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legendary
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Quote from: M1SHO on Today at 10:25:54 PM
Always wanted to ask this question  :   Anonymous ?  Bitcoin is not ?  So .... if i want to do something illegal , or anonymous /take some dildo for my wife from a web store / , why i can't do it with a BTC ?  I want to transfer my "bad" money in btc  ----- what is the problem ---- i am in London's airport , with a usb stick in my pocket , with an bootstrap.dat on it , bye one laptop in nearest shop in cash /if you are doing bad things wit a lot of money one laptop is not a big deal/, put bootstrap.dat from the USB stick on it,start it obtaining a new btc address .......transfer your BTC's to anyone  / who is on Tokyo airport for example / .....throw that laptop in the river ,saving my wallet.dat before......and who can trace me ?

In the scenario you have given, you are traceable from start to finish, every which way, upside down and all over. Welcome to the 21st century.

Explain pls how ...im an DRK holder, just want to see the + and the -  of it .

You really need me to explain to you how using public wifi in an airport is pretty much the opposite of private or anonymous?
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And the ship goes down, you better be ready.

^ And trolls appear on the deck.
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Blockchain Just Entered The Real World
And the ship goes down, you better be ready.
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OK guys, it's time to pump, I've had enough of it. I'm fighting back against the dumpers. 45.63206295 BTC buy order submitted at 0.010
Wow immediately filled, sweet
legendary
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Yes, I believe.

I am holding because I Know now more than ever that we have the best team (hiro, chaositec, evan, ape, etc..) and the best anon project in cryto-land. Master nodes are really disruptive.

This is only bumps in the road.

Fuck the price, we are doing a revolution here, and I want to be part of it  Wink

 YESS !!! THIS !!
 
 Only people that dive in intellect, emerge in enlightenment.

Shit, It ought to patent this quote... anyway... truer words have not been said in over 1000 pages.
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OK guys, it's time to pump, I've had enough of it. I'm fighting back against the dumpers. 45.63206295 BTC buy order submitted at 0.010
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Quote from: M1SHO on Today at 10:25:54 PM
Always wanted to ask this question  :   Anonymous ?  Bitcoin is not ?  So .... if i want to do something illegal , or anonymous /take some dildo for my wife from a web store / , why i can't do it with a BTC ?  I want to transfer my "bad" money in btc  ----- what is the problem ---- i am in London's airport , with a usb stick in my pocket , with an bootstrap.dat on it , bye one laptop in nearest shop in cash /if you are doing bad things wit a lot of money one laptop is not a big deal/, put bootstrap.dat from the USB stick on it,start it obtaining a new btc address .......transfer your BTC's to anyone  / who is on Tokyo airport for example / .....throw that laptop in the river ,saving my wallet.dat before......and who can trace me ?

In the scenario you have given, you are traceable from start to finish, every which way, upside down and all over. Welcome to the 21st century.

Explain pls how ...im an DRK holder, just want to see the + and the -  of it .
legendary
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Fuck the price, we are doing a revolution here, and I want to be part of it  Wink

That was basically the bottom line for me as well.


I signed up to misbehave. What other people think DRK is worth at any given moment in time is largely irrelevant  to me.  Grin

Really, people should stop whining and let the devs carry on building something wonderful.
legendary
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Always wanted to ask this question  :   Anonymous ?  Bitcoin is not ?  So .... if i want to do something illegal , or anonymous /take some dildo for my wife from a web store / , why i can't do it with a BTC ?  I want to transfer my "bad" money in btc  ----- what is the problem ---- i am in London's airport , with a usb stick in my pocket , with an bootstrap.dat on it , bye one laptop in nearest shop in cash /if you are doing bad things wit a lot of money one laptop is not a big deal/, put bootstrap.dat from the USB stick on it,start it obtaining a new btc address .......transfer your BTC's to anyone  / who is on Tokyo airport for example / .....throw that laptop in the river ,saving my wallet.dat before......and who can trace me ?

In the scenario you have given, you are traceable from start to finish, every which way, upside down and all over. Welcome to the 21st century.
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Its because there is no indication of what is going on.

I have read elito's summary, and I'm more confused than enlightened. Specifics, not 'wait and see what we have lined up' is what people need.

Also, people have lost the concept of privacy and why its important. Anonymity has been used by a few other coins now, yet there is no reference as to why it is needed or what the impact could be on alts and eve bitcoin if they don't have proper anonymity.

I don't care about the price, I care about the hard fought brand values being diminished.

Not you too coins!

Day to day market fluctuations aren't on the front burner of things the dev team is concentrating on right now.  You guys may want to take another look at what toknormal posted a few minutes ago.

The simple fact of the matter is that there is not much new to report right now.  I said this as clearly as I could a few days ago - you remember, the post that you and Camo liked enough to quote in huge red letters (several times), but there was still an outcry about a lack of information.  

What the devs are willing to divulge at this point was included in my update yesterday.  If I have the green light to disclose more, believe me, I will.
legendary
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My analysis of where we are / where we should be going in terms of market & tech:

1) Primary buying force who took the price to the moon is in stand-by mode, calculating his moves - while also hedging himself with other coins. He likes DRK but would like to see more from it. Primary buyer has kept the price stable at psychological marks (#3 / #4 positions, $10 etc) for quite some time but he is giving warning shots here in order for DRK to increase its pace.

2) Market "dumps" are nothing spectacular in terms of volume. Volume nowadays is 1/10th of the pump days - so small sells move the market.

3) The communication issue is overblown in importance. Communication and announcements are usually for pumping purposes. Fundamentals, ie real progress, is more important. We do have an outline of what is going on - IMO this is not the problem. The problem is being stuck for two months in trying to do proper payments for masternodes, which proves to be more difficult than what most expected (due to multiple layers of consensus / disagreement - causing forks).

4) I believe a larger number of coins were stolen by DRKpool than 1000 DRKs but Evan might have downplayed it for obvious reasons. These coins might have been creating sell pressure. A number out of my a$$ would be something like 10-30k coins.

5) The broader environment seems weird right now. As I've mentioned in prior analysis when we were below DOGE & LTC, I don't see why DOGE or LTC would have higher value than DRK. So it is either DRK is undervalued or DOGE & LTC are highly overpriced. With DOGE heading to 30 satoshi and LTC being dumped down to 2$, things seem to move fast. Other anonymous coins - even with average-to-solid fundamentals, have larger losses than DRK.

6) In terms of fundamentals nothing changed since a week ago when the price was 0.017-0.018. Or, if we look at it from the perspective of the anon-race, more coins showed their incompetence and p&d nature - as they are consistently failing to provide what they promised.

7) A lot of "explanations" that try to link effects (lower price) with causes, remind me of the media when they link news items with market movements, even if unrelated.

8 ) Masternode payments are consuming coding resources from the "core business" of anonymity. The half-baked solution is good for debugging input but not something to really brag about.


As far as the future is concerned:

9) DRK needs a faster pace of development as it is perceived to be a weakness. When a new coin comes out and brings features (perceived or actual) by the bucketload, and DRK is perceived to be stagnant for two months, it's only natural that if one extrapolates the progression curve of DRK and other coins he will reach the conclusion that DRK is going to be overtaken.

DRK introduced innovation in a time when scrypt shitclones were being issued by the dozen each day. It shifted the focus from "what's the name of your coin / number of coins, etc" to "what does this coin offer". However, right now, more development is coming out as a result of that trend-setting and DRK will not be able to keep up with others if it follows its current curve. Hence the need for parallel implementations where features are being worked at in a parallel fashion, instead of linear. Bounties could help for that.

10) The main competitors of DRK have almost insurmountable difficulties (bytecoin = stealthmined / clones = very high inflation / PoS coins are DoA due to the nothing-at-stake vector) and hence their long term price is far riskier than DRK's.

11) The anonymity improvements of RC4 need to be robust. If 10 DRK denominations are removed, we need to have some kind of replacement otherwise coinjoin with non-identical inputs is currently been mapped by scripts and analyzed (=DoA). If someone can make a script to provide a transparent block explorer with the actual transactions = DoA. We will also need to fix the issue of the nodes knowing what they transact (if possible) and the issue of linking change from past transactions. In general, we need the best anonymity possible - with the fewest weak spots possible.
legendary
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Fuck the price, we are doing a revolution here, and I want to be part of it  Wink

That was basically the bottom line for me as well.
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i didnt invest in DRK but i feel sorry for you guys that my expectation became true. better times will come again probably after getting down to 0.006

lol don't feel sorry for me. The actual value is down but the coin is the same (dev team etc.). Future ? ...
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Always wanted to ask this question  :   Anonymous ?  Bitcoin is not ?  So .... if i want to do something illegal , or anonymous /take some dildo for my wife from a web store / , why i can't do it with a BTC ?  I want to transfer my "bad" money in btc  ----- what is the problem ---- i am in London's airport , with a usb stick in my pocket , with an bootstrap.dat on it , bye one laptop in nearest shop in cash /if you are doing bad things wit a lot of money one laptop is not a big deal/, put bootstrap.dat from the USB stick on it,start it obtaining a new btc address .......transfer your BTC's to anyone  / who is on Tokyo airport for example / .....throw that laptop in the river ,saving my wallet.dat before......and who can trace me ?
legendary
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Damn - I talked my wife into living in a motorhome for a couple years while we saved to buy the house we now own.  How the hell can I convince her to do this?.....

I put my girl in charge of trading, that got her hooked and believe it or not, she's moving into the warehouse with me, she's in just as deep as I am... She's learning to ride the scam waves to buy us more DRK...

We move next week, even running half NIST5 and half x11 the farm is gonna be a wee bit noisy for us to live next to, so right now I'm working out how to get the farm happy with fans on 20% without losing too much performance.

Make sure to diversify. My crypto portfolio is 60% DRK and 40% VRC, XC, CLOAK, SUPER, CINNI, SFR, and XGR.

“Wide diversification is only required when investors do not understand what they are doing.”
Warren Buffett

After the last 3 days, you still believe in this quote?  My other positions have gone up and will allow me to buy cheaper DRK.


Yes, I believe.

I am holding because I Know now more than ever that we have the best team (hiro, chaositec, evan, ape, etc..) and the best anon project in cryto-land. Master nodes are really disruptive.

This is only bumps in the road.

Fuck the price, we are doing a revolution here, and I want to be part of it  Wink
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i didnt invest in DRK but i feel sorry for you guys that my expectation became true. better times will come again probably after getting down to 0.006
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I read your prediction 1 month ago and could not agree more back then.

The question is now what happens after the inevitable bottom below 0.01?

We all knew with bitcoin that it will rise again and start preparations for another bubble with its strong fundamentals and big investors. But what about darkcoin? Another bubble seems unlikely this month, where will the money come from to bail out current trapped holders and reach new heights?

Wish I could know the future and act accordingly  Cool
legendary
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DASH is the future of crypto payments!
Blood running down the streets.

Where are all the pumpers with the "buy when blood is running down the streets" quotes?
Some ppl are making now a lot of money believe me.... who is dumping will wake up asking himself WHY did I sold so cheap aaaaaaaaaaaa
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