Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 5016. (Read 9723858 times)

Look, we need masternodes to process/mix transactions.  We need them to be expensive so that controlling the network is financially unfeasible.  We need people to put up masternodes, but they won't stick their money in an unmovable place without a reward.  We can't just increase the reward, because that would put the coin out of wack.

Ultimately, the true VALUE of the coin is in the services it can provide, which are the same as Bitcoin, but with complete privacy in a secure, decentralized fashion.

If mining profitability is too low, people will move on to another coin.
If there are too many masternodes, so the rewards are too few, people will close them and use/sell their coin.
eventually, we should find our balance.

If you don't see value in the masternodes and don't want to "share" your mining rewards, that's fine, you can mine another coin and sell it for dark, or keep it.  But those are the reasons for why things are being done the way they are.  There are many choices out there for other coins.

Anyway, we have to move beyond what is "fair" as some see it, to what will work, proper incentives, etc....  Yes, some people have a lot of money, they are rich, some don't, they are poor.  I'm in the 2nd group since I left my job due to illness.  But it's those that are wealthy and willing to put their wealth behind this coin so it can work that I thank, because ultimately, the coin will become more valuable and I will benefit.  I don't have money to buy better mining equipment (I bought an antminer when I first jumped in here 6 months ago, and it will never ever make enough bitcoin to pay for itself, LOL)  There is too much mining pressure for bitcoin and for Darkcoin to make them profitable yet people still mine. 

I really don't know what to say to your comment.  I've invested in a 3 year contract with amazon and pay about $9 a month in fees ea for my masternodes.  Kind of similar to paying for electricity.  I also mine on and off with my computers because they're on anyway.  I don't think we'll be short of miners any time soon.

So if you think about your comment, it really ends up sounding whiny and immature.

I wouldn't say that cryptonote coins are DOA.  You have to remember that they are based off of an entirely different protocol and are not just another bitcoin clone.  Nothing was in place.  No pools, no GUI, no decent miners.  That infrastructure is being developed as we speak.  Will Monero survive?  Maybe maybe not. Have they stumbled?  Yes they have.  But how many times has Darkcoin stumbled?  

People are already  starting to give up on Darkcoin.  The proof is in the price and the volume on the exchanges.  People are only going to put up with getting strung along for so long.  Of course you're going to have the die hard cheerleaders that will say that the fork failing was a good thing because blah blah blah.  And how many times are the weak hands going to be flushed out?  Every time the price goes down for Darkcoin it's just the weak hands selling and that they are not needed.  Well, it's not weak hands it's smart investors moving their money where they can make a profit.

This trains coming to the end of the line.  There are too many alternatives with alternative anonymity solutions just as good if not better than Darkcoin and a centralized masternode network.  Smart money is betting on cryptonote but it may be something else.  BBR has made some progress in eliminating blockchain bloat and continues to develop new features that are being adopted by other cryptonote coins.

Smart money diversifies their investments.  Putting all your eggs in one basket leads to possible losses and frustration as evidenced by the obvious panic by people like camosoul.  His wealth is directly tied to Darkcoin so it's expected that he would do anything and say anything to protect that investment.

I appreciate your politeness and apologize if I came across as rude in my reply to your post.

  

I liked it first, bought it second... thats how it should go, unless you're just a PnD chump

So you're an XC fanboy with 50 posts to your name that excels at cynicism.


LoL !!! Did you mention something about "losers" ?

That's a XC supporter. A shame for that coin. That's the only way they want to attract investors ?

Hey, my friends, please, let's stop all this fight. No one wins with that. Actually it disturbs Darkcoin thread a lot!

If you consider someone to be a troll, just ignore (and please, do not continue quoting...)

I am always here, reading your ideas, but the moments this thread reaches this level I become really disappointed and sad with you all.

I believe in DRK and those who do not believe in it, please, leave us alone, or at least make constructive arguments in order to help build, and not destroy. If we all work together we all win (remember we have a common enemy to fight, after all...)

Hey if you dont like it, stay out of every other thread

You guys are doing the same shit in other threads

You cant have your cake and eat it too. But its whatever the real and smart people know exactly whats going on. I am sorry you guys are just too stupid and blind and being manipulated hard.


Keep hiding and fudding - its all DARK COIN has going for it.

I feel bad for you, its pretty clear you cant think for yourselves and got scammed into buying into dark and now you love it because you cant get out.

I hope he feels worse. But people with no conscience/morals rarely do. Normal people. Such gross. Much fail. Wow.

I want to build a troll farm on the moon when I get there. Oh, I won't live there... I just want the trolls to live there... Oxygen not included.

I see a USB key ASIC as an expansion, not a contraction. They could be much cheaper and much more energy efficient. I wouldn't even need a GPU and my CPU could be left alone, while having several orders of magnitude more hashing power. More people would be mining. More distribution. No one would even care about ROI cuz $50! Most of us spend more on crap that doesn't even matter in a month. It would make mining a lot more DogeCoin-esque. You do it to help and the cost is negligible. Have you seen a 4 card R9 mining rig's price tag and it's power bill? Easier and cheaper than buying a new $250 i5 CPU, too.

The bottom line: change your idea of mining hardware. DRK guarantees that an ASIC can't be profitable or predictably delivered. There can be only one way to have an ASIC for DRK; as a commodity item just like everything else. It simply won't be a money hose. So, it would have to be cheap and energy-efficient enough that people don't really care if it is profitable. It would shift away from mining for get rich quick douchebags. Hmmm, MasterNodes...

Mine a different X11 coin with said ASIC. But then you'd only dump it for DRK anyway and the values will be in-step by then defeating the purpose... PoW is not dead. Treating it like a something-for-nothing Money Hose is.

That's why so many whiners about "masternode is hard, I'm entitled, where's my free stuffs."  Mining isn't money hose anymore no matter what you use. they hoped MN would be money hose, but they don't know how to computer, so they want MN welfare instead of doing work. Plugging in an ASIC and waiting to get blasted by the money hose is all they know how to do and it got taken away from them by their own greed.

You lost the game dickhead as I am not even trolling - that is just how stupid you guys are

These are facts, and you think I am trolling.



I can see why trolling definition does mean I am making light of FACTS about the coin - you can not effectively troll if you dont have some truth.

Dark losers only have lies because they are fed them daily by their community/coin


Game. Set. Match camosoul your fucking muppet



I love how you morons tried to hide this post from your "dev" by spamming your own thread.

And you generously come here to open our eyes...   Crawl back under your rock please.

Jeez. What a moronic post.

I don't know what gave you the need to vommit up all that clueless nonsense but I just hope you feel better after it.

I was referring to the CN coins.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!

Aw, I'm a worthless piece of shit? Please make yet another cogent argument. Name calling is the foundation of all liberal, entitled, valid arguments, isn't it? Nothing makes it more clear that you're right and I'm wrong, eh?

You're officially unworthy of getting seen by me. Stoop any lower and I'll use giraffe shit to clean any 'you' off of me that might have dripped, then use soap and water to clean off the shit.

I don't need to defend myself from a failed and ineffective attack... So far you've done nothing but backfire... You're not a threat. You demonstrate yourself to be the nobody that you say I am... I just like helping you put yourself on display. You're a special one...

This team and coin Just cant be trusted at all, the insta mining from the devs/lack of windows gui at launch (effectively rulling out a fair launch) masternode issues (remember that dumbfuck who knew nothing of internet security and lost his dark on his shitnode that doesnt work) - the fact this coin is not one bit anonymous yet makes the claim in the thread title as first anonymous coin - lol

Its pretty clear these so called "devs" have a lot to learn, if they were half as good you guys wouldnt be waiting soo long for so little.


And now this.


There was a reason why I never trusted this coin, didnt stop me profiteering on it, as thats just it, buy early and let the morons have a circle jerk over it and raise the prices and then dump it.  Thats all dark did for me was make me money with an over inflated pump and dump scam coin that delivers very little.

The only think dark coin has delivered is so many of you oxygen theifs that are a waste of space and time.

Feel free to make up some more bullshit to make yourselves feel and look better - after all you are burning yourselves very very hard in the community.  No one really gives a shit what a dark troll has to say anymore.

Just letting you know because you guys are too stupid and blind to see it.

Ignored.

In either case, an entity with the will and resources could create hashpower in secret. It would just be more difficult with an even playing field (cpu/gpu). I don't think there's a solution to this problem as of yet. Asics only become problematic when manufacturers decide to mine, rather than sell. Look at KNC.

I'm invested in coins that are DOA?  Is the DRK I'm holding DOA?  Is the Monero I mined in the beginning and have sold off to the tune of 70+ btc while still holding a quite substantial chunk DOA?  Same thing with BBR.  I have been doing very well with regards to what coins I mine and other coins I invest in.  While people like you were too busy brainwashed by the cult of Darkcoin.  People have been making money hand over fist on other coins.  I sold most of my Darkcoin at the peak and have since continued to make money off of it by buying it for lower than what I sell it for.

I'm not in a competition with a worthless piece of garbage like camosoul.  And I don't think he needs you coming out to defend him.  He's quite capable of that himself.  What I wonder is why you felt the need to inject yourself into someone else's pointless internet squabble.

It should be slippery, or bouncing, somehow involved with that which makes us testosterone addicts happy... It could be a tattoo, or clothing, or a hair clip, or pasties, or eyeballs, or...

Still trying to make darksend work...

I know several someones who would wear DRK body paint... Now that's a promo image...

I double dare you to put your money where your mouth is. :-D

Also:
She's cleary starring at the logo, dude!