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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 4144. (Read 9723787 times)

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Darknet is not a feature we need for Darkcoin,developers are doing the wrong thing,they should work more on the coin instead of creating a better Tor.

They are not doing the "wrong" thing, they are working on the coin. Eduffield just threw the idea of "darktor" out there to get feedback from others if the idea is feasible or not. Afaik they are not doing anything related to that yet.
You need to realize this part of my post:

"They should brand Darkcoin as a private coin like paying in cash,bitcoin in 2014 is moving away out of this negative things and then the developers are putting Darkcoin in it's place,not good.I dont want my Darkcoins to get a bad name but it will,the big public will only speak of the coin criminals use,how is that going to help us?
Criminals use the coin for doing criminal transactions you put yourself at risk when owning a masternode or even use the coin,i dont want the NSA or any goverment take this coin down or investor dont invest because they get stained with the stamp CRIMINAL on it."

That is the part i am very afraid of happening when they mix the coin with a private internet that will be used by criminals,criminals have lots of cash but i dont want my masternode being watched or even get closed because of this service you profide for criminals,this is not why i bought DRK. Undecided

This is the attitude they want everyone to have, they will use the media to drown Darkcoin in a sea of negativity...

I hope the attorney that Evan invited to the Darkcoin foundation is getting match fit, there is a high chance he's going to be extremely famous soon.

I'm predicting a legal case that goes to the very roots of American Law and receives a lot of media attention, which will set a precedence for all future crypto.
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Darknet is not a feature we need for Darkcoin,developers are doing the wrong thing,they should work more on the coin instead of creating a better Tor.

They are not doing the "wrong" thing, they are working on the coin. Eduffield just threw the idea of "darktor" out there to get feedback from others if the idea is feasible or not. Afaik they are not doing anything related to that yet.
You need to realize this part of my post:

"They should brand Darkcoin as a private coin like paying in cash,bitcoin in 2014 is moving away out of this negative things and then the developers are putting Darkcoin in it's place,not good.I dont want my Darkcoins to get a bad name but it will,the big public will only speak of the coin criminals use,how is that going to help us?
Criminals use the coin for doing criminal transactions you put yourself at risk when owning a masternode or even use the coin,i dont want the NSA or any goverment take this coin down or investor dont invest because they get stained with the stamp CRIMINAL on it."

That is the part i am very afraid of happening when they mix the coin with a private internet that will be used by criminals,criminals have lots of cash but i dont want my masternode being watched or even get closed because of this service you profide for criminals,this is not why i bought DRK. Undecided
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You should post more often AlexGR...

As the weather becomes more autumnish and then winterish over here, that'll probably be the case...

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They are not doing the "wrong" thing, they are working on the coin.

+There is nothing inherently incompatible between an IP obfuscation tool and DRK as an anonymous currency (which requires an IP obfuscator anyway - and the market solutions right now are not entirely adequate).
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Hey! I've come across a few ardent Monero supporters the other day and we've gotten in this argument about whose technology for anonymous transactions is more advanced, DRK or XMR. What arguments do we have to shut them up?  

The obfuscating technology of ring signatures is superior in terms of anonymity compared to coinjoin-based solution. However it is impractical and doesn't scale, therefore rendering the cryptonote-based coins as something like proof-of-concept, rather than usable coins that can experience wide adoption.

Also note that superiority of ring-signatures does not automatically translate to something like NSA-proof level of anonymity. Both DRK and Cryptonote can be practically anonymous for any third private party that watches the transactions on the blockchain but both can be vulnerable to NSA-tracking. If you are an individual using either DRK or Monero for example, coupled with good IP obfuscation and a high-level mixing, nobody will find your transaction. The NSA though, might.

This means that on a practical level, the technical superiority of ring signatures cannot translate into a market advantage, as both coins are anonymous as far as third-private-parties are concerned, but they both are vulnerable to NSA-level resources (where monitoring networks and even hardware devices is a reality).

If DRKTor -or whatever it's named- is a good enough alternative compared to I2P or Tor, then DRK might become the only NSA-proof anonymous coin, as it will have covered the IP obfuscation in a sufficient manner that I2P or Tor hasn't. The fact that the IP obfuscation nodes cannot be sockpuppeted without significant cost, is quite a plus. However it will require a much greater degree of decentralization where Masternodes are installed outside "big" data centers known to cooperate with government agencies.

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You should post more often AlexGR...
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Darknet is not a feature we need for Darkcoin,developers are doing the wrong thing,they should work more on the coin instead of creating a better Tor.

They are not doing the "wrong" thing, they are working on the coin. Eduffield just threw the idea of "darktor" out there to get feedback from others if the idea is feasible or not. Afaik they are not doing anything related to that yet.
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'Darksend' is not truly pitch black because it relies on mere obfuscation, which is trivial to unwind for fairly sophisticated adversaries.

rofl trivial rofl

You don't even know how it works.
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At least our trolls are hero members.

Monero on a downtrend again, their constant spamming of new monero threads isn't helping they needed to do something,
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Oh my MN....

2014-09-02 01:34:04 Error: Error: Disk space is low!


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-rw------- 1 nm01 nm01 663M Sep  2 01:34 debug.log

cat /dev/null > debug.log


Code:
2014-09-02 01:33:59 send last getblocks for 00000000000ea08c014aac26eb552f66b28ce10960e71577a712b7e52495dec7 peer=5369
2014-09-02 01:34:04 received block 000000000013188458e7dfed6ffdd3eab39b936c237d32c2522031164ab1053a peer=266
2014-09-02 01:34:04 *** Error: Disk space is low!
2014-09-02 01:34:04 Error: Error: Disk space is low!
2014-09-02 01:34:04 ERROR: AcceptBlock() : AddToBlockIndex failed
2014-09-02 01:34:04 ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED
2014-09-02 01:34:04 opencon thread interrupt
2014-09-02 01:34:04 dumpaddr thread stop
2014-09-02 01:34:04 Shutdown : In progress...
2014-09-02 01:34:04 addcon thread interrupt
2014-09-02 01:34:04 net thread interrupt
2014-09-02 01:34:04 Flush(false)
2014-09-02 01:34:04 wallet.dat refcount=0
2014-09-02 01:34:04 wallet.dat checkpoint
2014-09-02 01:34:04 wallet.dat detach
2014-09-02 01:34:04 wallet.dat closed
2014-09-02 01:34:04 DBFlush(false) ended              37ms
2014-09-02 01:34:04 StopNode()
2014-09-02 01:34:04 msghand thread interrupt
2014-09-02 01:34:04 Flushed 10805 addresses to peers.dat  77ms
2014-09-02 01:34:05 Committing 833 changed transactions to coin database...
2014-09-02 01:34:05 Flush(true)
2014-09-02 01:34:05 wallet.dat refcount=0
2014-09-02 01:34:05 wallet.dat checkpoint
2014-09-02 01:34:05 wallet.dat detach
2014-09-02 01:34:05 wallet.dat closed
2014-09-02 01:34:05 DBFlush(true) ended              11ms
2014-09-02 01:34:05 Shutdown : done

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At least our trolls are hero members.

LoL I was thinking exactly the same thing.

Even DarkTrolls are best of breed  Wink
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Is it sheer bad luck that I have not received any MN payments since I last Updated it on the Aug 22nd or is there something not right with this updated MN?

Here is a clipping of my MN from https://drk.mn/masternodes.html . I had help with the update and now I've been wondering what I should do next? Please give me a shout out if you can tell what in Sam Hill is going on?  Huh




Thank You. Peace.

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At least our trolls are hero members.

They don't use their newbies accounts for a change.  Roll Eyes

I haven't got time to manage loads of newbie accounts, just this one.
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At least our trolls are hero members.

They don't use their newbies accounts for a change.  Roll Eyes

One is a big LTC fan and the other a Monero supporter, nothing like a common threat to bring people closer.  Smiley
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What is the point in posting here? Everyone in the CryptoCoin scene knows Darkcoin isn't anonymous and is scamware, this thread is full of fools that want to be parted from their money and the smarter people taking it.

I came to the conclusion that this thread became a parody months ago, and I feel no serious discussion here is needed as you'll just be wasting your time.
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Found this article, is this all true?

OMG what's going on here Sad

I know that communication has always been a huge problem from your part, DZ, but that was only a communication problem, ok... Now, to simply disappear leaving such a mess behind: That's much more serious!

DZ, please, solve this situation. The DRK community wants to help, now it's up to you.

We have trusted you. You cannot just leave us disappointed like this.

DZ got a National Security Letter.  Big Brother does not approve of soliciting unregulated investments on the internet to use in Madoffnodes, for the purpose of laundering god-knows-who's money.
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