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So new guys, this is what you can expect from the "welcoming" Dash community. Any concerns you have can be written off as concern-trolling. Any improvements can be attacked as an attempt to destroy Dash as we know it. You motivations may and in my view likely WILL be questioned. Your loyalty will be challenged. You can and I think probably will be pilloried, harassed, attacked, questioned, and vilified for trying to HELP. Your ability to contribute or help will likely be dismissed. Your willingness to make substantive improvements will not be appreciated. If you do anything other than parrot the party line or cheer-lead and join in the bullying, you may face the same hostility I have faced and am facing. I am not alone. This has happened many times, and r/dashcensored contains only a partial sample of others with similar experiences.

You deserve to know this.

I'm not the one promoting Monero troll threads....

dnale0r if you reading this (i'm sure you are) : maybe next time use your brain and not start an uncensored Dash thread .. in.. your.. own .. name !!
Its gotta be the dumbest move ever.

Link : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dnaleor-89388

The reason for the continued existence or r/dashuncensored is not Monero trolls and haterz. It's you and your cult of crimethink-policing censors. Problem number ONE in dash is in my opinion Pay and Pray. Problem #2 is you. Have you no self-awareness at all? Can you not see the damage you are causing?

Monero is in my view an INFERIOR but interesting project, with much of the same goals as Dash. It's not the boogieman. There are Dash haterz there. There is stiff competition. There is even some dirty dealing and acting in bad faith, but Monero isn't half the threat to Dash that you are. You are acting like a bunch of tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nuts. This does not make Dash attractive to normal investors.

Sorry for blowing your troll cover billyboy, maybe you should start over with a new account ? Good to see you are over Tao and are redirecting your frustration towards my humble person. Personally i dont like the #2 spot, can we upgrade it to #1 pretty please ? Grin

Anyone willingly and knowingly promoting Monero's (dnale0r) r/dashuncensored thread is a troll in my eyes.
That person will loose all credibility.

How is it possible you can't see that you are making my point better than I could ever make it on my own? A claim's validity is independent of the person making it. It wouldn't matter if I was Satan himself because the reason is there along with the evidence that you are providing. You are ascribing motives you can't possibly know to people you have never met. There is a cult at the heart of Dash and as long as it is tolerated by the moderate majority, Dash will not become that which it is otherwise capable of being: Digital Cash for the whole world.

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on August 29, 2018, 06:08:11 PM

Quote from: qwizzie on August 29, 2018, 05:54:32 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on August 29, 2018, 05:52:45 PM

So new guys, this is what you can expect from the "welcoming" Dash community. Any concerns you have can be written off as concern-trolling. Any improvements can be attacked as an attempt to destroy Dash as we know it. You motivations may and in my view likely WILL be questioned. Your loyalty will be challenged. You can and I think probably will be pilloried, harassed, attacked, questioned, and vilified for trying to HELP. Your ability to contribute or help will likely be dismissed. Your willingness to make substantive improvements will not be appreciated. If you do anything other than parrot the party line or cheer-lead and join in the bullying, you may face the same hostility I have faced and am facing. I am not alone. This has happened many times, and r/dashcensored contains only a partial sample of others with similar experiences.

You deserve to know this.

I'm not the one promoting Monero troll threads....

dnale0r if you reading this (i'm sure you are) : maybe next time use your brain and not start an uncensored Dash thread .. in.. your.. own .. name !!
Its gotta be the dumbest move ever.

Link : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dnaleor-89388

The reason for the continued existence or r/dashuncensored is not Monero trolls and haterz. It's you and your cult of crimethink-policing censors. Problem number ONE in dash is in my opinion Pay and Pray. Problem #2 is you. Have you no self-awareness at all? Can you not see the damage you are causing?

Monero is in my view an INFERIOR but interesting project, with much of the same goals as Dash. It's not the boogieman. There are Dash haterz there. There is stiff competition. There is even some dirty dealing and acting in bad faith, but Monero isn't half the threat to Dash that you are. You are acting like a bunch of tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nuts. This does not make Dash attractive to normal investors.

Sorry for blowing your troll cover billyboy, maybe you should start over with a new account ? Good to see you are over Tao and are redirecting your frustration towards my humble person. Personally i dont like the #2 spot, can we upgrade it to #1 pretty please ? Grin

Anyone willingly and knowingly promoting Monero's (dnale0r) r/dashuncensored thread is a troll in my eyes.
That person will loose all credibility.

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Quote from: qwizzie on August 29, 2018, 05:54:32 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on August 29, 2018, 05:52:45 PM

So new guys, this is what you can expect from the "welcoming" Dash community. Any concerns you have can be written off as concern-trolling. Any improvements can be attacked as an attempt to destroy Dash as we know it. You motivations may and in my view likely WILL be questioned. Your loyalty will be challenged. You can and I think probably will be pilloried, harassed, attacked, questioned, and vilified for trying to HELP. Your ability to contribute or help will likely be dismissed. Your willingness to make substantive improvements will not be appreciated. If you do anything other than parrot the party line or cheer-lead and join in the bullying, you may face the same hostility I have faced and am facing. I am not alone. This has happened many times, and r/dashcensored contains only a partial sample of others with similar experiences.

You deserve to know this.

I'm not the one promoting Monero troll threads....

The reason for the continued existence or r/dashuncensored is not Monero trolls and haterz. It's you and your cult of crimethink-policing censors. Problem number ONE in dash is in my opinion Pay and Pray. Problem #2 is you. Have you no self-awareness at all? Can you not see the damage you are causing?

Monero is in my view an INFERIOR but interesting project, with many of the same goals as Dash. It's not the boogieman. There are Dash haterz there. There is stiff competition. There is even some dirty dealing and acting in bad faith, but Monero isn't half the threat to Dash that you are. You are acting like a bunch of tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nuts. This does not make Dash attractive to normal investors.

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on August 29, 2018, 05:52:45 PM

So new guys, this is what you can expect from the "welcoming" Dash community. Any concerns you have can be written off as concern-trolling. Any improvements can be attacked as an attempt to destroy Dash as we know it. You motivations may and in my view likely WILL be questioned. Your loyalty will be challenged. You can and I think probably will be pilloried, harassed, attacked, questioned, and vilified for trying to HELP. Your ability to contribute or help will likely be dismissed. Your willingness to make substantive improvements will not be appreciated. If you do anything other than parrot the party line or cheer-lead and join in the bullying, you may face the same hostility I have faced and am facing. I am not alone. This has happened many times, and r/dashcensored contains only a partial sample of others with similar experiences.

You deserve to know this.

I'm not the one promoting Monero troll threads....

dnale0r if you reading this (i'm sure you are) : maybe next time use your brain and not start an uncensored Dash thread .. in.. your.. own .. name !!
Its gotta be the dumbest move ever.

Link : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dnaleor-89388

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So new guys, this is what you can expect from the "welcoming" Dash community. Any concerns you have can be written off as concern-trolling. Any improvements can be attacked as an attempt to destroy Dash as we know it. You motivations may and in my view likely WILL be questioned. Your loyalty will be challenged. You can and I think probably will be pilloried, harassed, attacked, questioned, and vilified for trying to HELP. Your ability to contribute or help will likely be dismissed. Your willingness to make substantive improvements will not be appreciated. If you do anything other than parrot the party line or cheer-lead and join in the bullying, you may face the same hostility I have faced and am facing. I am not alone. This has happened many times, and r/dashcensored contains only a partial sample of others with similar experiences.

You deserve to know this.

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on August 29, 2018, 05:36:26 PM

Quote from: qwizzie on August 29, 2018, 05:20:36 PM

I exspect investors not pull out of Dash if their polling proposal fails, but you stated the exact opposite which makes me question
your motives right now.

Of course you promoting a Monero created Reddit uncensored Dash thread, does not exactly help in that perception.

Did you even read what I wrote that you quoted?

"My plan? if this passes, continue to make small experiments and to scale up when they work and to support anyone else working to fix this problem. If this or other or better decision proposals DON'T pass, then the plan is to reduce my exposure to Dash, as in start selling my MNO service rewards and stop recommending it so enthusiastically to others and eventually if nothing is done look for a better project."

This is a transparent attempt to spin me, a masternode owner and person who has spent my own time and money in attempting to bring awareness to an important issue, as a hater. You are free to disagree with my suggested improvements and to propose your own if you like, but this is exactly the sort of badthink-policing that drives away investors.

Pls stop promoting Monero created troll threads like the one from dnale0r, a well knowm member of the Monero community.
Also known to troll this Dash forum.

If you keep doing it anyways, then i have no choice then indeed consider you a troll.

I dont care about the dissident reddit thread you created, you can promote that all you want, but the Monero troll thread
should not be promoted in here. Period.

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Quote from: qwizzie on August 29, 2018, 05:20:36 PM

I exspect investors not pull out of Dash if their polling proposal fails, but you stated the exact opposite which makes me question
your motives right now.

Of course you promoting a Monero created Reddit uncensored Dash thread, does not exactly help in that perception.

Did you even read what I wrote that you quoted?

"My plan? if this passes, continue to make small experiments and to scale up when they work and to support anyone else working to fix this problem. If this or other or better decision proposals DON'T pass, then the plan is to reduce my exposure to Dash, as in start selling my MNO service rewards and stop recommending it so enthusiastically to others and eventually if nothing is done look for a better project."

This is a transparent attempt to spin me, a masternode owner and person who has spent my own time and money in attempting to bring awareness to an important issue, as a hater. You are free to disagree with my suggested improvements and to propose your own if you like, but this is exactly the sort of badthink-policing that drives away investors.

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on August 29, 2018, 05:15:54 PM

Quote from: qwizzie on August 29, 2018, 05:05:46 PM

By all means billyboy, promote that Monero "uncensored" Dash thread all you want in here,
it will just end up dead anyways because people will see right through it.

So now your polling proposal has pretty much failed, i assume you will act on your intention
to look for another project ? It would certainly explain a few things..

https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Commitment-to-Improve-Funding-Model
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My plan? if this passes, continue to make small experiments and to scale up when they work and to support anyone else working to fix this problem. If this or other or better decision proposals DON'T pass, then the plan is to reduce my exposure to Dash, as in start selling my MNO service rewards and stop recommending it so enthusiastically to others and eventually if nothing is done look for a better project."

I'm just wondering how committed you really are to Dash at this point.

the prop https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Commitment-to-Improve-Funding-Model is winning 192/133 as of this writing. My commitment to Dash is NOT absolute, and I fail to see why it should be absolute unless one is an uncritical fundamentalist maximalist permabull cultist. I will stay with Dash as long as it is the best investment in the cryptosphere I can find and not longer. Do you expect investors to do otherwise? What in your experience leads you to believe that will happen?

Maybe its better to visualize it :

I exspect investors not to pull out of Dash if their polling proposal fails, but you stated the exact opposite which makes me question
your motives right now.

Of course you promoting a Monero created Reddit uncensored Dash thread, does not exactly help with that perception.
(Its not very smart of dnale0r to create that thread with his own name, as he is rather known as a Monero member. But then again Monero trolls in general are not very smart )

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Quote from: qwizzie on August 29, 2018, 05:05:46 PM

By all means billyboy, promote that Monero "uncensored" Dash thread all you want in here,
it will just end up dead anyways because people will see right through it.

So now your polling proposal has pretty much failed, i assume you will act on your intention
to look for another project ? It would certainly explain a few things..

https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Commitment-to-Improve-Funding-Model
See comments

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My plan? if this passes, continue to make small experiments and to scale up when they work and to support anyone else working to fix this problem. If this or other or better decision proposals DON'T pass, then the plan is to reduce my exposure to Dash, as in start selling my MNO service rewards and stop recommending it so enthusiastically to others and eventually if nothing is done look for a better project."

I'm just wondering how committed you really are to Dash at this point.

the prop https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Commitment-to-Improve-Funding-Model is winning 192/133 as of this writing. My commitment to Dash is NOT absolute, and I fail to see why it should be absolute unless one is an uncritical fundamentalist maximalist permabull cultist. I will stay with Dash as long as it is the best investment in the cryptosphere I can find and not longer. Do you expect investors to do otherwise? What in your experience leads you to believe that will happen?

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By all means billyboy, promote that Monero "uncensored" Dash thread all you want in here,
it will just end up dead anyways because people will see right through it.

So now your polling proposal has pretty much failed, i assume you will act on your intention
to look for another project ? It would certainly explain a few things..

https://www.dashcentral.org/p/Commitment-to-Improve-Funding-Model
See comments

Quote

My plan? if this passes, continue to make small experiments and to scale up when they work and to support anyone else working to fix this problem. If this or other or better decision proposals DON'T pass, then the plan is to reduce my exposure to Dash, as in start selling my MNO service rewards and stop recommending it so enthusiastically to others and eventually if nothing is done look for a better project."

I'm just wondering how committed you really are to Dash at this point.

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Quote from: qwizzie on August 29, 2018, 04:27:18 PM

Wow, billy just went full troll. So much for the pretend...
Trolls : they can't live with Dash and they can't live without Dash

There must not be much traffic on that uncensored reddit thread that Monero trolls created, that even billy boy is actively promoting it.
Don't you trolls have a Dash Classic thread to promote somewhere also? Oh wait, you guys did renew that site right?

Oh dear, its seems rather dead : https://www.dashclassic.net/
only thing left is this R.I.P thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-xdc-dash-classic-fair-relaunch-no-instamine-no-foundation-x11-1335693

Do you not have faith that new Dashers can discern trolling from legit criticism? There is a name for news that omits anything negative, even if that news is relevant and important. That name is "propaganda".

Yes, there is trolling on r/dashuncensored. Yes there is criticism for which there is legitimate counterarguments, but r/dashpay and the other moderated forums are doing a DISSERVICE to Dash users by deleting, censoring and banning because you don't agree with something. In a free society, bad speech is fought with good speech, not censorship.

If you wanna be an uncritical fanboi, that's your right. If you wanna be a glaze-eyed cultist who polices "badthink", then I am not going to let that go without comment. Dash is a great project with amazing technology, but all projects have problems. All projects have areas that need improvement and Dash is no different. When your advocacy interferes with needed improvements, I have an issue with that. New dashers deserve the whole truth, not just the approved sales pitch.

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Quote from: XtraRolePlayer on August 29, 2018, 03:16:49 PM

Wow! I am really amazed seeing this thread on the top while it is already a 4-year-old thread (6700 pages) since January 2014. This really interests me. Well, I guess I have to know what makes this thread lasts that long and attracts more supporters. I guess it is already an existing project. Can you help me find if there is an available Whitepaper so I can start reading first the fundamentals of this project? Thanks in advance guys!

sure

https://docs.dash.org/en/latest/
https://docs.dash.org/en/latest/introduction/about.html#whitepaper

https://www.dash.org
https://www.dash.org/forum

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Wow, billy just went full troll. So much for the pretend...
Trolls : they can't live with Dash and they can't live without Dash

There must not be much traffic on that uncensored reddit thread that Monero trolls created, that even billy boy is actively promoting it.
Don't you trolls have a Dash Classic thread to promote somewhere also? Oh wait, you guys did renew that site right?

Oh dear, its seems rather dead : https://www.dashclassic.net/
only thing left is this R.I.P thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-xdc-dash-classic-fair-relaunch-no-instamine-no-foundation-x11-1335693

Reminds me of the "Uncensored" Dash Price and Trade Discussion thread they created :

My thread : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dash-dash-price-and-trade-discussion-thread-1233119
Monero's "Uncensored" thread by Icey : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dash-dash-price-and-trade-discussion-thread-unmoderated-1736249

All Monero's "uncensored" threads of Dash seem to end up dead, i wonder why Roll Eyes

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Quote from: XtraRolePlayer on August 29, 2018, 03:16:49 PM

Wow! I am really amazed seeing this thread on the top while it is already a 4-year-old thread (6700 pages) since January 2014. This really interests me. Well, I guess I have to know what makes this thread lasts that long and attracts more supporters. I guess it is already an existing project. Can you help me find if there is an available Whitepaper so I can start reading first the fundamentals of this project? Thanks in advance guys!

Big plus. The same is also really impressed me when the first time i saw this thread ) Dash is a true community coin.

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Quote from: XtraRolePlayer on August 29, 2018, 03:16:49 PM

Wow! I am really amazed seeing this thread on the top while it is already a 4-year-old thread (6700 pages) since January 2014. This really interests me. Well, I guess I have to know what makes this thread lasts that long and attracts more supporters. I guess it is already an existing project. Can you help me find if there is an available Whitepaper so I can start reading first the fundamentals of this project? Thanks in advance guys!

sure

https://docs.dash.org/en/latest/
https://docs.dash.org/en/latest/introduction/about.html#whitepaper

https://www.dash.org
https://www.dash.org/forum

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Wow! I am really amazed seeing this thread on the top while it is already a 4-year-old thread (6700 pages) since January 2014. This really interests me. Well, I guess I have to know what makes this thread lasts that long and attracts more supporters. I guess it is already an existing project. Can you help me find if there is an available Whitepaper so I can start reading first the fundamentals of this project? Thanks in advance guys!

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Quote from: billyjoeallen on August 29, 2018, 01:58:02 PM

and if Antpool doesn't upgrade to 12.3, what good is any DIP? How are upgrades even useful if people don't upgrade? Why does it take the largest most profitable mining company in the world months to upgrade when I could do it in two days as a non-tech?

You are describing the difference between the update of masternodes versus the update of mining pools,
masternodes tend to upgrade much faster then mining pools. That has been the case with every update
involving a protocol change.

The current update of miners is at 77.3% and is growing slowly :

https://www.dashninja.pl/blocks.html
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/#!network

With our previous protocol update from v11 to v12 the same thing happened (miners slow at updating, masternodes updated fast) but after awhile pretty much all the mining pools switched to latest update and the network could safely transition.

I dont see a difference with our previous update, our current update and our next update, just a whole lot of impatient anxiety from new users like you who are unfamiliar with Dash previous updates and the time it generally takes (specially when there is a protocol change involved).

Also remember Antpool is selling Dash ASIC miners, they dont have an incentive to sabotage Dash by not implementing v12.3

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and if Antpool doesn't upgrade to 12.3, what good is any DIP? How are upgrades even useful if people don't upgrade? Why does it take the largest most profitable mining company in the world months to upgrade when I could do it in two days as a non-tech?

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Dash DIP 5 Furthers Dash Along the Evolution RoadMap

Dash recently released the GitHub repository for DIP-5, which offers multiple features in relation to the creation of usernames on the Dash network and thus increases the overall usability of Dash and furthers the Evolution RoadMap.

Dash Force News talked with Joshua, a Dash Core Group UX/UI Engineer, who called DIP-5 “an exciting update with a very important building block for Evolution”, about its overall implication for the Dash network.

Read more - https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-dip-5-furthers-dash-along-the-evolution-roadmap/

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Quote from: afbitcoins on August 29, 2018, 05:39:47 AM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on August 28, 2018, 04:39:28 PM

Hey, listen. I agree that these Krip phones look promising, as does the market apparently, but it doesn't answer my question. What in our overburdened treasury are we going to give up in order to get them?

So this partnership is funded from the treasury? Have you got a link to the proposal for that for the sake of interest? Thanks

this might actually be a phone available to customers now.

http://www.kriptomobile.com/

https://mobile.twitter.com/KriptoMobile

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