Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 6444. (Read 9723858 times)

if you can squeeze more out of the miner, your most welcome, im running it with -Ofast -march=native -funroll-loops - on linux someone experimented with gcc 4.9 and got a bit more power out of it, optimizations are not always "just" the code, its also alot to do with how well the compiler converts the source into executable code.

you keep implying that someone on the dev team is using "secret" unavailable miners to mine, well, believe what you want, people NOT connected to the devs have optimised the miners, use it, mine darkcoin, or mine something else, thats all up to you.

besides, using 6 out of 8 is 75% utilization of your cpu

He's actually the only one who has reported <100% cpu use. What he said about non-optimized clients are also "weird". A non-optimized client doesn't run at <100% cpu unless one specifies less threads etc. Instead it runs at 100% cpu but provides less hashpower. That's the way it goes. Optimization is really about making the cpu calculate something in less cpu cycles, not about how much you "load" the cpu with processing task. That's a given that it's always 100%, even at "idle priorities".

It depends on what you "need them" for. If you want to take a risk in a single-point-of-failure approach, you can. If you want to improve your security, you can also. If you want to use the same tech as other coins, you can. If you want to differentiate yourself, you can also.


You are currently using like the 4th optimized version for this. The original miner was like 20 khash per thread on a wolfdale 2.4 and now I'm running on 41kh (sse2 only, no aes/avx).


3x?

LTC (1mhash scrypt) is doing 0.0051 BTC per day (theoretical),
VTC is doing 0.0048 (at 450 kh scrypt N) (theoretical)
DRK is doing 3x scrypt (3 MHs) x 0.85 DRKs x 0.00142 = 0.0036

If you have older series cards, like 5xxx and 6xxx series it's possible to get 3.8x scrypt rather than 3x-3.3x hashrate over scrypt (=0.004586 profit)

If I factor the power cost, it's like 0.25$ /kwh here and if I need say 200w for DRK / 400w for scrypt, then I have a +4.8kw extra cost over a day (-1.2$, or -0.0024 BTC). So DRK ends up being more profitable.

I really can't see where numbers like "3x more profitable" come from. Even without factoring power cost, 3x is nowhere to be found. More like a few %.


Do you see anyone making suggestions here that you should buy DRK and that it'll go to the moon? Go to other threads and you'll see plenty of that crap, hype and people whining for losing their money.

The fundamentals of privacy are pretty clear, from an investment point of view: The transparent market is 10 bn market cap. The anonymous market is 3-4 mn market cap (1mn anoncoin / 3mn darkcoin). If even 1% of the transparent market moves to the private market, you have 100mn market cap right there. Whether it is spread over darkcoin, zerocoin, anononcoin or 5 of their clones, it doesn't really matter. When you have one option (transparency) and a new option is presented (privacy), the monopoly is broken and the growth potential of the new option (which could not be exercised up to now, forcing everyone to the monopoly-option of transparency) is "significant".


1. No 32 bit mining client. Coins which play well on 32 & 64 bit systems are better for botnets.
2. GPU mining. CPU-only coins are the better option for botnets.

Obviously they weren't fully optimized then, guess I was one of the lucky ones who get's full cpu usage.

Please fill me in, I'd like to know which coin this one is a clone of.

The reason for all the algos is to make it as asic resistant as possible.  It's trying to buy time for a smoother growth transition.  If we were to have started off with script, we would have been 6 months old before ASICs hit the scene, and it would have just been a huge dump of mining power all of a sudden.

The idea is the more algorithms, the harder, more involved it is to make the ASIC.  That plus having a new algorithm also slows down the adaption.  There needs to be a critical mass of users before making an ASIC is profitable.

You ask good questions.  It's hard to see why Evan has done all the things he has done from first glance but he did have his reasons, though I'm sure not all of them turned out the way he had hoped

I do agree with you on finding the most profitable coin to mine.  Being that I just mine here due to laziness and to support the network, I really don't know how we hold up against other coins.  However, I do understand our hash rate is about 2.5 x higher with X11 and the difficulty is also about 2.5 times as high as script, so these numbers according to what other people say, make mining darkcoin comparable to script.  But like  I said, I don't know.

RE: First anonymous coin?  Where is there another, actually functioning anonymous coin?  Ours is still in closed source beta but it's working, you can download it and use it right now.  I know of no other coin that has a decentralized trustless solution like DarkSend.  Not that isn't still in the planning stages, and certainly not one that is as practical, lightweight and effective.

This coin has over 10,000 lines of new code.  Even when Darksend is open sourced, it's so interwoven into the wallet, it will take someone of skill to extract it and implement it into their own wallet.

You should take a little time to read the white paper linked on the first page.

How many algos are even needed ? You can actually remove some in Quark and SRC and all their clones and still submit 100 perfect shares at a faster hash rate.
as i found out optimizing the hashing algo's this coin is cloned from lol
and guys have been optimizing them such as Unclebob and Neklizar and other guys.. some knowledge about what goes on in the scene would help guys lol

you know what since VTC has dropped so hard in price and become flooded with new miners and has been out for ages (December) and yet is STILL more profitable (almost 3x)
i should mine some VTC or what ever else and simply BUY Dark coins if i am doing it "because they will be sooooo much more evaluable later" LOL
Which i am not

lets here your response to that lol

edit:
the topic title is bs too.. First Anonymous Coin ? bs.
ASIC Resistant ? ya it's not scrypt so anything not scrypt or sha256 is..
and what is it then ? PRO-Botnet.
but hey lets spin as much bs about it as we can right ?

This coin was clearly based of some other coins (cloned) that suffer from some extreme Botnet problems.. when is that problem going to be fixed ?

i am and know lots about it i have experimented with GCC/MingW flags etc for almost a year compiling cpu miners for QRK /SRC etc (as lots of people know)
and darkCoin-cpuminer-1.3 came with 5 optimized builds so no excuse..

Yes, I think we need someone to take the torch and optimize more of the algorithms in the miners.  Not being a programmer, I'm assuming that the 11 algorithms are only partially optimized.

And yah well, we think privacy is really important, so I guess it's worth it for us

This coin runs better on lower intensity.  Try -I 14 and work your way up.  I doubt you'll go over 16 before you start getting HW errors

https://i.imgur.com/uILQz6Q.png

https://i.imgur.com/46wBDDh.png

https://i.imgur.com/7yN0cEX.png



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My current cpu usage mining DRK. Looks like you're not running the miner optimized for your cpu. I had the same problem.

So no not an accident just lack of research.

Did you ever try this ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5857809

my msi 270x use this conf got too much hw,why?

Don't worry, the price will rise.
This is a very promising market, although the experience blow, I believe prices will rise a certain!

ya i figured that and i will prob mine it a bit..i have a few idle cpu's i can use the fastest being my desktop Intel core i7 4770k
although i don't see too much of a future for the coin to be honest.. any so called new features here are not enough for an impact i think.
and i highly suggest the OP put a link to GPU miners on page one for credibility reasons alone.
Otherwise it looks like the coin is being pushed as a cpu only coin when it's not like on that CPU only coins list topic.

and i don't pay for electricity so whether it uses less or not i couldn't care less lol
watching my CPU cores i see only partial usage too so that may explain the lower usage..
on average they are using 80% of my cores / threads i am testing 6 threads out of 8 leaving two idle for support for cgminer
and i am seeing between 65 and 87% fluctuating.. so maybe scrypt miners are simply coded to be more efficient ? accident ? lol

If it's a bug, it's not effecting me.  I am using 10 Sapphire R9 290 Tri-x and have no problem keeping hashrate. I run a solid hash of 2.5xx on 8 of my cards.  Combined WU of 0.174/m.  The other 2 have always ran a little slower at 2.3xx-2.4xx.  I run these cards non-stop and have never had a hashrate drop.

My setup:

Two rigs with 5 Sapphire 290's model # 11227-00-4G
Each with dual supernova 1000 g2 psu
Windows 8.1 Enterprise
Running sgminer 4.1.0-85-gccc7d (have also used the sph-sgminer but moved to this other version because some of the dashboard wasn't working right)

"gpu-platform" : "1",
"device" : "0,1,2,3,4",

"kernel" : "darkcoin",

"gpu-threads" : "2",
"gpu-engine" : "1050",
"gpu-memclock" : "1375",
"gpu-powertune" : "20",

"intensity" : "20",
"thread-concurrency" : "25601",
"worksize" : "128",
"lookup-gap" : "2",

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