Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 3463. (Read 9723748 times)

Here is a comparison of pay out systems on used with mining pools. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

And here is a guide for setting up a p2pool node. https://bitbucket.org/dstorm/p2pool-drk.git

With 'to age' I meant achieve specific number of confirmations, so they can be used without paying any fees. You can use your mined coins straight away if you want, nevertheless, if you don't mind paying small fee.

Not entirely trivial. I've thought about it. p2pool is in python and has a lot of deps, official wallet is c++, result would be unwieldy...

I think they are best kept separate for now, but a simple to install (1-click) prepackaged p2pool would be awesome.

edit: adding some code to the official wallet to seek out the nearest p2pool node and use that instead of solo mining would be 100x easier.

How hard would it be to add the p2pool server software to wallets?

strix I think what thefrog meant by the 'have to age' thing was just that all mined DRK have to 'mature' for a bunch of blocks before they become spendable, it takes a couple of hours, it's no big deal. Centralised pools don't pay you immediately, they wait until you have some set amount (by which time your mined DRK have matured) and then send you it. No difference.

If you have an aggregating server, you have a centralized location.

The only one of the above reasons that seems like a reasonable deal breaker to me is "- payments in small amounts which have to 'age' to be used without furher (sic: further;-) fees." I assume by "age," increase in value over time is intended) Would it not be possible to have some sort of "aggregating server" (possibly a new masternode function/service) that received inputs only from p2pools, and which did NOT charge fees, and accumulated payouts to individuals until they reached some reasonable threshold  (1Drk?) and then forwarded them to the wallet originally specified? It seems that this would have the effect of removing the only logical objection to p2pool, and would present no risk to the privacy of those involved. For those few who might see an advantage in micro-payments, or doubt the security of the system, it could be made optional by some sort of flag in the originating wallet.

Am I missing something significant here? If something like this were implemented, I would have no problem if p2pool mining was enforced, and agree that such enforcement would be another huge advantage for the DRK economy.

edit: I'm not sure what this means, but I suspect the above proposal would also address this objection: "- PPLNS - takes time to build up 'full' payments, so suitable for 24x7 miners."
   

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9591304

next stop 0.0065sat???

if somebody has a simple p2ppool guide, i think it should be on top at https://darkcointalk.org/threads/pools-exchanges-etc.1456/ with some good reasons to use p2p

I have seen this in the past over min. two days.

Use bitfinex, very fast with btc and DRK, even with lower volume i never will use crypsy again.
I lost a lot with their bullshit wallets on VTC in the past.

artificially lower the difficulty.

I know, from a mathematical perspective its bullsh***
but from a psychological perspective it matters.

back in the btc-days i tended towards the pool, where i got the most ""s back.

http://drk.poolhash.org/graph.html do not work!!!

any ETA to fix it??

many thanks

okay i see, but any suggestions how it could be made more attractive to miners?
maybe it should be advertised in some way, is there a guide for drk p2ppool setup?

crapsty doesn't trust btc... my deposit showing 5 out of 4 confirmations 

Poolhash is Chapalin's site and has been down for weeks with what seems no chance of it coming back up. The DRK.MN link needs an l at the end of the .htm (.html).

From my personal experience it lasts for as long as it takes me to log a support ticket with them, receive a message back saying unknown eta, I wait a few hours and then the wallet comes back up just after I post on here complaining about it!

It's more about people being lazy to reconfigure their miners, than to enforce p2pool.

What is the main reason so few use p2pool ? Than is the question here.

p2pool
+ normally earning more than with a centralized pool
+ distributed, so you can use any p2pool node, with the lowest latency to your miners
+ no third party involved = lower risk of loosing mined coins
+ decentralized, no single point of failure
+ anyone can have it up and running in 15 minutes, following simple guide (yes, learn basic linux at least please)

- PPLNS - takes time to build up 'full' payments, so suitable for 24x7 miners
- no nice GUI and statistics and stuff to fiddle with, it just works
- not everyone understands that username = your DRK address
- payments in small amounts which have to 'age' to be used without furher fees

No DRK transfers on Crypsty... "Our wallet is currently offline while we perform system maintenance."

How long does this usually last for DRK? Thanks.

Edit: Franko988 says: the answer i got was "soon" today for sure.

btw. these links are down

Masternode Graph: http://drk.poolhash.org/mnode.html
Masternode Status 1 : http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html
Masternode Status 2 : https://drk.mn/masternodes.htm
Difficulty Chart: http://drk.poolhash.org/graph.html

yep i read that thats why im asking for evans comment.. maybe he didn't read it because he's busy

DarkTor or DarkGate are nice ideas too, evan mentioned it quite some time ago..
maybe everybody is busy with fixing and instantX for now