I get dark dreams when looking up at the blue skies.
What pools do you all recommend?
What pools do you all recommend?
suchpool or coinmine.pw or p2pool. With the price low you could also go for xpool.ca (multipool paying out in dark)
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August 27, 2014, 07:10:45 PM
suchpool or coinmine.pw or p2pool. With the price low you could also go for xpool.ca (multipool paying out in dark)
August 27, 2014, 06:58:21 PM
People here go from circle jerking to panic mode very fast. I don't see the problem 
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It all depends on what Evan meant by that statement. I think we can all agree that no enforcement is very very problematic. Miners do not necessarily have to be sympathetic to DRK. Additionally, no enforcement would open up an attack vector on the Masternode network. Someone who doesn't like DRK can simply mine at a 20% advantage to everyone else, while undermining the system that lets DRK function. .There has to be enforcement. I suppose the advantage of the RC3 voting method is that is has been tried and tested so in that regards surely less risky to turn on?
Let's wait to hear from the captain..
+1
Moreover we use the soft-fork strategy since June (test then enforce)
https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc3-relaunch-strategy-and-testing.1482/
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The last couple of days I've been working on implementing the hashing algorithm for the last issues we had on the 20th and I've come up with a strategy that I think will much better suit us for launching the masternode payment system.
Instead I propose the following plan for launching RC3 in stages, which will be much safer and more stable:
We'll introduce an "enforcing" setting for masternode payments. This will be turned off at launch making it the equivalent of a soft fork, but will allow us to use the full infrastructure of the darkcoin network for testing. In the debug log, the system will complain when any issues arise and users can report such issues. After a period of time passes with no issues, we'll set a date to begin enforcing. At this time all issues should be dealt with so we'll have a much smoother launch.
In the past launches all problems have come from the client checking the block to possible forging of masternode votes. With enforcing mode off, the system will still detect these and report them but it won't reject the block. So once we stop seeing these messages (except for valid forged blocks) the system is ready.
This also allows us to turn on masternode payments much sooner. I believe it will take us just a few days to test this new setup, then we can turn them on for mainnet.
Instead I propose the following plan for launching RC3 in stages, which will be much safer and more stable:
We'll introduce an "enforcing" setting for masternode payments. This will be turned off at launch making it the equivalent of a soft fork, but will allow us to use the full infrastructure of the darkcoin network for testing. In the debug log, the system will complain when any issues arise and users can report such issues. After a period of time passes with no issues, we'll set a date to begin enforcing. At this time all issues should be dealt with so we'll have a much smoother launch.
In the past launches all problems have come from the client checking the block to possible forging of masternode votes. With enforcing mode off, the system will still detect these and report them but it won't reject the block. So once we stop seeing these messages (except for valid forged blocks) the system is ready.
This also allows us to turn on masternode payments much sooner. I believe it will take us just a few days to test this new setup, then we can turn them on for mainnet.
The RC3 system was maybe never enforced because a system change was scheduled for RC4.
August 27, 2014, 06:58:08 PM
I get dark dreams when looking up at the blue skies.
What pools do you all recommend?
What pools do you all recommend?
August 27, 2014, 06:48:04 PM
People here go from circle jerking to panic mode very fast. I don't see the problem .
It all depends on what Evan meant by that statement. I think we can all agree that no enforcement is very very problematic. Miners do not necessarily have to be sympathetic to DRK. Additionally, no enforcement would open up an attack vector on the Masternode network. Someone who doesn't like DRK can simply mine at a 20% advantage to everyone else, while undermining the system that lets DRK function. .There has to be enforcement. I suppose the advantage of the RC3 voting method is that is has been tried and tested so in that regards surely less risky to turn on?
Let's wait to hear from the captain..
August 27, 2014, 06:42:27 PM
People here go from circle jerking to panic mode very fast. I don't see the problem .
It all depends on what Evan meant by that statement. I think we can all agree that no enforcement is very very problematic. Miners do not necessarily have to be sympathetic to DRK. Additionally, no enforcement would open up an attack vector on the Masternode network. Someone who doesn't like DRK can simply mine at a 20% advantage to everyone else, while undermining the system that lets DRK function. . August 27, 2014, 06:39:41 PM
People here go from circle jerking to panic mode very fast (in every threads). I don't see the problem .
. August 27, 2014, 06:35:22 PM
I agree my panic was a bit premature, this downturn has me a bit jumpy. Let's await a statement.
August 27, 2014, 06:33:02 PM
What I understand is that the voting system was supposed to change from RC3 to RC4 but we stay with the RC3 system hence no enforcement for the RC4...
Yes, but the concern is that Evan was very reluctant to test enforcement with RC3 payments before... Not time to panic, but an explanation would be nice. August 27, 2014, 06:26:26 PM
What I understand is that the voting system was supposed to change from RC3 to RC4 but we stay with the RC3 system hence no enforcement for the RC4...
August 27, 2014, 06:25:25 PM
I am seriously stressing right now.
LoL.
We're at 1 **sixth** of the all time high and you're just getting round to stressing now ?
If you're not out already your a bit late to worry about technical issues
August 27, 2014, 06:23:27 PM
uh oh. 
August 27, 2014, 06:22:11 PM
I took it as no enforcement for the update, not 'no enforcement ever'.
+1. That was the obvious interpretation.
Alarmism not required unless Evan makes an announcements saying - "sorry folks, there's not ever going to be any enforcement EVER. Pools can keep their 20% if they wish or kindly make a donation to the masternode people which would be much appreciated".
I think he might have thought twice about the formality of announcement had that been the real plan.
August 27, 2014, 06:17:47 PM
I took it as no enforcement for the update, not 'no enforcement ever'. Fingers crossed.
No enforcement for RC5 would still be terrible. If that is the case, this is a multiple month setback. I am seriously stressing right now. Calm down.
I agree no enforcement ever is very very bad, but let's wait for Evan to explain what he meant and what he has in mind.
August 27, 2014, 06:08:24 PM
I took it as no enforcement for the update, not 'no enforcement ever'. Fingers crossed.
No enforcement for RC5 would still be terrible. If that is the case, this is a multiple month setback. I am seriously stressing right now. August 27, 2014, 06:06:09 PM
I took it as no enforcement for the update, not 'no enforcement ever'. Fingers crossed.
August 27, 2014, 06:03:30 PM
Evan we NEED a clear statement on what is going on! The theme for the last two fucking months was that enforcement was just around the corner! Please explain!!
I agree. This is nothing short of disasterous if true. I'm seriously hoping you just misspoke.
Without enforcement, why would any pool pay MNs?
Doesn't it mean that a hard fork would be necessary for enforcement? If that's the case, sure, it's not ideal but it's hardly the end of the world.
August 27, 2014, 06:01:43 PM
Evan we NEED a clear statement on what is going on! The theme for the last two fucking months was that enforcement was just around the corner! Please explain!!
I agree. This is nothing short of disasterous if true. I'm seriously hoping you just misspoke.
Without enforcement, why would any pool pay MNs?
Doesn't it mean that a hard fork would be necessary for enforcement? If that's the case, sure, it's not ideal but it's hardly the end of the world.
August 27, 2014, 06:00:42 PM
i really dont see why enforcement shouldnt be switched on. theirs 1pool that is paying 10% for months and now they will get even more time. i worry that other pools will switch back to 10% or more drkminers decide to move to the 10% pool. Either way rc4 should have enforcement on no matter what.
August 27, 2014, 05:54:23 PM
I seriously hope that something is being taken out of context, and I delete all these posts when Evan responds. I need to step away from the computer.
August 27, 2014, 05:53:51 PM
UH this is really worrying.
"Evan Duffield added a comment - 5 hours ago
It turns out the masternode voting system is over complicated and somewhat risky to the network, so I've removed it and am using the RC3 masternode payment system. This means we won't have enforcement, but it fixes all of these issues and removes the risk to the network."
PLEASE please please tell me this is not true. Without enforcement, the entire masternode system is compromised!!! What were all those months of work for, if we don't get enforcement?
"Evan Duffield added a comment - 5 hours ago
It turns out the masternode voting system is over complicated and somewhat risky to the network, so I've removed it and am using the RC3 masternode payment system. This means we won't have enforcement, but it fixes all of these issues and removes the risk to the network."
PLEASE please please tell me this is not true. Without enforcement, the entire masternode system is compromised!!! What were all those months of work for, if we don't get enforcement?
Hmmm
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