Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 3693. (Read 9723748 times)

shojayxt I had a good day today and I`ve unignored you ...... for 15sec.

We don`t need to find out what's going on with nicehash!  You didn't get your payment!?


Nicehash does not pay for anybody, it is a proxy only!

Only enforcment will put them down with orphans.

Don`t ask again about them.

Be happy that Camo didin`t respond you at your question

You need to find out what's going on with nicehash!  I didn't get my payment!     What do I do?  How can I get it?  Help me please!  I feel used.



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+1

I've just updated Coinotron's wallet to v0.10.15.16.
Best regards,
Coinotron

Transfer finally went through.
 

If the transaction is stuck this guide may help...

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/frozen-transactions-why-it-happens-and-how-to-fix-it.1649/

Getting some chunky MN payments now!!! Nice 

MikeMike show the tx.

It should only take a few minutes.

Twitter campagne works
Hope wafflepool and ltc1btc will responde too...

That was a good one... Well done 

TradeMyBit have updated finally

26 minutes ago158554trademybitcom diff: 1499.39 gen block: 10 fee to MN 2.5 Xht8wfjcdvQA1Eimn8D44kwVeyfTyCQQvFOnyx (0.10.15.13+)
2 hours ago158514trademybitcom 1674.29 9.0375 2.25938 XbZP5tQA8KPct8iWFuCmXgX68hFJMMbUveOnyx (0.10.15.13+)
2 hours ago158505trademybitcom 1739.77 8.002 2.0005 XiYd88F159s4J6KmSnuhavCKQDsWMceDktOnyx (0.10.15.13+)

Someone needs to decide what the best path forward is. I'm happy for that to be Evan, since it can't be me.   

Rule by committee is always a disaster.

Okay, thanks for the clarification. Also thanks for pointing out the code files.
So I was wrong.
So it is centralized but we are going to get rid of it once darkcoin has matured into ecash.

I can live with that. (for now)

EDIT: Shouldn't it nonetheless be possible to implement an improved version of spork system without the need for centralization?

From the first post:

Multi-Phased Fork Implementation (aka the “Spork”)
In response to unforeseen issues with the rollout of RC3, the Darkcoin development team created a mechanism by which updated code is released to the network, but not immediately made active (or “enforced”).  Communication is sent out to users informing them of the change and the need for them to update their clients.  Those who update their clients run the new code, but in the event of errors occurring with that new code, the client’s blocks are not rejected by the network and unintended forks are avoided. Data about the error can then be collected and forwarded to the development team.
Once the development team is satisfied with the new code’s stability in the mainnet environment - and once acceptable network consensus is attained - enforcement of the updated code can be activated remotely.  Should problems arise, the code can be deactivated in the same manner, without the need for a network-wide rollback or client update.
This innovation allows for far smoother transitions than in the traditional hard fork paradigm, as well as the collection of test data in the live network environment.
We set out with the intention of calling this method of updating the “Soft Fork”, but the Darkcoin community quickly dubbed it the “Spork” and the name seems to have stuck.

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I control the key that turns the spork on and off, and it allows me to gather information on mainnet for a period of time before activating the code. If I see something is wrong with the spork, or have some other network issue I can turn it off at any time. I.e, A spork and a soft and hard fork at the same time. So the code immediately starts doing the soft-fork actions, but it will only reject blocks when enforcement is activated.

https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/blob/master/src/checkpointsync.cpp#L514
https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/blob/master/src/main.h#L1673

It works by extending the checkpointing system, which I also have control over, so that it tells the network if the current spork is enforced or not. Yes, it's centralized, but it allows hard fork after hard fork without the risk of destroying the entire network or issuing emergency rollbacks of patches. But we don't need this forever, once we have all of the tools we need for the perfect eCash, we can get rid of checkpointing and sporking. For now though, it's allowing us to be very nimble.

okay, i see yr point now .. if those conditions are indeed hardcoded in the Onyx update then yr right, it would automatically do a fork (Enforcement) when those conditions were met.
Untill now i regarded those conditions not hardcoded but more as something Evan put out there for himself, once those conditions were reached he would remotely activate the enforcement himself.
Lets wait and see if this gets a bit clearer.
 

Yes, in this post it says:


All those conditions mentioned (blocknumber, percentage of network, etc..) are hardcoded into the spork and will be checked constantly and trigger the hardfork automatically,
there is no need for evan to "push a button" or anything like that.

There could have been the off chance that not enough people would have updated by then, but then the spork would have simply not triggered. It would have remained inactive.
I mean that's the reason we call it spork right? Soft fork. Either it forks when the conditions are met, or NOT AT ALL. (or else it would just be a hardfork with delay, but that's not what a spork is.)

There is no "enforcement" other than the voluntary compliance of a large enough number of participants.
(voluntary compliance = updating to the correct version in the right time)

I don't like how the word enforcement is used to describe "voluntary compliance of a large enough number of participants", that's where my confusion comes from.
It's rhetorically wrong to describe it like that. People are not forced to do anything, either they voluntary help the situation so that the spork conditions are met, or else the new version will simply not be implemented.

It's a rhetorical problem, but the mathematics behind the spork are sound!

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Right?

yes there is a need.. if he doesnt do anything that part in the Onyx update (MN payments getting raised to 25 %) will always stay in ''off'' condition (so MN payments will stay at 20%).
In order to have the part in ''on'' condition (MN payments 25%) it needs to be activated by Evan.

Pls re-read following post :

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/v10-15-onyx-release.2683/

ATTENTION: POOL OPERATORS

This update includes a fork, all daemons and stratum deployments must update their code to pay the correct masternodes and correct reward amounts.

Deployment Schedule:

Immediately: Enforcement will be turned off, allowing for pools to update their software without risk of orphaned blocks

Oct 23, 2014: Rewards will step up to 25%. Darkcoin users are encouraged to contact pools that have not updated and politely ask them to update.

qwizzie : ******** this is the enforcement part (activation of MN payments to 25%) **********

You said: "Appearently he will fire a signal at the darkcoin software"

But I think this is the reason why I keep getting confused, because if I understand it correctly he doesn't trigger anything by hand, there is no need to.

For the spork to work, there must be defined a clear mathematical formula for when it is supposed to go hardfork.

The variables, parameters and conditionals of this formula must be something that every masternode/wallet can calculate by itself,
without the need for "some mastermind behind the curtains" to trigger anything.

its an update that has a certain part in ''off'' condition (MN payments 25%) then after a certain time/ when enough pools have updated that certain part will be remotely switched ''on'' by the darkcointeam (or in this case Evan),
if something goes wrong with that specific part (lets say there is a bug in it or something) he can then also again switch it in ''off'' condition.

This will mean that users / pools only need to update once. How that remote switching on / off exactly works in technical terms i dont know.  Appearently he will fire a signal at the darkcoin software that puts the specific part thats for now in ''off'' condition in a ''on'' condition.

  

We sent a decent amount of DRK and it's been a few hours.
Is this lag common for larger transactions?