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legendary
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I am out of sync on win 7 X64

stuck on block 46226

last night it emerged,please help me!!

my wallet version v0.9.1.1-unk-beta

Try updating to : http://darkcoin.io/downloads/darkcoin-qt.exe
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I am out of sync on win 7 X64

stuck on block 46226

last night it emerged,please help me!!

my wallet version v0.9.1.1-unk-beta
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Investors are moving from dying Dogecoin to  Darkcoin. They are specially injected panic around coins to reduce its price to be bought.

are you sure?I dont think so Sad
legendary
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Looks like a lot of you have got your knickers in a bunch over the suggestion of an airdrop. Just because it has been put up for a vote, does not mean it will be implemented. I'm pretty sure Evan will not go through with it based on the comments coming through. The only people who seem to be in favour have come out of the woodwork to support the idea. I

Yeah, it really says something about community went people panic sell over an poll.  Hey, cheap coins for those of us that don't have weak hands.

If anyone was thinking they want to run a masternode, it's a decent opportunity to grab 1000DRK.  I'll be releasing the code tomorrow to launch your masternode and we'll hard fork in the next 4 weeks to begin payments.

Is that the final number Evan?  

While I have enough for a few nodes, wouldn't you think 250 or maybe 500DRK a bit more reasonable?  Even considering the technical knowledge one is expected to have in order to run a node.  

Also, is the final number going to be scaled against price so that the cost in fiat to run a masternode stays roughly constant?

The point of them is to make it very expensive to acquire them. Imagine the following:

A:
- User asks "Should I create a masternode?"
- it costs $XXX, they would earn $X.XX/day. That's X days till they earn 100% of their investment.
- User buys 1000 DRK, creates masternode
- Price goes higher, 1000DRK gets pulled out of the supply
- Go to A

This is a feedback loop that I'm creating. We should add masternodes until the price goes really high and it's too expensive to buy the darkcoin to start a masternode.  

Let's say after the feedback loop completes the price of Darkcoin is $5 and we have 1200 nodes. At that point we have six million dollar in masternodes, to gain 50% of the network to do an attack would probably cost much more than six million dollars, so it's not possible anymore.

The other problem is all nodes need to keep a list of all of the masternodes. We want a bunch, but we don't want more than 10k probably. If the requirement is too low we'll end up with a bunch of network traffic from all of the discovery chatter.
legendary
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Now that the air cleared (no pun intended), let's focus on 2 areas which a lot of member suggested.

1) Darksend

Clearly this is mostly on Evan's shoulder, with us participating in testing and AnonyMint sparking healthy discussion

2) Marketing

We're a community, so if you feel like part of it, please help. Let us know which area and how much can you do.

Please quote this part of the post, add the name / area.
We need a marketing leader who could coordinate/steer efforts / gather donations for professionals etc (if LimLim is not keen on that).
We need press releases, photo/video ads, case studies, social sites managers etc.
I'll start.

luke997 - co-create/proof read/distribute press releases, case studies


P.S. It wouldn't harm to agree and draft a standard, factual reply with the answer to the 24/48h for the ones who come from time to time and ask it.

I'm writing a framework for PR. Looking for comments and edits.

Plan, I suggest, should be to put it out in stages on the run up to the zerocash launch in May.  For whatever reason they have been highlighted as the benchmark without having anything viable to show and the lead guy, Matthew Green, saying it could all go wrong. The problem is that the press machines will start to work to the Zerocash launch window, so we have to work around that.

I think we as a group who own dark at this point can collectively make a lot of money. The benchmark for value should be $1bn. that will get people talking, wondering and focus our dark holders efforts.

We should protect the devs team from noise and start to use social media to get the name darkcoin, darksend and internet cash slowly into wider conciousness. That doesn't mean spam marketing. That means carefully slipping the concept into the streams of conversations.

Using professional help on branding and marketing - name the current winner of the logo comp; and then bank some of the donations until the value of darkcoin hits $20m. Then we can have a milestone rethink about what it needs to get us to $50m, $100m and $1bn. The donations will be worth a lot more at $20m and that buys a lot more and better quality.

EDIT

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reduction from 80million to 20million

this was a horrible move.

not only it did not increase the price

it actually made the unfair-distribution-of-coins situation worse.

now the early miners are at even more advantage.

the coin numbers should be increased to 160 million to dilute the excess-early-mine issue.

great tech guys but when it comes to economy they are pretty much retarded.

I've been thinking about the supply issue since the reward reduction went into effect, and I know Evan has an economics background (and I don't) so I'll pose this question:

Darkcoin has a number of innovative features, including the ability to adjust rewards based on difficulty. So you have an intelligent network at that rudimentary level. Would it not be possible to code a more demand-based max coin limit?

* It seems to me that any ceiling set in a tech-related field eventually becomes a liability. Anyone remember 640k limits? the Y2K "bug"?

* There is still an ongoing hubub about the unfair initial distribution of the coin. Whether it is really unfair or not, the complaint, and apparently the perception, remains.

* In 20 years, if things go as we all hope, it is quite possible that we will need a larger supply to deal with the demand. But how much? And how will it be decided?

Would it be possible for the network to adjust to an combination of inputs, such as an increasing demand + decreasing hash rate by allowing more coins to be created, but in a way that is both transparent, rational, and pre-programmed? If everyone involved knew the rules far in advance, it would further enhance this coin by increasing the stability and its use as a store of value.
legendary
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reduction from 80million to 20million

this was a horrible move.

not only it did not increase the price

it actually made the unfair-distribution-of-coins situation worse.

now the early miners are at even more advantage.

the coin numbers should be increased to 160 million to dilute the excess-early-mine issue.

great tech guys but when it comes to economy they are pretty much retarded.

Calling someone retarded doesn't validate your "opinion".  
hero member
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reduction from 80million to 20million

this was a horrible move.

not only it did not increase the price

it actually made the unfair-distribution-of-coins situation worse.

now the early miners are at even more advantage.

the coin numbers should be increased to 160 million to dilute the excess-early-mine issue.

great tech guys but when it comes to economy they are pretty much retarded.

The price as well as the volume at the exchanges has changed very little comparing before and after this change(this was done a while ago mind you). DRK has been one of the most consistent coins in terms of price in the last few weeks while other popular ones like Doge have fallen.

Take your panic elsewhere.
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reduction from 80million to 20million

this was a horrible move.

not only it did not increase the price

it actually made the unfair-distribution-of-coins situation worse.

now the early miners are at even more advantage.

the coin numbers should be increased to 160 million to dilute the excess-early-mine issue.

great tech guys but when it comes to economy they are pretty much retarded.

There is no unfair distribution situation.
Early miners have dumped what they mined already. They have been early - profited, good for them.
Many already posted proofs of that. Early sales, largest wallets etc. If anyone from the early days had considerable amount, would have dumped it already at > @ 0.002 and walked away loaded. That didn't happen.

There was always enough volume to buy, when DRKs bought with the stolen BTC got dumped - all got buyers.
Couple days ago someone put 84BTC buy wall - guess what - no dump.

Coins have been distributed and no more dilution is necessary - it will only cause price drop.
legendary
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reduction from 80million to 20million

this was a horrible move.

not only it did not increase the price

it actually made the unfair-distribution-of-coins situation worse.

now the early miners are at even more advantage.

the coin numbers should be increased to 160 million to dilute the excess-early-mine issue.

great tech guys but when it comes to economy they are pretty much retarded.
hero member
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Also, is the final number going to be scaled against price so that the cost in fiat to run a masternode stays roughly constant?

I don't think scaling to price is feasible -- scaling to diff might be a good idea though, because 1000 DRK could mean anything in a year from now.

That could mean 1000 * $1000.  Grin
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Also, is the final number going to be scaled against price so that the cost in fiat to run a masternode stays roughly constant?

I don't think scaling to price is feasible -- scaling to diff might be a good idea though, because 1000 DRK could mean anything in a year from now.
legendary
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If anyone was thinking they want to run a masternode, it's a decent opportunity to grab 1000DRK.  I'll be releasing the code tomorrow to launch your masternode and we'll hard fork in the next 4 weeks to begin payments.

This + cheap Darks (thanks those who contributed  Grin ) = my stash even bigger

I have to say though, Darks price resiliency to news/dumps attempts never ceases to amaze me.
That tells a lot.
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I am also out of sync on win 8 64

stuck on block 45001

Same as above  Wink
Give it a try

yeah Im good now, this wallet gets a lot of updates

Indeed   Cheesy
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I am also out of sync on win 8 64

stuck on block 45001

Same as above  Wink
Give it a try
Ir worked, back in business Smiley
Thanks.
hero member
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I am also out of sync on win 8 64

stuck on block 45001

Same as above  Wink
Give it a try

yeah Im good now, this wallet gets a lot of updates
hero member
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Looks like a lot of you have got your knickers in a bunch over the suggestion of an airdrop. Just because it has been put up for a vote, does not mean it will be implemented. I'm pretty sure Evan will not go through with it based on the comments coming through. The only people who seem to be in favour have come out of the woodwork to support the idea. I

Yeah, it really says something about community went people panic sell over an poll.  Hey, cheap coins for those of us that don't have weak hands.

If anyone was thinking they want to run a masternode, it's a decent opportunity to grab 1000DRK.  I'll be releasing the code tomorrow to launch your masternode and we'll hard fork in the next 4 weeks to begin payments.

Is that the final number?  

While I have enough for a few nodes, wouldn't you think 250 or maybe 500DRK a bit more reasonable?  Even considering the technical knowledge one is expected to have in order to run a node.  

Also, is the final number going to be scaled against price so that the cost in fiat to run a masternode stays roughly constant?
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Well well... I go away for a week and 60 more pages on the thread... Smiley

I'm glad the airdrop idea is off the table - and I'm glad we will be moving that much closer to Darksend implementation...
member
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I am also out of sync on win 8 64

stuck on block 45001

Same as above  Wink
Give it a try
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