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RoyalSands

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Quote from: JGCMiner on May 23, 2014, 12:52:19 PM

Quote from: RoyalSands on May 23, 2014, 12:33:02 PM

Quote from: TanteStefana2 on May 23, 2014, 11:57:34 AM

And governments are truly powerless against this new technology.

I'm not sure that is true. Does that make me a troll? Of course it does! As long as the price of DRK is generally going up nothing negative can be said about the coin without people freaking out. Also I think DRK is overdue for a correction so I'm spreading FUD too.

I also forgot to add that I'm just mad that I didn't get in earlier which is why I'm spreading this FUD. Makes perfect sense.

Interesting attempt -- at least they are getting creative Tongue

Oh, and if a decentralized currency was so easy for governments to shutdown then we would have already seen the end of bitcoin ages ago led by the Chinese. Given the size of the bitcoin blockcain I wouldn't be surprised if there were more masternodes than BTC full nodes in the near future.

DRK will be sooooo easy to stop Grin

The Chinese government only has to say a couple negative things about Bitcoin to crash the price.

coins101

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Quote from: wegsturm on May 23, 2014, 12:49:06 PM

This coin will never become mainstream due to regulatory issues, sorry guys.

We've done the regulatory thing, its ok. They don't mind.

Quote from: coins101 on May 22, 2014, 10:39:31 AM

Quote from: traderman on May 22, 2014, 10:20:26 AM

I've dealt with regulators. They are difficult, but usually play by the rule book. Those that write the rules are the ones you need to be concerned about. In the USA, they are now accepting Bitcoin as political donations.

So the question is regulating block chain currencies vs. non-block chain currencies.

Well, there has never been this distinction before. So the question has been asked and answered by one of the most senior US officials in this space - someone from the Treasury who enforces the bank secrecy act.

http://youtu.be/M7bbDpwlTws?t=11m48s

You can argue your point until the cows come home, at present its looking reasonably ok. Even China has 'banned bitcoin' but allowed it to continue.

JGCMiner

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Quote from: RoyalSands on May 23, 2014, 12:33:02 PM

Quote from: TanteStefana2 on May 23, 2014, 11:57:34 AM

And governments are truly powerless against this new technology.

I'm not sure that is true. Does that make me a troll? Of course it does! As long as the price of DRK is generally going up nothing negative can be said about the coin without people freaking out. Also I think DRK is overdue for a correction so I'm spreading FUD too.

I also forgot to add that I'm just mad that I didn't get in earlier which is why I'm spreading this FUD. Makes perfect sense.

Interesting attempt -- at least they are getting creative Tongue

Oh, and if a decentralized currency was so easy for governments to shutdown then we would have already seen the end of bitcoin ages ago led by the Chinese. Given the size of the bitcoin blockcain I wouldn't be surprised if there were more masternodes than BTC full nodes in the near future.

DRK will be sooooo easy to stop Grin

thelonecrouton

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Quote from: wegsturm on May 23, 2014, 12:49:06 PM

This coin will never become mainstream due to regulatory issues, sorry guys.

Admit it, you enjoy that truncheon up your arse, don't you? Kiss

Joshuar

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Quote from: wegsturm on May 23, 2014, 12:49:06 PM

This coin will never become mainstream due to regulatory issues, sorry guys.

People said the same thing about Bitcoin, how it will be shut down by the government etc etc.. Phlease.

Kai Proctor

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Quote from: wegsturm on May 23, 2014, 12:49:06 PM

This coin will never become mainstream due to regulatory issues, sorry guys.

Tell me more about those "regulatory issues". Please humor me. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: RoyalSands on May 23, 2014, 12:33:02 PM

Quote from: TanteStefana2 on May 23, 2014, 11:57:34 AM

And governments are truly powerless against this new technology.

I'm not sure that is true. Does that make me a troll? Of course it does! As long as the price of DRK is generally going up nothing negative can be said about the coin without people freaking out. Also I think DRK is overdue for a correction so I'm spreading FUD too.

I also forgot to add that I'm just mad that I didn't get in earlier which is why I'm spreading this FUD. Makes perfect sense.

You seem a little defensive there mate. If you want to have a chat about the technical implementation, possible attack vectors etc., go right ahead, that kind of thing is welcomed here. If you want contribute to the rabble about trolls & FUD, well, it's just noise.

What's your take on why you think Tante's statement might not be true?

coins101

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Quote from: TanteStefana2 on May 23, 2014, 12:26:24 PM

Quote from: elviselvis101 on May 23, 2014, 12:16:52 PM

Hi, can you explain about 4 million coins, it says 22 million and 7% decrease in the number of coins generated per year, on page 1.
Thanks

Yes, I was just trying to explain why the price was going up right now. Demand should easily outpace mining the next 50 years or more. In fact, because of the variable rewards, it looks like the final number of coins will be more like 19 million rather than 22.

The price is mainly due to increased interest in the coin, more people are discovering it's quality and ANONYMITY feature, network effects are taking place. The fact that it also has a limited supply is a critical factor.

As interest grows the price will grow.

To think of it another way If there was only one forum troll in the world it would still be worthless, it's scarcity doesn't make it valuable by itself.

If people find DRK more useful for them to USE than e.g. LTC or BTC, then in time DRK's price will be over $75 or $2000 (4mil DRK vs 29mil LTC/13mil BTC) respectively. Network effects will make this happen over time.

Someone pointed out, a few hundred pages back somewhere, that the code base for Darkcoin is not a million miles away from Bitcoin. That means that Darkcoin could, with a bit / a lot of effort, be added to any existing merchant, payment processor, ATM, etc where Bitcoin already exists.

So if Bitcoin becomes mainly about the block chain analysis, and people get the lack of anonymity in Bitcoin, then there is an outside chance that Darkcoin could be bundled in as an alternative for specific outlets, points of purchase and distribution points.

If this rate of interest and popularity continues, Darkcoin could be the obvious choice over any other potential solution that could achieve the same thing. Who knows where this might go (other than to the moon Grin

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Quote from: RoyalSands on May 23, 2014, 12:33:02 PM

Quote from: TanteStefana2 on May 23, 2014, 11:57:34 AM

And governments are truly powerless against this new technology.

I'm not sure that is true. Does that make me a troll? Of course it does! As long as the price of DRK is generally going up nothing negative can be said about the coin without people freaking out. Also I think DRK is overdue for a correction so I'm spreading FUD too.

I also forgot to add that I'm just mad that I didn't get in earlier which is why I'm spreading this FUD. Makes perfect sense.

Until you or someone else comes up with a credible potential spanner in the works, I'm pretty much doing the opposite of freaking out. Grin

I have yet to hear one such sensible argument.

Rux

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Quote from: wegsturm on May 23, 2014, 12:49:06 PM

This coin will never become mainstream due to regulatory issues, sorry guys.

we dont need to be mainstream to rule the world

wegsturm

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This coin will never become mainstream due to regulatory issues, sorry guys.

thelonecrouton

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The fact that it also has a limited supply is a critical factor.

Really, that's just psychological. It's not like 1DRK can't be divided...

thelonecrouton

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Quote from: Grifftech on May 23, 2014, 12:40:14 PM

Quick mining question, what is WU? I am mining at 2.1 Mh/s on 2 cards and my WU is .030/m what does that mean?

WU should be about 1/79th IIRC of your hash with X11, so you're doing fine.

thelonecrouton

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Quote from: ibcrypto on May 23, 2014, 12:32:42 PM

I’m a believer in this and seems like Evan and team have the right combination. The WebSite states that the "DarkSend" feature will be in RC1 testing on MainNet and the Wiki says http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/(RC 2 as of May 2014) and will be open-sourced when complete.

I'm all for this technology, and enjoying the ride up, but seems like alot is riding on a feature which has not yet been implemented.

What happens if it is delayed or there is a problem with the implementation?

DarkSend works perfectly with the current RC (10.8.6) and has done for weeks. It *is* currently in beta though and has a 10DRK transaction limit, which will be lifted very shortly.

In under 48hrs masternode payments go live, but that's really no big deal for users, just node ops, users wont notice anything. Except maybe further price rises... Wink

Grifftech

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Quick mining question, what is WU? I am mining at 2.1 Mh/s on 2 cards and my WU is .030/m what does that mean?

coins101

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Quote from: RoyalSands on May 23, 2014, 12:35:03 PM

Quote from: ibcrypto on May 23, 2014, 12:32:42 PM

Still have the same view:

Quote from: coins101 on May 22, 2014, 03:41:43 PM

I still say, its under valued for the potential it could bring.

VCs would put in something now to give the current project a $100m valuation if they thought their share would be worth a proportion of a $1bn in 3 years time. That's how they work. Invest now, work hard, sell for x times more in 3 to 5 years.

Could darkcoin be worth over $1bn in 3 years time, recognizing that it could fail in that time, but if it does what it set out to do? If yes, then we are under valued at $50m.

And my homework to back it up

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6335710

Waiting for your considered analysis beyond - 'I think this', 'I reckon that', 'I've seen it all before', 'I know better than everyone else'.......yeah, yeah, yeah. You haven't seen it before, it's just been put out to market for the first time in human history.

RoyalSands

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Quote from: ibcrypto on May 23, 2014, 12:32:42 PM

I’m a believer in this and seems like Evan and team have the right combination. The WebSite states that the "DarkSend" feature will be in RC1 testing on MainNet and the Wiki says http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/(RC 2 as of May 2014) and will be open-sourced when complete.

I'm all for this technology, and enjoying the ride up, but seems like alot is riding on a feature which has not yet been implemented.

What happens if it is delayed or there is a problem with the implementation?

FUD alert! There can be no problems, this coin is perfect!

RoyalSands

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Quote from: TanteStefana2 on May 23, 2014, 11:57:34 AM

And governments are truly powerless against this new technology.

I'm not sure that is true. Does that make me a troll? Of course it does! As long as the price of DRK is generally going up nothing negative can be said about the coin without people freaking out. Also I think DRK is overdue for a correction so I'm spreading FUD too.

I also forgot to add that I'm just mad that I didn't get in earlier which is why I'm spreading this FUD. Makes perfect sense.

ibcrypto

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I’m a believer in this and seems like Evan and team have the right combination. The WebSite states that the "DarkSend" feature will be in RC1 testing on MainNet and the Wiki says http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/(RC 2 as of May 2014) and will be open-sourced when complete.

I'm all for this technology, and enjoying the ride up, but seems like alot is riding on a feature which has not yet been implemented.

What happens if it is delayed or there is a problem with the implementation?

wegsturm

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 23, 2014, 12:26:09 PM

Quote from: eduffield on May 23, 2014, 09:18:39 AM

Masternodes, please restart!

I've noticed some nodes popping in and out of the masternode lists. I'd like all of the masternodes to follow these instructions to see if the problem gets fixed

1.) stop the daemon
2.) update to 10.8.6 if you haven't
3.) add "maxconnections=200" to your configuration
4.) wait ten minutes (it MUST be ten minutes! This will allow the masternode election entry to propagate)
5.) start the daemon and turn on the masternode

bump, plus should this have gone out on the mailing list?

Sad NSA admin lol

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