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piyany

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Quote from: Equate on August 12, 2014, 06:47:06 AM

Quote from: toknormal on August 12, 2014, 06:40:44 AM

Litecoin today.

LTC is getting dumped really hard by Asics .

Multipools dump constantly small amounts so that's not it.
This dump was prepared by chinese investors, happened in the middle of the night in China to catch people offguard. Coordinated with bitcoin dump.

McHammer

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altcoins are a fuckig scamgame
99,9% will be selected
i hope dark will be the 0,01% but im not sure ... Undecided

i could imagine a hard dump when rc4 is released
first it will go up a bit
and then a lot of us "dark is great "- hypocrits will dump hard
i tell you, i will sell at least 50%

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Quote from: toknormal on August 12, 2014, 06:40:44 AM

Litecoin today.

LTC is getting dumped really hard by Asics .

toknormal

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Litecoin today.

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Quote from: GhostPlayer on August 12, 2014, 05:41:01 AM

Yeah, but ALL coins are going down. wtf?

Someone wants to induce a little market panic?

salmion

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Quote from: GhostPlayer on August 12, 2014, 05:41:01 AM

Yeah, but ALL coins are going down. wtf?

Yeah across the board pretty much.

Is this because of bitlicenses? Is the honeymoon period for crypto over?

If the purge is coming the bar will be higher. Actual utility and use will be what drives price. Not gambling on future value.

DRK with RC4 is well placed to be used and for demand to grow organically with use.

GhostPlayer

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Yeah, but ALL coins are going down. wtf?

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Quote from: kiindje on August 12, 2014, 04:11:35 AM

think this was overlooked previously

LTC price is catching up downward wise to DRK, even when DRK is going down as well.

The LTC people finally realise their coin isn't worth more than DRK

yeah no kidding

kiindje

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think this was overlooked previously

LTC price is catching up downward wise to DRK, even when DRK is going down as well.

The LTC people finally realise their coin isn't worth more than DRK

bregge

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Quote from: dotnetmin on August 12, 2014, 03:49:18 AM

Quote from: bregge on August 12, 2014, 03:10:02 AM

Does the local/cold wallet for MN needs to be updated after RC4 release? I think I read somewhere that only the remote is a must. Can someone from testnet answer it?

Even if it would work with old wallet you should use the new one. There is no reson to use the old one.

The minimum you have to do on local wallet your 1K dark containing is to "masternode start YOURPASS"
( your masternodegenkey has to be listed into darkcoin.conf and masternode flag has to be "1" )
I would do that even if your masternode says that your IP is listed in masternodelist.

You have to know that if your darkcoin.conf does not contain any information to stop autodenominate your 1K get spitted and your node goes offline
with the new version.
I recommend to set masternode Flag to 1 on your wallet containing 1K Dark so it won´t autodenominate.
I did that on testnet over all versions and it works fine without shut down my masternode.

It happend to me the first time autodenomination was working on testnet

thx

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Quote from: bregge on August 12, 2014, 03:10:02 AM

Does the local/cold wallet for MN needs to be updated after RC4 release? I think I read somewhere that only the remote is a must. Can someone from testnet answer it?

Even if it would work with old wallet you should use the new one. There is no reson to use the old one.

The minimum you have to do on local wallet your 1K dark containing is to "masternode start YOURPASS"
( your masternodegenkey has to be listed into darkcoin.conf and masternode flag has to be "1" )
I would do that even if your masternode says that your IP is listed in masternodelist.

You have to know that if your darkcoin.conf does not contain any information to stop autodenominate your 1K get spitted and your node goes offline
with the new version.
I recommend to set masternode Flag to 1 on your wallet containing 1K Dark so it won´t autodenominate.
I did that on testnet over all versions and it works fine without shut down my masternode.

It happend to me the first time autodenomination was working on testnet

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Quote from: Ozziecoin on August 11, 2014, 10:52:28 PM

Quote from: eduffield on August 11, 2014, 10:41:23 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

I'm pretty sure the Deathstar is a fitting analogy (minus the blowing up part. We've got that covered Grin

).

An email I just sent to Kristov explaining how the pairing strategy works:

the goal is for all participants to use the same denominations, so you can't tell who's are whos afterward.

For example, here's one approved pairing:

Bob: 500, 100, 100, 100, 10, 10
Mary: 500, 100, 100, 10
Joe 500, 100, 10

Another

Bob: 100, 100, 100, 10, 10, 1
Mary:100, 100, 10, 1
Joe 100, 10, 1, 1, 1

This means that if one has a 500DRK output, they all must have one. If one has a 100DRK output, they must all have at least one.

So the way this is accomplished is very complicated, I've attached the newest source and I'll point you to the correct locations where things are happening.

The flow of events is like this:

1.) DoAutomaticDenominating is executed, inputs are queried to see what work needs to be done (main.cpp:7080). The total amount is added up at main.cpp:7114, then this is fed into GetDenominationsByAmount. GetDenominationsByAmount creates a unique integer via bitshifting for each combination of inputs (main.cpp:7533, main.cpp:7527). So that integer can be recreated by another client pretty easily without having to pass the entire datastructure all around the network (std::vector vs int), it's a huge savings on that front.

2.) A DSA (Darksend Acceptable main.cpp:3928) is sent to a masternode with the total value that is going to be submitted. The next thing that happens is the masternode sees if it has any active sessions (main.cpp:7487), if it does it uses a few session variables. This is then fed into GetDenomationsByAmount, which gives us that bitshifted integer again.

3.) The masternode sends out a DarksendQueue object stating it's open for business, along with the bitshifted integer (main.cpp:6377). Then the next client when they run DoAutomaticDenomination, they'll look through those objects and see if they're compatible with any of the open sessions (main.cpp:7119). So as a result, we get to let clients pick the masternodes they use randomly and can use the entire network at once for all of the different combinations of denominations (which I'm really excited about, this is something that's been hard to achieve!).

4.) Then the signing begins and all of that jazz

Yeah but there is only one Deathstar and 850 MNs. Wink

Question 1: how does network now determine that MN is legit and has 1000 Drks in it? i.e. how are fake MNs detected.

Question 2: any comments on potentially larger blockchain? i.e. calcs done on extra transactions etc...

Question 3: Do you sleep? Cheesy

We has 850 Deathstars.

I think "let clients pick the masternodes they use randomly" is best part.

I think DarksendQueue is something like Darksend ping which should be encrypted using MN's masternodeprivkey.

bregge

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Does the local/cold wallet for MN needs to be updated after RC4 release? I think I read somewhere that only the remote is a must. Can someone from testnet answer it?

Phillis

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whoa, new layout of https://darkcointalk.org is pretty cool and sleek.

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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing

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Quote from: chisefu on August 12, 2014, 12:20:51 AM

Well the innovation part of this is what will keep it relevant. Being the second true anonymous coin after fedoracoin was good, because sometimes being first doesn't catch on right away until a bigger name gets behind a concept. I'll keep holding onto the darkcoins I instamined back during the launch, I just wish there was POS enabled, that would be an easy way to raise the price a lot.

I'm thinking that you never read the book on POS
At least, old school POS...

You see - POS here means - PROOF OF SERVICE

One day, Dear Sir, you may come to know the ways of Darkcoin....

man I've been living in a cave this whole time, thanks prep H

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Quote from: eduffield on August 11, 2014, 10:41:23 PM

3.) The masternode sends out a DarksendQueue object stating it's open for business, along with the bitshifted integer (main.cpp:6377). Then the next client when they run DoAutomaticDenomination, they'll look through those objects and see if they're compatible with any of the open sessions (main.cpp:7119). So as a result, we get to let clients pick the masternodes they use randomly and can use the entire network at once for all of the different combinations of denominations (which I'm really excited about, this is something that's been hard to achieve!).

This part is BAD....ASS. Congrats. Masternode powers are going to separate us from all other coins.
"You've only begun to discover your power."

chisefu

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Well the innovation part of this is what will keep it relevant. Being the second true anonymous coin after fedoracoin was good, because sometimes being first doesn't catch on right away until a bigger name gets behind a concept. I'll keep holding onto the darkcoins I instamined back during the launch, I just wish there was POS enabled, that would be an easy way to raise the price a lot.

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