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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 6111. (Read 9724115 times)

hero member
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damn anybody went all in? Smiley I knew it would be a good idea with wired article in the pipeline, but did not have the balls...

I did. so far these last 7 days, sold at 0.00427, bought back at 0.0031 to 0.0038 , sold at 0.0052, bought back over 14 000 DRK between 0.0026 and 0.003 over 3 days and now I'm hodling again. Really crazy ride. I'm not usually the type to day trade but had to take advantage of some of the spots available with these huge pumps to make some more dark.
sr. member
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In regards to the pools of 10, 100 and 1000DRK, I believe the best solution is to get rid of the pools altogether and just require than the inputs to the pool be larger than the outputs.

For example:
 - John adds 102DRK to the pool, sends 101DRK to Lisa and receives back 1DRK as change.
 - Joe adds 153DRK to the pool, sends 73DRK to Mary and receives back 80DRK as change.

Change will still be denominated, so the 80 DRK would come back as 50,20 and 10DRK.

Hey Simcom did you buy the 7K DRK back yet?
Evan's solution is not perfect but it works if the pool size is large enough and the wallet knows to try to avoid lumping all the change together in subsequent transactions. Still if someone wants to darksend their whole balance they will have essentially no anonymity. There are ways to build in anonymity though - for example if John wants to darksend his whole balance (102 coins), the pool could solicit additional inputs from other pool participants of 102 coins to grant anonymity to John. (i will expand on this in a later post)
To answer your question, yes I bought back at a slight loss but not too bad.  Grin
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legendary
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Heh, a 91 BTC buy wall is what, £25k or something? Peanuts. Wait till we get a couple of inches in the mainstream papers and real money moves in.
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legendary
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At this rate we hit .005 in less than 4 hours. And that is even before the article is out. I guess a quality coin like dark will always meet high demand.

+1 on bringing the new website out

Maybe even 0.01 in the coming week. The rise seems exponential when it happens and we're starting from a higher level than the last one.

what article?

wired
legendary
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DASH is the future of crypto payments!
At this rate we hit .005 in less than 4 hours. And that is even before the article is out. I guess a quality coin like dark will always meet high demand.

+1 on bringing the new website out

Maybe even 0.01 in the coming week. The rise seems exponential when it happens and we're starting from a higher level than the last one.

It`s very probable Kai...
legendary
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Poloniex? They are completely irrelevant, especially to whales (low volume, no one acts according to their prices). You can only "pump" by buying and hope others do as well. You risk buying too high and not being able to sell - like anyone else?
hero member
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At this rate we hit .005 in less than 4 hours. And that is even before the article is out. I guess a quality coin like dark will always meet high demand.

+1 on bringing the new website out

Maybe even 0.01 in the coming week. The rise seems exponential when it happens and we're starting from a higher level than the last one.
legendary
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How does the whale pump thing work exactly? The initial buy orders have hardly been touched. Is the same whale making all the smaller buy orders to drive the price up?

I don`t get it either. Would only make sense if he/she hoping to dump afterwards. In general I am no big believer in whale mythology, I think it`s more people panic buying and then panic selling who drive prices  Wink
A few hours ago there was a dump down to 17.5, volume was 4.6 btc during the dump. It immediately rose back up to where it was. What other than one person trying to cause a panic sell would explain that? a few hours later the price pumps. Sure looks to me like 1 person at work here, who tried to get some cheap coins (which didn't work) before his pump.

0.00175? When? Where? Bitcoimwisdom shows a low at about 0.0026 at cryptsy and mintpal. And what is the logic? Dumping some at low, buying back pricier and then selling now? I simply do not get it. Would be trying to play whale myself if I did :-) I am only smart enough for accumulating for the long term I guess...
It happened on Pol. What would explain that other than someone trying to get coins cheaper before a planned pump?
legendary
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DASH is the future of crypto payments!
0.00175? When? Where? Bitcoimwisdom shows a low at about 0.0026 at cryptsy and mintpal. And what is the logic? Dumping some at low, buying back pricier and then selling now? I simply do not get it. Would be trying to play whale myself if I did :-) I am only smart enough for accumulating for the long term I guess...
Hmmm I have rather bad sense of when selling or when buying, always did it in wrong moment Grin so I`m good at accumulating too... btw. being a gardener makes you become quite calm person, ppl try it Smiley
legendary
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How does the whale pump thing work exactly? The initial buy orders have hardly been touched. Is the same whale making all the smaller buy orders to drive the price up?

I don`t get it either. Would only make sense if he/she hoping to dump afterwards. In general I am no big believer in whale mythology, I think it`s more people panic buying and then panic selling who drive prices  Wink
A few hours ago there was a dump down to 17.5, volume was 4.6 btc during the dump. It immediately rose back up to where it was. What other than one person trying to cause a panic sell would explain that? a few hours later the price pumps. Sure looks to me like 1 person at work here, who tried to get some cheap coins (which didn't work) before his pump.

0.00175? When? Where? Bitcoimwisdom shows a low at about 0.0026 at cryptsy and mintpal. And what is the logic? Dumping some at low, buying back pricier and then selling now? I simply do not get it. Would be trying to play whale myself if I did :-) I am only smart enough for accumulating for the long term I guess...
legendary
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How does the whale pump thing work exactly? The initial buy orders have hardly been touched. Is the same whale making all the smaller buy orders to drive the price up?

I don`t get it either. Would only make sense if he/she hoping to dump afterwards. In general I am no big believer in whale mythology, I think it`s more people panic buying and then panic selling who drive prices  Wink
A few hours ago there was a dump down to 17.5, volume was 4.6 btc during the dump. It immediately rose back up to where it was. What other than one person trying to cause a panic sell would explain that? a few hours later the price pumps. Sure looks to me like 1 person at work here, who tried to get some cheap coins (which didn't work) before his pump.
legendary
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At this rate we hit .005 in less than 4 hours. And that is even before the article is out. I guess a quality coin like dark will always meet high demand.

+1 on bringing the new website out

And again the whales are playing anround with DRK. I hate these crypto thinks from day to day more.
On good news price decline, after getting attacked heayly price goes up like ....

lottery seams to be easier to predict

Dude you are going about it all wrong, fundamentals beat short term swings everytime. Is the Dev team professional and responsive? Yes. Does this coin offer something BTC does not? Yes. Is there a big potential market for anonymous coins? Yes. It is really a no brainer, but you need to buy when other are panic selling, because the value is always there even if people get scared from time to time.
legendary
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I think its an obvious trap. 91 BTC buy at 31500 on Mintpal

 whales dont read whitepapers, so again, a failed incursion.
hero member
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At this rate we hit .005 in less than 4 hours. And that is even before the article is out. I guess a quality coin like dark will always meet high demand.

+1 on bringing the new website out

And again the whales are playing anround with DRK. I hate these crypto thinks from day to day more.
On good news price decline, after getting attacked heayly price goes up like ....

lottery seams to be easier to predict
full member
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I feel like no matter how you denominate pools or break up transactions, we need something in addition to Darksend to provide even greater anonymity. Regardless of how you break up a transaction, blockchain analysis could still pinpoint where coins are coming from and where they are going.

I keep seeing this, but it's simply not true if DarkSend gets a high enough volume of inputs. All coins actually move in the final transaction once all parties sign, at the exact same time (because the master node broadcasts the finalized transaction). If we are using the 100 DRK pool, and there are 20 inputs to it and > 40 outputs, who sent what to where? It's even harder once the change is denominated and sent back to the sender. If 20 people all get change it would be very difficult to say who got what.

Expounding further, if you then use the fabled change pool, sure, all your change addresses move at once, but so do everyone else's who is using the change pool for that block. And this all happens at the exact same time, once again. Now, who owned the change addresses before they were mixed and which output address did they get?

This is what I thought it would/will work like.
If X coins leave a/some addresses, mix, and end up in a/some addresses, and if all the inputs to the pools are of equal value, how would you ever know with certainty where exactly they came from.
I think I'm just further confusing myself by thinking about it too much.  Smiley
hero member
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At this rate we hit .005 in less than 4 hours. And that is even before the article is out. I guess a quality coin like dark will always meet high demand.

+1 on bringing the new website out
hero member
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I feel like no matter how you denominate pools or break up transactions, we need something in addition to Darksend to provide even greater anonymity. Regardless of how you break up a transaction, blockchain analysis could still pinpoint where coins are coming from and where they are going.

I keep seeing this, but it's simply not true if DarkSend gets a high enough volume of inputs. All coins actually move in the final transaction once all parties sign, at the exact same time (because the master node broadcasts the finalized transaction). If we are using the 100 DRK pool, and there are 20 inputs to it and > 40 outputs, who sent what to where? It's even harder once the change is denominated and sent back to the sender. If 20 people all get change it would be very difficult to say who got what.

Expounding further, if you then use the fabled change pool, sure, all your change addresses move at once, but so do everyone else's who is using the change pool for that block. And this all happens at the exact same time, once again. Now, who owned the change addresses before they were mixed and which output address did they get?

It would be theoretically possible to lump change input addresses together by prior transaction number but who controlled the outputs would be unknown.
sr. member
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So we talked about moving from Internet V.4 to V.6...

 

have you tried to order V4-adresses lately?
nope. all gone.

at least in central europe v6 is coming.
(not like "winter is coming - it realy is)

...but you are right. it took us 2 decades.
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