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legendary
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8. Honorcoin (X11 / PoW/PoS): Nothing to show for except promises

Disintegrated into a scam coin. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/treat-developers-better-xhc-thread-moved-645946

Some of the most popular DRK trolls had this in their signature. I have said it in the past and it seems more and more like a possibility that the DRK trolls have a scam ring going with multiple scam coins launched within the last 2-3 weeks in particular. Some of the scammers then lead the gullible into a "reluanch" of the scam coin aka a pigeon hole outfit to rob them again.

Cry foul about DRK, launch scam coin in background, unload coins to exchange, relaunch scam coin as a messiah, cry DRK foul. Rinse and Repeat.

1. XC (X11 / PoW/PoS): It's going at it the wrong way (trusted nodes + coin forwarding from wallet to wallet - leading to lost coins / potential for stealing). They will have to change strategy.
2. Cloak (X13 / PoW/PoS): Laundering through exchanges, LOL
3. Mastiffcoin (X11 / PoW/PoS): Laundering through exchanges, LOL
4. Vericoin (Scrypt / PoW/PoS): Nothing to show for except promises
5. Pinkcoin (X11 / PoW/PoS): Centralized mixer
6. Cryptcoin (X11 / PoW/PoS): Nothing to show for except promises
7. Libertycoin (X11 / PoW/PoS): Nothing to show for except promises
8. Honorcoin (X11 / PoW/PoS): Nothing to show for except promises (SCAM)
9. Dreamcoin (X11 / PoW/PoS): Nothing to show for except promises
10. Cinni: (Scrypt / PoW/PoS): Nothing to show for except promises
11. Boost: (X13 / PoW/PoS): Nothing to show for except promises
12. Anoncoin (PoW Scrypt): IP obfuscation
13. TIPS (PoW Scrypt): Centralized mixer
14. Bytecoin-BCN (PoW): 99% premine of circulating coins + problematic codebase coupled with good anonymity (+2 years in development and still in infancy regarding basic stuff like GUI)
15. Bytecoin clones (PoW): Increasing in numbers every day diluting that field. MRO gets a special mention due to being the first clone. BBR gets another special mention for having a good dev. Still they experience significant problems due to the new codebase.
16. Zerocoin: DOA (?) / delayed for months
17. NXT (PoS): In discussions relative to anonymous implementation

vs

Darkcoin: DarkSend works right now (trustless/decentralized mixing). There are a few bugs to be sorted out in masternode payments.
^^^^^
I dont get why people are so stupid...sheep....Looking to make quick money at such high risk....buy the dev..
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That must explain the strength this morning and the need for decentralized mixing.
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https://www.facebook.com/Darkcoin

Just an FYI to everyone here, The Darkcoin Facebook page is calling Darkcoin a scam and linking a Hazard Article. I assume the page was hacked.

these guys are NOT affiliated with DRK !

this is the official page !!
https://www.facebook.com/DarkcoinOfficial

Please Report as scam and unlike .. this is just not cool  Angry
https://www.facebook.com/Darkcoin/timeline



If you click that "I dont like this post" > It's spam > Darkcoin's account is hacked or This is a fake account
then maybe it will be taken down
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8. Honorcoin (X11 / PoW/PoS): Nothing to show for except promises

Disintegrated into a scam coin. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/treat-developers-better-xhc-thread-moved-645946

Some of the most popular DRK trolls had this in their signature. I have said it in the past and it seems more and more like a possibility that the DRK trolls have a scam ring going with multiple scam coins launched within the last 2-3 weeks in particular. Some of the scammers then lead the gullible into a "reluanch" of the scam coin aka a pigeon hole outfit to rob them again.

Cry foul about DRK, launch scam coin in background, unload coins to exchange, relaunch scam coin as a messiah, cry DRK foul. Rinse and Repeat.

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Surprise about DRK's support strength relative to BTC given their respective market caps.
Surely the behaviour you describe is unsurprising as it would be expected to be proportional to volume rather than market cap, and furthermore will apply to resistance as well as support.

Okay fine, let's look at volume.

https://coinmarketcap.com/


Bitcoin 24 hr volume: $19,660,542
Darkcoin 24 hour volume: $695,167

Differential: 28x

Point still stands.

I was very clear about it applying resistance and support already.
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Surprise about DRK's support strength relative to BTC given their respective market caps.
Surely the behaviour you describe is unsurprising as it would be expected to be proportional to volume rather than market cap, and furthermore will apply to resistance as well as support.
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Getting to look like a bear trap built on Sunday.
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legendary
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The last few pages are like being back in the 600's... rationality, uncommon sense, and browncoats. Smiley
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https://www.facebook.com/Darkcoin

Just an FYI to everyone here, The Darkcoin Facebook page is calling Darkcoin a scam and linking a Hazard Article. I assume the page was hacked.

these guys are NOT affiliated with DRK !

this is the official page !!
https://www.facebook.com/DarkcoinOfficial
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DRK will promote freedom, actual freedom to gzillion people out there. Not only hi-end capital, but safe small tx too. Be it large volume, be it micro-tx. Totally private and anon.

The first real "e-money" ever.

THIS IS HERE AND NOW... Evan is just ironing some kinks. Testnet is getting stronger by the second!

1. It will get to totally private and (almost completely) anon when it gets anonymity enhancements + strong IP obfuscation.

2. It's not simply ironing out. I don't think people understand that altering the Bitcoin protocol in such a fundamental way, and making it resilient, is huge. It sounds simple in concept ("we'll add 10-20% payment to the node") but the delays should make everyone appreciate that it isn't.

Bitcoin is going against everything that we know regarding "coding" in the sense that ...it doesn't break! If you alter it in some ways, it can break. I don't even know if it is possible to alter it in a way that doesn't introduce some kind of vulnerability. Evan will need all the help he can get with this, not only by experienced people who do quality testing, but also by experienced coders that might be able to find different solutions in things that he can't see. The task of ...defying Satoshi's codebase, even by modifying it and trying to preserve its resilience, is no small feat.

A month ago I wrote:

I think it's a safe bet to assume there'll be another hard fork later on to fix bugs that appear live. The masternode payment system is a complex system and its doubtful that testnet has evaluated all possible scenarios where it can break.

Now remember... Bitcoin has redefined stability in a way that altcoins should be ...ashamed of themselves, really. Almost any changes that altcoins do on the bitcoin codebase, result in some type of problem. Or if they are written entirely from scratch, they have tons of issues (like CN coins, POS coins etc) because, well... they weren't written by the brilliance of Satoshi who had every parameter and possible eventuality almost mapped-out. The guy was thinking about variable types that expire in decades... His mind had a branch-prediction of seemingly every possible eventuality.

In my estimation it will require quite a bit of time to get everything sorted out but that's no blocker really because actual development projects require time. Writing a whitepaper just to initiate a pump & dump, without any substance behind it, takes just 40 minutes. Any coin that promises the world and skips the "ok, but where is the development time that is needed to do all these?" is nothing more than a scam. DRK isn't leading because it solved everything in a week. It's building upon months and months of work / new code / trials.

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However this isn't even close to what we see. Time and time again, thousands of DRK are dumped, and the price only moves a handful of percent. Now, I get clearly this is biased as you could point to times where this wasn't the case and DRK fell dramatically. Absolutley, but this isn't my point.

This thing actually started back in February. It seems to be almost inherent to DRK... Back then DRK was like 0.002... Around late February an exchange was hacked, the hacker took 330 BTCs and bought DRK that he then dumped on Poloniex. This would be enough to kill ANY coin at that stage. The dumps were massive. Yet, the coin rebound back to 0.002 and only after several waves of dumps the price went down to 0.001-0.0015. The resilience shown was even more mindblowing than the current one - as weird as it may sound given today's numbers, because the Feb numbers in terms of order book / liquidity / marketcap were faaaaar smaller...

There is simply no single coin out there with the resilience of DRK, whether it's the community acting as a pillar of stability, whale buyers, or a combination of both.
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I think Andreas might be a Darkcoin prophet  Shocked
Check this Bitcoin Neutrality talk he did in 2013
@34:50 min

http://youtu.be/jy6XIBnThpY?t=34m
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There is something I have noticed about this currency that I haven't seen talked about a whole lot, so I would like to point it out.

* Nods slowly *

The force is strong in this one

+1



lol +1
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Seriously I have yet to use any Apple product that did not almost instantly infuriate me with its complete inability do do anything actually useful, or do it the way I wanted to.
So much this. Apple takes powerful computer technology and handicaps it into a toaster for people who can barely operate a toaster without hurting themselves. It's actually a date screening criteria for me now. Girls with iPhones are not keepers. I need a woman with a brain.

"You, like, totally know stuff about stuff. Gross! Smart guys are a major turn off..." - Statement from a date with 2 college degrees in the medical field.

Men aren't supposed to be smart? No wonder procreation has become a crime against genetics... Vote early, vote often...
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There is something I have noticed about this currency that I haven't seen talked about a whole lot, so I would like to point it out.
I deduced that this would be the case when I went all-in back in early March. Smart Money has recognized what DRK is. The Pump and Dump PEOPLE will Pump and Dump any coin they see. Has nothing to do with the coin. What y ou observe is the result of the fact that a lot more than Pump and Dump is present here. This is why typical crypto trading ideologies don't work. Typical crypto trading ideologies are based on shitcoins, and DRK is not a shitcoin. The Smart Money says so, and you've just shone a spotlight on the proof.

There are a LOT of people like me focusing on DRK. We've watched the shitcoins. We saw BTC's rise. We know DRK is BTC 2.0. BTC was an experiment. Is an experiment. DRK finds the soft spots and hardens them. BTC Foundation is a mish-mash of do-nothings and dirt-bags and they'll never add masternodes. They won't touch the codebase for fear of shockwaves among the stupid people up to their eyeballs in hype and cluelessness. Some has to fill the delta between detected soft spots, and making them not soft anymore. It is inevitable. And it's called DRK. DRK doesn't have to worry about upsetting a bunch of dumbasses incapable of seeing the MtGox debacle a year in advance and crying about the community owes them... It doesn't have the encumbrances that petrify BTC and prevent that experiment from evolving it's own Proof of Service/masternode concept. Everyone else wants to call it a half-measure while re-inventing a wheel that doesn't need to be re-invented... The Smart Money sees what this is. Even if XC/MRO etc were finished projects, they're mostly pre-vestigial work that doesn't need to be done. Cryptonote based coins answer questions nobody asked while creating more problems than they solve... DRK is the only one that's moving up without trying to haul a ton of ego lard along with it.

So, I went all in. Because I'm not a dumbass.

It's about the same time I went all in as well for pretty much the same reasons...

Everyone calling us delusional sold far too early because they were too stupid to see what is obvious to a lot of us...

If this were the corporate world, they would be the ones who constantly got passed up for promotion, standing by the water cooler, moaning about how they didn't get the good chair...  Roll Eyes
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Yep - Its starting to catch on that bitcoin isnt private at all - and even the bolt on solutions that were created are not secure either.

More and more people are realising that an independent solution is what's required (Darkcoin). bitcoin will never fork to introduce privacy, the risk is too high. Bitcoin for public ledger transactions, Darkcoin for all other!

All it will take is a website to start capturing business addresses where you can enter someone's bitcoin address and uncover their entire history of spending. Smiley

Just read the article and I really like Kristov Atlas, he seams to know his stuff. I nominate him to be the third code reviewer

So the dream team I would like to see
If they would review the code would be:

Greg Maxwell
Andreas Antonopoulos
Kristov Atlas

+ Vitalik Buterin

What do you all think ? Are there more people that should be on this list ?
The more the merrier  Smiley



Add Vitalik Buterin to that list. Any combination of two in this list would priceless. Literally.

Personally, I think A.A. would be the top guy to audit. From all I have learnt from him, not about techy stuff but the core principles and philosophies that made Satoshi sit down and write the whitepaper, and the social implications bla bla bla... I think he would happily audit DRK

This news article is just the tip of the iceberg, as example

http://www.coindesk.com/how-bitcoin-helps-afghan-girls-achieve-financial-freedom/

problem is they dont mention these girl's younger IT skilled brothers.

DRK will promote freedom, actual freedom to gzillion people out there. Not only hi-end capital, but safe small tx too. Be it large volume, be it micro-tx. Totally private and anon.

The first real "e-money" ever.

THIS IS HERE AND NOW... Evan is just ironing some kinks. Testnet is getting stronger by the second!
He definitely belongs on the wishlist   
Added, thanks
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There is something I have noticed about this currency that I haven't seen talked about a whole lot, so I would like to point it out.
I deduced that this would be the case when I went all-in back in early March. Smart Money has recognized what DRK is. The Pump and Dump PEOPLE will Pump and Dump any coin they see. Has nothing to do with the coin. What y ou observe is the result of the fact that a lot more than Pump and Dump is present here. This is why typical crypto trading ideologies don't work. Typical crypto trading ideologies are based on shitcoins, and DRK is not a shitcoin. The Smart Money says so, and you've just shone a spotlight on the proof.

There are a LOT of people like me focusing on DRK. We've watched the shitcoins. We saw BTC's rise. We know DRK is BTC 2.0. BTC was an experiment. Is an experiment. DRK finds the soft spots and hardens them. BTC Foundation is a mish-mash of do-nothings and dirt-bags and they'll never add masternodes. They won't touch the codebase for fear of shockwaves among the stupid people up to their eyeballs in hype and cluelessness. Some has to fill the delta between detected soft spots, and making them not soft anymore. It is inevitable. And it's called DRK. DRK doesn't have to worry about upsetting a bunch of dumbasses incapable of seeing the MtGox debacle a year in advance and crying about the community owes them... It doesn't have the encumbrances that petrify BTC and prevent that experiment from evolving it's own Proof of Service/masternode concept. Everyone else wants to call it a half-measure while re-inventing a wheel that doesn't need to be re-invented... The Smart Money sees what this is. Even if XC/MRO etc were finished projects, they're mostly pre-vestigial work that doesn't need to be done. Cryptonote based coins answer questions nobody asked while creating more problems than they solve... DRK is the only one that's moving up without trying to haul a ton of ego lard along with it. That's not to say there are not interesting ideas out there. There are. But they're just one part of a puzzle and don't work as a solitary coin.

The most interesting is DogeCoin. It proved that a coin can work even with infinite inflation because that infinite inflation by means of PoW resulting in massive distribution and use. We were used to thinking that coin supply had to be very carefully controlled. We were organically proven wrong by a coin that was meant to be a joke. What was once thought to be the ultimate important facet of a coin turned out to be almost irrelevant. It's not the meme, it's the fact that anyone can mine a useful portion. It puts it in everyone's hands. If everyone has a coin, everyone can spend a coin. Adoption becomes wildly lopsided. Any time something is wildly lopsided, it evens out proportionally to how lopsided it is. The more crazy the slope, the faster it slides to the other side. this has been a far more important thing than anything else in crypto. Even (claimed) anoncoins.

legendary
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There is something I have noticed about this currency that I haven't seen talked about a whole lot, so I would like to point it out.

* Nods slowly *

The force is strong in this one
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