable upnp maybe only.
Not too complicated, and could be run with for example free vmware player on any platform (although, I prefer virtualbox myself).
I would vote against including this in standard wallet.

strix

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on November 19, 2014, 09:31:16 AM

strix I think what thefrog meant by the 'have to age' thing was just that all mined DRK have to 'mature' for a bunch of blocks before they become spendable, it takes a couple of hours, it's no big deal. Centralised pools don't pay you immediately, they wait until you have some set amount (by which time your mined DRK have matured) and then send you it. No difference.

Thank you sir. That was what I was not understanding. Oblox, thank you also, but I was thinking in terms of a new function for MN's which I understand are not centralized. However given the correction of my error, by all means I think we should go full throttle on p2p enforcement.

Given the potential threat that DRK represents to TPTB, and the resources we must assume are at their disposal, a 51% attack through the theft of control of three or four mining pools is (IMHO) more likely than said pools taking such action independently, due to the effect this would have on their investment.

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