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legendary
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its just the hardfork for MN payments that has a delayed activation for either waiting for a certain pools compliance % or waiting for a certain time period, if one of those two conditions is met the
hardfork will be activated. This methode is also known as the spork update methode. The activation will be issued by Evan and then the hardfork will be active, forcing the mining pools to be on the right
darkcoin version or to have their mining efforts (on the wrong darkcoin version) rejected by the network.

We are using the spork methode for some time now, i dont understand why yr so bothered with it all of a sudden.. it gives the pools and the users some time to prepare and its more gracious then
forcing a hardfork down everyone's throat on short notice.  The update methode is perhaps in a small number of hands (centralisation) but thats with all coins, even Bitcoin.
The lead developer is both in charge and has the responsibility over the coin he is developing, some times the lead developer operates alone.. sometimes he forms a team .. but it will still be a few experienced
people developing the code, or in this case flipping the switch.

My assumption was always that it is part of all the users to update to the new version, and that's it.
Everything else (grace period, automatically going hardfork, etc.) is in the code itself.

So I think I just get confused by all those gifs and all those phrasings like "it's in evans hands" and "the activation will be issued by evan" etc...

He doesn't trigger anything at all.

It's just that he creates a new version and it's the people who have to update and then the spork code in the new version waits for a period / formula before going hardfork.
Evan triggers nothing, he just creates new versions and people have to follow.

So again, I think everything is clear if explained like that, it's just that how people depict it or make it sound like is confusing sometimes, especially to newcomers.
I need a coffee.
Case closed.
legendary
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Flip Flip .... Flip it On Flip it On ...>>
Enforcement is right around the corner. Messages are now propagating perfectly and we've updated enough to turn it on from that perspective. I've sent an email out to 4 bigger pools that need to upgrade their stratum, then I'll flip the switch.




So is enforcement something that Evan can enable himself at anytime or is it by an automatic trigger of pool compliance?

I believe it is all in Evans hands ! ...>

That sounds scary.

New people come here, read stuff like this and see those pics/gifs and assume that this is the coin that evan has central control over.

Can someone (preferrably evan himself) shed some light on how the enforcement mechanism actually works?
Or is this something that is deliberately kept in darkness?
Does evan own a private key to some embedded mechanism he can trigger?

Really???

And we just go along with this, and make funny gifs of triggering buttons and flipping switches?

Really???

people have asked me about this before and I still cant give them a satisfying answer because I don't understand how enforcement works... so, some clarification would be nice.



its just the hardfork for MN payments that has a delayed activation for either waiting for a certain pools compliance % or waiting for a certain time period, if one of those two conditions is met the
hardfork will be activated. This methode is also known as the spork update methode. The activation will be issued by Evan and then the hardfork will be active, forcing the mining pools to be on the right
darkcoin version or to have their mining efforts (on the wrong darkcoin version) rejected by the network.

We are using the spork methode for some time now, i dont understand why yr so bothered with it all of a sudden.. it gives the pools and the users some time to prepare and its more gracious then
forcing a hardfork down everyone's throat on short notice.  The update methode is perhaps in a small number of hands (centralisation) but thats with all coins, even Bitcoin.
The lead developer is both in charge and has the responsibility over the coin he is developing, some times the lead developer operates alone.. sometimes he forms a team .. but it will still be a few experienced
people developing and updating the code, or in this case flipping the switch Smiley
 

  
legendary
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Flip Flip .... Flip it On Flip it On ...>>
Enforcement is right around the corner. Messages are now propagating perfectly and we've updated enough to turn it on from that perspective. I've sent an email out to 4 bigger pools that need to upgrade their stratum, then I'll flip the switch.




So is enforcement something that Evan can enable himself at anytime or is it by an automatic trigger of pool compliance?

I believe it is all in Evans hands ! ...>

That sounds scary. I thought it is some mathematics that automatically triggers something when a certain state has been reached. Is that not the case?

New people come here, read stuff like this and see those pics/gifs and assume that this is the coin that evan has central control over.  Huh

Can someone (preferrably evan himself) shed some light on how the enforcement mechanism actually works? (Please point out the class file and the code)
Or is this something that is deliberately kept in darkness?

Does evan own a private key to some embedded mechanism he can trigger?

Really???

And we just go along with this, and make funny gifs of triggering buttons and flipping switches?

Really???

people have asked me about this before and I still cant give them a satisfying answer because I don't understand how enforcement works... so, some clarification would be nice.
sr. member
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www.dashpay.io
Masternodes can also be people's slice of crypto history...

It's not all about the ROI and price fluctuations in some instances.
sr. member
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Anyone who gonna donate their extra masternodes? I love to have one.. Smiley I'm gonna have it someday.. soon Wink
legendary
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Camosoul rants about Masternode guides:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFBp_FUHJlg

 Grin

Saw this yesterday at the airport when my flight got delayed
 Had my headphones on and burst out laughing so much I scared an old lady half to death  Grin

 
Rux
legendary
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http://prntscr.com/4zitsa

how the fck i lose 0.3 DRK when i started anonimization?
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legendary
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legendary
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can I just run new (10.15.16) wallet over old ( 10.15.13) ? Winblows?


use 10.15.16
can I just run new (10.15.16) wallet over old ( 10.15.13) ? Winblows?


Yes

TKS! Last time i corrupted wallet ( saved by Propulsion ). So now easy way...:-)

ALWAYS back up your wallet.  With the old wallet open, go to Files => Backup Wallet then save it somewhere where you can find it Smiley  Never make a copy of your wallet.dat file while the wallet is open though!

And as usual, I repeat everything everyone else said because I couldn't stop the mother hen inside of me from jumping out!  LOL
hero member
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Enforcement is right around the corner. Messages are now propagating perfectly and we've updated enough to turn it on from that perspective. I've sent an email out to 4 bigger pools that need to upgrade their stratum, then I'll flip the switch.


LOL Ren and Stimpy. 'Space Madness' is required viewing.
"Don't touch it! It's the history eraser button, you FOOL!"
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No use of backup when you send funds to new wallet which is corrupted!

That's why I ALWAYS make a backup of the NEW wallet beforehand, check that backup and only send the funds when everything is correct.

And, checking includes trying out the password!

legendary
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Flip Flip .... Flip it On Flip it On ...>>


So is enforcement something that Evan can enable himself at anytime or is it by an automatic trigger of pool compliance?

I believe it is all in Evans hands ! ...>
hero member
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toggle switch picture

Flip Flip .... Flip it On Flip it On ...>>


So is enforcement something that Evan can enable himself at anytime or is it by an automatic trigger of pool compliance?
legendary
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legendary
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The Club is running 10.15.16 now and hashing away
legendary
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can I just run new (10.15.16) wallet over old ( 10.15.13) ? Winblows?


use 10.15.16
can I just run new (10.15.16) wallet over old ( 10.15.13) ? Winblows?


Yes

TKS! Last time i corrupted wallet ( saved by Propulsion ). So now easy way...:-)
ALWAYS. MAKE. BACKUPS. especially before trying new versions Grin

No use of backup when you send funds to new wallet which is corrupted!
I never liked that "send funds to your new wallet" method - dumpprivkey/importprivkey is the only way that is 100% safe Wink
legendary
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can I just run new (10.15.16) wallet over old ( 10.15.13) ? Winblows?


use 10.15.16
can I just run new (10.15.16) wallet over old ( 10.15.13) ? Winblows?


Yes

TKS! Last time i corrupted wallet ( saved by Propulsion ). So now easy way...:-)
ALWAYS. MAKE. BACKUPS. especially before trying new versions Grin

No use of backup when you send funds to new wallet which is corrupted!
legendary
Activity: 1318
Merit: 1040
can I just run new (10.15.16) wallet over old ( 10.15.13) ? Winblows?


use 10.15.16
can I just run new (10.15.16) wallet over old ( 10.15.13) ? Winblows?


Yes

TKS! Last time i corrupted wallet ( saved by Propulsion ). So now easy way...:-)
ALWAYS. MAKE. BACKUPS. especially before trying new versions Grin
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