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thelonecrouton

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Quote from: hartvercoint on May 19, 2014, 06:21:36 AM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 19, 2014, 06:04:19 AM

Masternodes dont use the GUI wallet clients you're used to, you run the CLI darkcoind daemon on the masternode server. But yes that darkcoind needs to be the latest RC (10.xx.xx) version. Linux is the only sane option if you're running a masternode... Wink

If you're thinking of doing this on your home Windows box, you need to rethink that plan.

I don't know why people keep propagating the idea that Linux is inherently secure. If you set up any kind of server without any knowledge of what you're actually doing, setting it up on Linux won't help you shit. If you don't know about security stuff setting up a server is generally just a bad move and should be thought over. Please stop spreading that irresponsible "Use Linux and you're perfectly safe" myth. The penguin is not going to magically secure you if you don't know how to make use of its tools.

edit: Rant over. No offense!

I never said, "Use Linux and you're perfectly safe" - but following, for example, the guide on darkcointalk you'd struggle to go wrong even if you knew nothing but how to cut and paste commands. Plus if you're renting a VPS it's usually cheaper if it's linux. Personally I find doing almost anything with linux simply easier than trying to do it with Windows, but that's just me...

The bit about running a masternode on your home Windows box was actually more about factors like uptime, bandwidth, generally knowing what you're doing when you have 1000 DRK at stake etc.

No offense taken BTW, I am thick skinned, and people tell me while facepalming that nothing ever sinks in. Grin

coins101

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Quote from: lohveh on May 19, 2014, 06:29:27 AM

Nobody could help me ?
Why it still "not yet redeemed" since 3:30AM ?
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/tx.dws?ca9eef8656244ef09146a118ee92ee6c65ee9e34a7c31fdb9b25d1cbc1a52ce4.htm
I suck to decrypt chains Sad

thanks

try here

https://darkcointalk.org/forums/darkcoin-support.44/

lohveh

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thanks

thefrog

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Quote from: hartvercoint on May 19, 2014, 06:21:36 AM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 19, 2014, 06:04:19 AM

If you're thinking of doing this on your home Windows box, you need to rethink that plan.

Every system is as secure as you make it. Agree on that.
Linux can be made more secure with less effort, and you dont need tonns of 3rd party software.
And in linux you at least can check what is going on.
And you can do 100% of what you want to achieve on command line, without relying on stuff like Team View or RDP or VNC or whatsoever.

hartvercoint

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 19, 2014, 06:04:19 AM

If you're thinking of doing this on your home Windows box, you need to rethink that plan.

abalam

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Quote from: TanteStefana2 on May 19, 2014, 04:43:56 AM

Quote from: abalam on May 19, 2014, 02:39:02 AM

Quote from: chaeplin on May 19, 2014, 01:24:59 AM

Quote from: abalam on May 19, 2014, 12:48:23 AM

Hello,

Sorry if this kind of info has already been given, or a stupid question, but there is a lot of pages in this thread and i cannot find a formal answer to this on google...
( only found something near : https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-wallet-fees.583/ )

I'm using linux version compiled from github.
I found differences between asked to be sent and the real balance, and i found transactions with anormal fees.

Example on this transaction : http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/63071f80064d88ed0571fd2dcf29703fb4381bf70a87defea304cb0941f0f0de

1. Is it a tax, or a bug at this time (april 26th) ?
2. Why if we asked to send 0.40119180 DRK, then a tax of 0.59720399 DRK is added ? tax is more than 100% of the original request !
3. Does it come from the Darksend system ?
4. How can i estimate this before to send ?
5. Is there a way to disable this kind of huge tax ?

Thank you very much for reading.

63071f80064d88ed0571fd2dcf29703fb4381bf70a87defea304cb0941f0f0de tx has no fee.
check http://explorer.darkcoin.io/block/00000000001aca151243eac7e99579a766c2cf6e6f76ad4fe62f08017001496e

Code:

Transaction	Fee	Size (kB)	From (amount)	To (amount)
63071f8006...	0	0.226	n17aixucDZcig5B7h2Z4dGfgYMdwZPXEbm: 0.99839579 mpdnUv5V6k1vFQaa4FX4iCczuETp4UX1i5: 0.4011918
                                                                          mvgsNJ45JhEEYJsEu38XM9edeoPoTrnHDM: 0.59720399

Fee and dust limit config : https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin/blob/master/src/main.h#L49-L89

What is transaction fee : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees

Darkcoin current mintxfee is 0.001

Thank you for complete answer to baddw and chaeplin.
I'm aware of fees with crypto in general, but i thought this proportion was weird.
I can't find any transaction back to another address in the wallet with the same amount.
I'm using listtransactions method.
Does it create a new different address in the wallet or does it use an already existing address randomly ?

Does your wallet show -0.40119180 and no more? I don't think you will see all the behind the scenes stuff in your wallet. Yes, on the blockchain, but not in your wallet because it would get horribly confusing. You should only see that you sent out -0.40119180 and nothing more.

That's exactly what i think : why do i see this in my wallet if it's a "behind the scene" system...
Yes, it's confusing me because i see this in my wallet althought i only sent 0.40119180 DRK :

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{
"account" : "",
"address" : "XqrkuVczTP1Zv8zD3MUNNm86d9NnZGGJzV",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -0.59720399,
"fee" : 0.00000000,
"confirmations" : 13043,
"blockhash" : "00000000001aca151243eac7e99579a766c2cf6e6f76ad4fe62f08017001496e",
"blockindex" : 11,
"blocktime" : 1398517146,
"txid" : "63071f80064d88ed0571fd2dcf29703fb4381bf70a87defea304cb0941f0f0de",
"time" : 1398517146,
"timereceived" : 1400231480
},
{
"account" : "",
"address" : "Xjog27eQFRoFdEhYCZrujp6TsaSo6VKENo",
"category" : "send",
"amount" : -0.40119180,
"fee" : 0.00000000,
"confirmations" : 13043,
"blockhash" : "00000000001aca151243eac7e99579a766c2cf6e6f76ad4fe62f08017001496e",
"blockindex" : 11,
"blocktime" : 1398517146,
"txid" : "63071f80064d88ed0571fd2dcf29703fb4381bf70a87defea304cb0941f0f0de",
"time" : 1398517146,
"timereceived" : 1400231480
},

thefrog

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 19, 2014, 06:04:19 AM

Quote from: thefrog on May 19, 2014, 05:59:06 AM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 19, 2014, 05:35:21 AM

Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 05:27:09 AM

Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 05:07:43 AM

Not to tempt fate but once the server say gets hacked Im presuming they then be able to ascertain > target the IP of your local wallet. Either way the 1000 DRK have to be "online" right? so you'll still require some major balls to run a masternode. What do u think?

I am tempted to post a link to a wallet.dat that has 1 DRK in it, and a strong password, and see if anyone can successfully spend that 1 DRK. I'd be betting they couldn't.

Another great answer!

quick follow-up : Im assuming the masternode stores a copy of the private key or must be able to unlock your local wallet somehow?

I have absolute faith in eduff and co. and am sure they have dealt with this problem, assuming it exists. But there is some kind of key transmission between wallet and server, yes?

The masternode just needs to see that those 1000 DRK are still living in that address, which it can do by looking at the blockchain. No key is required. The masternode doesn't ever need to unlock the wallet, the 1000 DRK are never used in any way in the mixing process.

Just a quick question.
Can the masternode be set up with the latest 9.x wallet, or does it need the 10.x branch ?
Asking because I do not run Ubuntu, for which the 10.x binary is compiled.
;-/
thanks

Sure, I am talking about linux here, but the gcc the current 10x daemon is compiled is is lower that the one I have running.
So its missing the "old" GLIBC libraries

./darkcoind: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by ./darkcoind)
./darkcoind: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by ./darkcoind)

EDIT: As I see I have to update to the latest "experimental" debian branch to get 2.15, as currently the main has 2.13.

Was planning to run 2 master nodes, with the idea of having the "local" wallet in a paper wallet form.

thelonecrouton

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Quote from: thefrog on May 19, 2014, 05:59:06 AM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 19, 2014, 05:35:21 AM

Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 05:27:09 AM

Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 05:07:43 AM

I am tempted to post a link to a wallet.dat that has 1 DRK in it, and a strong password, and see if anyone can successfully spend that 1 DRK. I'd be betting they couldn't.

Just a quick question.
Can the masternode be set up with the latest 9.x wallet, or does it need the 10.x branch ?
Asking because I do not run Ubuntu, for which the 10.x binary is compiled.
;-/
thanks

If you're thinking of doing this on your home Windows box, you need to rethink that plan.

thefrog

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 19, 2014, 05:35:21 AM

Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 05:27:09 AM

Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 05:07:43 AM

I am tempted to post a link to a wallet.dat that has 1 DRK in it, and a strong password, and see if anyone can successfully spend that 1 DRK. I'd be betting they couldn't.

Just a quick question.
Can the masternode be set up with the latest 9.x wallet, or does it need the 10.x branch ?
Asking because I do not run Ubuntu, for which the 10.x binary is compiled.
;-/
thanks

coins101

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Quote from: coins101 on May 18, 2014, 07:35:55 PM

Not much in the way until 0.016

It worked....easily breaking the 0.02 barrier this week with the coming release schedule + media coverage and payments to master nodes.

thelonecrouton

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Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 05:27:09 AM

Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 05:07:43 AM

I am tempted to post a link to a wallet.dat that has 1 DRK in it, and a strong password, and see if anyone can successfully spend that 1 DRK. I'd be betting they couldn't.

dotnetmin

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Quote from: fernando on May 19, 2014, 05:28:49 AM

Quote from: dotnetmin on May 19, 2014, 05:22:48 AM

I did try to do a bit arbitrage trading between cryptsy and Mintpal.
Afer done on a volume of 0,25 BTC i did recalclulate my trades as i did wonder where my profit was lost.

So i found out i payed 0,15% fee of volume at mintpal and 3% on cryptsy.

Cryptsy Charged me 3%, I´ve been done with them. Not only their bad transaction times, they also rip off their costumers !

Has somebody a link to their fees table ?

The one on Mintpal is easy to find, the fees table on cryptsy Huh

Cryptsy charges 0.20% to buy and 0.30% to sell. Are you sure about your numbers?

I found out, they list their fees with 9 decimal places (instead 8 as usal for BTC ) and you cant import their table with copy and paste in excel so i did it by hand. They charge me 0.3% fee, it was a sell order

fernando

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Quote from: dotnetmin on May 19, 2014, 05:22:48 AM

Cryptsy charges 0.20% to buy and 0.30% to sell. Are you sure about your numbers?

EDIT: the link to Cryptsy fees: https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/173970-what-are-cryptsy-s

child_harold

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Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 05:07:43 AM

I am tempted to post a link to a wallet.dat that has 1 DRK in it, and a strong password, and see if anyone can successfully spend that 1 DRK. I'd be betting they couldn't.

CryptoPleb

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Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 05:07:43 AM

Quote from: illodin on May 19, 2014, 05:01:16 AM

Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 04:55:44 AM

When DRK hits $100 a masternode will be worth 100,000 bucks
Who will risk running such a server besides security geniuses?

You can have your 1000 DRK in a "local" wallet running on your personal computer and have the server running the master node with an empty wallet. So even if your public server is hacked, they can't steal your 1000 DRK.

Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 04:55:44 AM

will future masternodes require less DRK?

No - dev said that 1000 DRK is a good number, any lower and there will be too many nodes causing too much network load.

Thanks for the great answer.

Not to tempt fate but once the server say gets hacked Im presuming they then be able to ascertain > target the IP of your local wallet. Either way the 1000 DRK have to be "online" right? so you'll still require some major balls to run a masternode. What do u think?

Im also interested in this. It is correct that your local wallet has to be online to have your masternode running right?

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lohveh

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Quote from: lohveh on May 19, 2014, 04:49:43 AM

Quote from: lohveh on May 19, 2014, 03:06:37 AM

Hello ! I got a problem. I sent 36.9 DRK from my wallet (up to date) 5hours ago and my mintpal wallet still at 0 (enven in the pendings) I'm at work so can't provide adresse to verify now. Sad

Edit : Ive just received 7 of the 37 DRK
Seriously if my 30 DRK are lost il doomed Sad

Nobody got an answer ?

Found the blockchain (hard at work)
It seems to net ont yet redeemed but don't know why m'y transaction was divided
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/tx.dws?306103.htm

thelonecrouton

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Quote from: ?? on ??

One can imagine preconfigured Rasberry Pi's with VPN, Tor and Darkcoin software with a big D label sticker on it Grin

Have you ever tried surfing the web on a Pi? Add in a VPN and Tor and you might as well go back to the bronze age... Android phone/apps though, something with a little more hardware horsepower...

Quote from: mannie on May 18, 2014, 09:50:59 PM

My crystal ball look into the future, for anyone interested: http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/comments/25wsmj/the_road_to_1000/

Wink

Apart from the rest of the world suffering more than the US, I think you are absolutely spot on with this. People have no idea just how badly their governments have been screwing up, and screwing them.

Quote from: ?? on ??

If there's anyone here that thinks what happened in Cyprus is a one off, think again. European governments such as the U.K have after the Cyprus event recently put into solid law that HMRC can take ANYONES wealth as they wish a.k.a. BAIL INS. During the next big collapse direct confiscation of wealth from citizens bank accounts will be rampant. Time to convert your assets into diverse crypto cold storage. It's safer than gold which they can also confiscate more easily than cryptos.

Yep, this will probably happen, though it depends how well you bury your gold... Wink

Quote from: child_harold on May 19, 2014, 05:07:43 AM

I am tempted to post a link to a wallet.dat that has 1 DRK in it, and a strong password, and see if anyone can successfully spend that 1 DRK. I'd be betting they couldn't.

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