[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 6112.

chompyZ

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Quote from: Simcom on May 03, 2014, 07:15:38 PM

So I have a bit of a confession to make. Maybe you guys already knew this but...

Today I figured out that you cannot darksend 101 coins unless you have 1000 coins in your wallet.

Just to clarify: when you send 101 coins from address A to address B, you submit 1000 coins into the 1000 coin pool, address B recieves 101 and you receive 899 back at a change address C.

Same goes if you want to darkssend 10.1 coins, you need 100 coins in your wallet.

If you want to darksend 1.1 coins you need to have 10 coins in your wallet.

So back to my confession - when I discovered this issue I panicked a bit and sold 7,000 coins and tanked the market Sad

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Now for the good news, if anyone can come up with an ingenious solution to this problem I'll buy back all of these coins in an instant. Put your thinking caps on Grin

So I have a bit of a confession to make. Maybe you guys already knew this but...

Back in the mid 90s, when Internet bubble started to boom, the talk of the town was that within a decade, everything will be connected to the Internet - mobile phones via WAP, TVs, computers, the booming laptop market, PDAs (Personal Digital Assistants), and even refrigerators that will contact your local grocery and order what is missing in the fridge.

The problem was - THERE WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH IP ADDRESSES.

Even when we modeled the use of proxy servers by large organizations, the fact that the internet was moving towards an Always-On + static IPs meant there simply weren't enough IPs.

So we talked about moving from Internet V.4 to V.6...

and guess what - 2 decades later and we are still on the same internet V.4 and all is well.

Analogy - Darkcoin V1 may not be fully anonymous, but it will get there.
We have a good dev, an intelligent community, and patience.
As in the words of Donald Sutherland (Kelly' Heroes) - "There's going to be a bridge... and it's a beautiful bridge..." Grin

panicbuythenpanicsell

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How does the whale pump thing work exactly? The initial buy orders have hardly been touched. Is the same whale making all the smaller buy orders to drive the price up?

georgem

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the DarkCoin rises!

Macno

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Quote from: Kai Proctor on May 04, 2014, 08:54:10 AM

Or neither, maybe he predicts a big rise tomorrow. (I would buy directly)

So it`s impatient and he only now saw that the Wire story is coming.

Joshuar

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Quote from: Kai Proctor on May 04, 2014, 08:54:10 AM

Quote from: megges on May 04, 2014, 08:44:27 AM

hallo mr. whale !
i like your big walls on mintpal and cryptsy

gl with it !

The 98 BTC buying order ? I just saw it.

Quote from: Macno on May 04, 2014, 08:50:42 AM

Is the whale so stupid or just impatient?

Or neither, maybe he predicts a big rise tomorrow. (I would buy directly)

Darkcoin to $4 soon

Kai Proctor

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Quote from: megges on May 04, 2014, 08:44:27 AM

hallo mr. whale !
i like your big walls on mintpal and cryptsy

gl with it !

The 98 BTC buying order ? I just saw it.

Quote from: Macno on May 04, 2014, 08:50:42 AM

Is the whale so stupid or just impatient?

Or neither, maybe he predicts a big rise tomorrow. (I would buy directly)

Minotaur26

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Quote from: eduffield on May 04, 2014, 07:58:35 AM

In regards to the pools of 10, 100 and 1000DRK, I believe the best solution is to get rid of the pools altogether and just require than the inputs to the pool be larger than the outputs.

For example:
- John adds 102DRK to the pool, sends 101DRK to Lisa and receives back 1DRK as change.
- Joe adds 153DRK to the pool, sends 73DRK to Mary and receives back 80DRK as change.

Change will still be denominated, so the 80 DRK would come back as 50,20 and 10DRK.

Hey Simcom did you buy the 7K DRK back yet?

droptable

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the price will rise at Monday.
buying now is not stupid.

btw: darkcoin is #6 again!

Macno

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Is the whale so stupid or just impatient?

megges

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hallo mr. whale !
i like your big walls on mintpal and cryptsy

gl with it !

conf

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Any news about http://drk.coinmine.pl/ ?

daddeo

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Is there to be a transaction fee associated with using DarkSend? If so, what if that fee was taken from one of the denominated change return addresses? This way the change never adds up exactly to the coins sent from A to B.

droptable

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Quote from: eduffield on May 04, 2014, 07:58:35 AM

In regards to the pools of 10, 100 and 1000DRK, I believe the best solution is to get rid of the pools altogether and just require than the inputs to the pool be larger than the outputs.

For example:
- John adds 102DRK to the pool, sends 101DRK to Lisa and receives back 1DRK as change.
- Joe adds 153DRK to the pool, sends 73DRK to Mary and receives back 80DRK as change.

Change will still be denominated, so the 80 DRK would come back as 50,20 and 10DRK.

i like that!

this should obfuscate and is easy to explain to new users ("u need to send a little more and you will get the change back")

// it would be nice to be able to split a transaction over different nodes.

eduffield

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Dash Developer

In regards to the pools of 10, 100 and 1000DRK, I believe the best solution is to get rid of the pools altogether and just require than the inputs to the pool be larger than the outputs.

For example:
- John adds 102DRK to the pool, sends 101DRK to Lisa and receives back 1DRK as change.
- Joe adds 153DRK to the pool, sends 73DRK to Mary and receives back 80DRK as change.

Change will still be denominated, so the 80 DRK would come back as 50,20 and 10DRK.

Cryptocurrency_forum

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Great coin. Way under value right now.
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff122/paladin64/light_zpsadda8e6b.png

GhostPlayer

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Quote from: feeleep on May 04, 2014, 07:14:34 AM

Quote from: GhostPlayer on May 04, 2014, 05:42:09 AM

Great!!

Coinmine went up again briefly, managed to log in to retrieve my friend's earnings.

MINIMUM MANUAL CASH-OUT IS 10 DRKS !! Huh

No mention on the auto-payout, so I went to unlock the editing to set minimum... but they went down again.

This is to encourage users to set up auto payment - I dont want to keep your coins in my wallet. Set up auto for 1 DRK for example and you (and me) will have less problems.

UPDATE on DDOS - they continue to attack our web server (13 hrs in a row), but pools are working fine atm

feeleep

Yes, I managed to get in quick enough to set auto-payout. All is good.

Good luck fighting them off!

flipme

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Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game

Quote from: Honest Tim on May 04, 2014, 06:20:18 AM

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Quote from: Donho on May 03, 2014, 06:54:00 PM

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Quote from: Simcom on May 03, 2014, 02:27:54 PM

Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 03, 2014, 02:10:24 PM

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Quote from: thelonecrouton on May 03, 2014, 01:38:28 PM

Password protecting the goddamn wallet on startup would alleviate the sender-record problem at least.

I never understood why this is not standard.

I've been going on about this since page 600 and you're the only person who's noticed. Cheesy

I'm not even sure what this means to be honest. Are you saying you shouldn't need to manually encrypt wallet and add password, it should prompt for a new password as soon as the wallet launches for the first time?

Not the first time, because you haven't set a password yet, but if you've encrypted your wallet, it should ask you for a password subsequently, before opening up and allowing everyone and anyone to see full records of your transactions. Or copying your .dat and viewing everything you've done later.

You expect to have to enter a password to see your banking online, right? And your email, and your exchange accounts, and just about everything else, for good reason. For an "anonymous" coin, it's a baffling omission.

Hmm, yes that is a good point. I agree a password should be required to see history of transactions. The problem I see is that the more times you input your password the more chances a malicious key-logger has to get your coins. :/ It guess it is a tradeoff.

I wonder if it could be built in to the transaction log tab specifically? Regardless, I would only support the idea if it were a separate pw from the actual wallet pw for just the reason you mention (key loggers).

Like blockchain.info where you can set 2 passwords. One to see your wallets balancee and addresses and stuff and a second one thats necessary for sending coins, generating new addresses etc

Against keyloggers:
How about an on-screen numeric keypad with random order of the numbers?

There's dozens of watertight solutions to this.

Great, so which one would you suggest being implemented.

feeleep

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Quote from: GhostPlayer on May 04, 2014, 05:42:09 AM

Great!!

Coinmine went up again briefly, managed to log in to retrieve my friend's earnings.

MINIMUM MANUAL CASH-OUT IS 10 DRKS !! Huh

No mention on the auto-payout, so I went to unlock the editing to set minimum... but they went down again.

This is to encourage users to set up auto payment - I dont want to keep your coins in my wallet. Set up auto for 1 DRK for example and you (and me) will have less problems.

UPDATE on DDOS - they continue to attack our web server (13 hrs in a row), but pools are working fine atm

feeleep

GhostPlayer

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Quote from: mannie on May 04, 2014, 06:44:43 AM

Dark Wallet has a new website: http://darkwallet.is/

Devs, can we put up the temp website in place of the current one? Here's the new temp one: http://darkcoinsample.hostoi.com/

We need people to know there's a decentralized alternative to using Dark Wallet. And we need to get a new website up before that Wired article comes out.

haha !! Dark-Shwallet.

But yeah, better tech does NOT guarantee success!! We need to brand Darkcoin and get it out ASAP, and yeah, before Wired is a MUST!
Network effect is at play there... create a hype and people will follow, even if it is unsatable and unsafe.

Great opportunity to "expose" Dark Wallet's shortcomings to the mass audience, while immediately offering a solution! puuurrrrrfekt!

A Wired article and the website are GOLD right now! Do not underestimate the network effect.

mannie

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Dark Wallet has a new website: http://darkwallet.is/

Devs, can we put up the temp website in place of the current one? Here's the new temp one: http://darkcoinsample.hostoi.com/

We need people to know there's a decentralized alternative to using Dark Wallet. And we need to get a new website up before that Wired article comes out.

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