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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 6537. (Read 9723858 times)

legendary
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Doesn't have to be political. I just used it as an example. Whatever we can come up with that will gain us some good exposure with media etc.
sr. member
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1xbit.com
Good point, I'll get rid of that pool bounty.

I'm not sure about bounties for political stunts. We'd have to consider whether political positions are better expressed officially or personally.
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
Latest Bounties as at 19th March   
   
Fundraiser Donation Address: Xc8xGSP7FwWGPQpgw298z7NYdA8xJK8ooh   
Total bounty donations: 2344 DRK.   
Note: Bounties and amounts are subject to change. As more is donated to the pool, the bounty amounts will go up. Feedback welcome!   
   
*** PLEASE NOTE: Translation bounties will apply only to the new website, which is not yet launched! Expect it to be launched within a couple weeks. ***   
   
Bounty (DRK)   Description
261.69   New website design (using existing content; community will select the winner)
261.69   Professional vectorised logo, header & branded art (community will select the winner)
130.85   Chinese language translation of website
78.51   * Russian language translation of website
0.00   Spanish translation of website
52.34   Professionally produced infographic of darksend, reference: http://imgur.com/GXPvNgn
39.25   explain darksend in layman's terms in 2-5 sentences (we'll pick the best)
39.25   reddit tipbot working in all major subreddits (at least top 100 by subscribers)
39.25   absolute beginner's guide to getting started with darkcoin (using wallet, screenshots)
65.42   Get everything working on mac (all recent versions of OS), including instructions
0.00   Get darkcoin support included in the official BAMT release
111.22   Professional grade video explaining darkcoin & darksend
130.85   Feature article at CoinDesk, Bitcoin Magazine, Forbes or Money Week
52.34   First new pool launched from 11th Mar to reach 1GH
39.25   Darkcoin related facebook acocunt with 100+ followers
39.25   Darkcoin related Google+ acocunt with 100+ followers
130.85   * First ATM accepting Darkcoin
26.17   * Comprehensive media mailing list
196.27   * Optimise CUDAMiner to at least 70% of AMD cards' X11 performance relative to scrypt
45.80   * Accurate mining profitability calculator, including hashrate & power draw of common cards
45.80   * New CSS theme for /r/drkcoin subreddit, matching darkcoin.us/io (we'll pick the best submission)
196.27   * First decentralised exchange supporting DRK, trading some significant volume
361.69   * Android wallet, darksend compatible, open source
--------------------------   
Total donated: 2344 DRK   
   
* Newly added   
   
Notes for CUDAMiner bounty: If a R9 280x gets 2100 kh/s in X11 and 750 kh/s in scrypt (a ratio of 2.Cool, X11 cudaminer performance should achieve at least: 0.7 * 2.8 = 1.96 times Nvidia CUDAMiner scrypt performance   

Totally disagree with that !

Who else is in ?


You should replace it by "P2Pool Network bigger than 2GH" and send it to Chaeplin, creator of the P2Pool-DRK Fork !!!

Big Pool is a huge mistake, P2Pool is decentralised, can't be hacked, and belongs no one !

Its sad to see this bounty is still available. I also mentioned that 2 weeks ago:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5647332


Needs to be removed imo and funds distributed into other tasks.

We also should consider another fund for "Big" marketing items that will gain a large amount of media exposure in the future. i.e Snowden or Assange or some kind of stunt
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 505
Latest Bounties as at 19th March   
   
Fundraiser Donation Address: Xc8xGSP7FwWGPQpgw298z7NYdA8xJK8ooh   
Total bounty donations: 2344 DRK.   
Note: Bounties and amounts are subject to change. As more is donated to the pool, the bounty amounts will go up. Feedback welcome!   
   
*** PLEASE NOTE: Translation bounties will apply only to the new website, which is not yet launched! Expect it to be launched within a couple weeks. ***   
   
Bounty (DRK)   Description
261.69   New website design (using existing content; community will select the winner)
261.69   Professional vectorised logo, header & branded art (community will select the winner)
130.85   Chinese language translation of website
78.51   * Russian language translation of website
0.00   Spanish translation of website
52.34   Professionally produced infographic of darksend, reference: http://imgur.com/GXPvNgn
39.25   explain darksend in layman's terms in 2-5 sentences (we'll pick the best)
39.25   reddit tipbot working in all major subreddits (at least top 100 by subscribers)
39.25   absolute beginner's guide to getting started with darkcoin (using wallet, screenshots)
65.42   Get everything working on mac (all recent versions of OS), including instructions
0.00   Get darkcoin support included in the official BAMT release
111.22   Professional grade video explaining darkcoin & darksend
130.85   Feature article at CoinDesk, Bitcoin Magazine, Forbes or Money Week
52.34   First new pool launched from 11th Mar to reach 1GH
39.25   Darkcoin related facebook acocunt with 100+ followers
39.25   Darkcoin related Google+ acocunt with 100+ followers
130.85   * First ATM accepting Darkcoin
26.17   * Comprehensive media mailing list
196.27   * Optimise CUDAMiner to at least 70% of AMD cards' X11 performance relative to scrypt
45.80   * Accurate mining profitability calculator, including hashrate & power draw of common cards
45.80   * New CSS theme for /r/drkcoin subreddit, matching darkcoin.us/io (we'll pick the best submission)
196.27   * First decentralised exchange supporting DRK, trading some significant volume
361.69   * Android wallet, darksend compatible, open source
--------------------------   
Total donated: 2344 DRK   
   
* Newly added   
   
Notes for CUDAMiner bounty: If a R9 280x gets 2100 kh/s in X11 and 750 kh/s in scrypt (a ratio of 2.Cool, X11 cudaminer performance should achieve at least: 0.7 * 2.8 = 1.96 times Nvidia CUDAMiner scrypt performance   

Totally disagree with that !

Who else is in ?


You should replace it by "P2Pool Network bigger than 2GH" and send it to Chaeplin, creator of the P2Pool-DRK Fork !!!

Big Pool is a huge mistake, P2Pool is decentralised, can't be hacked, and belongs no one !

Its sad to see this bounty is still available. I also mentioned that 2 weeks ago:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5647332
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
Latest Bounties as at 19th March   
   
Fundraiser Donation Address: Xc8xGSP7FwWGPQpgw298z7NYdA8xJK8ooh   
Total bounty donations: 2344 DRK.   
Note: Bounties and amounts are subject to change. As more is donated to the pool, the bounty amounts will go up. Feedback welcome!   
   
*** PLEASE NOTE: Translation bounties will apply only to the new website, which is not yet launched! Expect it to be launched within a couple weeks. ***   
   
Bounty (DRK)   Description
261.69   New website design (using existing content; community will select the winner)
261.69   Professional vectorised logo, header & branded art (community will select the winner)
130.85   Chinese language translation of website
78.51   * Russian language translation of website
0.00   Spanish translation of website
52.34   Professionally produced infographic of darksend, reference: http://imgur.com/GXPvNgn
39.25   explain darksend in layman's terms in 2-5 sentences (we'll pick the best)
39.25   reddit tipbot working in all major subreddits (at least top 100 by subscribers)
39.25   absolute beginner's guide to getting started with darkcoin (using wallet, screenshots)
65.42   Get everything working on mac (all recent versions of OS), including instructions
0.00   Get darkcoin support included in the official BAMT release
111.22   Professional grade video explaining darkcoin & darksend
130.85   Feature article at CoinDesk, Bitcoin Magazine, Forbes or Money Week
52.34   First new pool launched from 11th Mar to reach 1GH
39.25   Darkcoin related facebook acocunt with 100+ followers
39.25   Darkcoin related Google+ acocunt with 100+ followers
130.85   * First ATM accepting Darkcoin
26.17   * Comprehensive media mailing list
196.27   * Optimise CUDAMiner to at least 70% of AMD cards' X11 performance relative to scrypt
45.80   * Accurate mining profitability calculator, including hashrate & power draw of common cards
45.80   * New CSS theme for /r/drkcoin subreddit, matching darkcoin.us/io (we'll pick the best submission)
196.27   * First decentralised exchange supporting DRK, trading some significant volume
361.69   * Android wallet, darksend compatible, open source
--------------------------   
Total donated: 2344 DRK   
   
* Newly added   
   
Notes for CUDAMiner bounty: If a R9 280x gets 2100 kh/s in X11 and 750 kh/s in scrypt (a ratio of 2.Cool, X11 cudaminer performance should achieve at least: 0.7 * 2.8 = 1.96 times Nvidia CUDAMiner scrypt performance   

Totally disagree with that !

Who else is in ?


You should replace it by "P2Pool Network bigger than 2GH" and send it to Chaeplin, creator of the P2Pool-DRK Fork !!!

Big Pool is a huge mistake, P2Pool is decentralised, can't be hacked, and belongs to no one !

Everybody can set a new Node even on their own computer if they want.
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
Hi everyone, I've had a go at the "absolute beginner's guide to getting started with darkcoin (using wallet, screenshots)" bounty

Here it is: http://darkcoinguide.us/

I have some more stuff I still want to add, and will do so in the next few days. I'm open to suggestions, so you can contact me here or email me at [email protected].

Looks great to me. Can you PM me your wallet address?

Good work !
sr. member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 272
1xbit.com
Latest Bounties as at 7th May   
   
Fundraiser Donation Address: Xc8xGSP7FwWGPQpgw298z7NYdA8xJK8ooh   
Total bounty donations: 2344 DRK.   
Note: Bounties and amounts are subject to change. As more is donated to the pool, the bounty amounts will go up. Feedback welcome!   
   
*** PLEASE NOTE: Translation bounties will apply only to the new website, which is not yet launched! Expect it to be launched within a couple weeks. ***   
   
Bounty (DRK)   Description
272.00   New website design (using existing content; community will select the winner)
272.00   Professional vectorised logo, header & branded art (community will select the winner)
136.00   Chinese language translation of website
81.60   * Russian language translation of website
0.00   Spanish translation of website
54.40   Professionally produced infographic of darksend, reference: http://imgur.com/GXPvNgn
40.80   explain darksend in layman's terms in 2-5 sentences (we'll pick the best)
40.80   reddit tipbot working in all major subreddits (at least top 100 by subscribers)
40.80   absolute beginner's guide to getting started with darkcoin (using wallet, screenshots)
34.00   Get everything working on mac (all recent versions of OS), including instructions
0.00   Get darkcoin support included in the official BAMT release
115.60   Professional grade video explaining darkcoin & darksend
136.00   Feature article at CoinDesk, Bitcoin Magazine, Forbes or Money Week
40.80   Darkcoin related facebook acocunt with 100+ followers
40.80   Darkcoin related Google+ acocunt with 100+ followers
136.00   * First ATM accepting Darkcoin
27.20   * Comprehensive media mailing list
204.00   * Optimise CUDAMiner to at least 70% of AMD cards' X11 performance relative to scrypt
47.60   * Accurate mining profitability calculator, including hashrate & power draw of common cards
47.60   * New CSS theme for /r/drkcoin subreddit, matching darkcoin.us/io (we'll pick the best submission)
204.00   * First decentralised exchange supporting DRK, trading some significant volume
372.00   * Android wallet, darksend compatible, open source
--------------------------   
Total donated: 2344 DRK   
   
* Newly added   
   
Notes for CUDAMiner bounty: If a R9 280x gets 2100 kh/s in X11 and 750 kh/s in scrypt (a ratio of 2.Cool, X11 cudaminer performance should achieve at least: 0.7 * 2.8 = 1.96 times Nvidia CUDAMiner scrypt performance   
sr. member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 272
1xbit.com
Hi everyone, I've had a go at the "absolute beginner's guide to getting started with darkcoin (using wallet, screenshots)" bounty

Here it is: http://darkcoinguide.us/

I have some more stuff I still want to add, and will do so in the next few days. I'm open to suggestions, so you can contact me here or email me at [email protected].

Looks great to me. Can you PM me your wallet address?
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Latest Bounties as at 17th March   
   
Fundraiser Donation Address: Xc8xGSP7FwWGPQpgw298z7NYdA8xJK8ooh   
Total bounty donations: 2244 DRK.   
Note: Bounties and amounts are subject to change. As more is donated to the pool, the bounty amounts will go up. Feedback welcome!   
   
*** PLEASE NOTE: Translation bounties will apply only to the new website, which is not yet launched! Expect it to be launched within a couple weeks. ***   
   
Bounty (DRK)   Description
234.36   New website design (using existing content; community will select the winner)
234.36   Professional vectorised logo, header & branded art (community will select the winner)
117.18   Chinese language translation of website
70.31   * Russian language translation of website
0.00   Spanish translation of website
46.87   Professionally produced infographic of darksend, reference: http://imgur.com/GXPvNgn
35.15   Reddit submission with a positive darkcoin message  with 100+ upvotes
117.18   get us listed on btc-e
35.15   explain darksend in layman's terms in 2-5 sentences (we'll pick the best)
58.59   reddit tipbot working in all major subreddits (at least top 100 by subscribers)
35.15   absolute beginner's guide to getting started with darkcoin (using wallet, screenshots)
58.59   Get everything working on mac (all recent versions of OS), including instructions
58.59   Get darkcoin support included in the official BAMT release
99.60   Professional grade video explaining darkcoin & darksend
117.18   Article at CoinDesk, Bitcoin Magazine, Forbes or Money Week
46.87   First new pool launched from 11th Mar to reach 1GH
35.15   Facebook acocunt with 100+ followers
35.15   Google+ acocunt with 100+ followers
117.18   * First ATM accepting Darkcoin
23.44   * Comprehensive media mailing list
175.77   * Optimise CUDAMiner to at least 70% of AMD cards' X11 performance relative to scrypt
41.01   * Accurate mining profitability calculator, including hashrate & power draw of common cards
41.01   * New CSS theme for /r/drkcoin subreddit, matching darkcoin.us/io (we'll pick the best submission)
175.77   * First decentralised exchange supporting DRK, trading some significant volume
334.36   * Android wallet, darksend compatible, open source
--------------------------   
Total donated: 2344 DRK   
   
* Newly added   
   
Notes for CUDAMiner bounty: If a R9 280x gets 2100 kh/s in X11 and 750 kh/s in scrypt (a ratio of 2.Cool, X11 cudaminer performance should achieve at least: 0.7 * 2.8 = 1.96 times Nvidia CUDAMiner scrypt performance   

Hi everyone, I've had a go at the "absolute beginner's guide to getting started with darkcoin (using wallet, screenshots)" bounty

Here it is: http://darkcoinguide.us/

I have some more stuff I still want to add, and will do so in the next few days. I'm open to suggestions, so you can contact me here or email me at [email protected].
legendary
Activity: 1036
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Is there no new beta version with darksend available? Latest version from beta download page is still v0.8.9.6.
Bump

Next beta that Evan releases is a bigger update I think which requires more time to code/test etc.
full member
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Is there no new beta version with darksend available? Latest version from beta download page is still v0.8.9.6.
Bump
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The Future Of Work
sr. member
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coinmine.pl about 60% hash rate

Yeah, this is really a problem for the coin. If I was just now looking at getting into this coin a situation like this would scare me away. Since Coinmine will not cooperate and raise fees like it has been suggested, it is up to us miners.

MOVE YOUR HASH! 
Such Pool  (dark.suchpool.pw)
Lottery Mining (lotterymining.com)
The Official Pool  (www.drkpool.com)

These are all just as stable as Coinmine. Also there is P2P and some lesser known pools if you prefer those. Let's do our part and secure the network! DRK has nearly everything going for it -- let's not let a issue like this drag down the coin.

yeah, that what we as miners should do right now - it's our responsibility!

secure the network by distributing your hash-power - what is the great goal for mining at a stable pool like coinmine, when an attack happens - then there is a great turbulence with DRK
do you want to have such desaster?

i personally mine at P2P-pool and lotterymining
legendary
Activity: 1036
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Vault of satoshi asked about which coin to add. I think we should reply with constructive posts. Not just "add DRK " or "Darkcoin <3" etc

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vault-of-satoshi-asks-what-coins-do-you-want-to-see-519658

Can we all please support this?

Done  Smiley
legendary
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without encryption, a determined attacker can extract at least partial information from every darksend. Even with encryption you still have to worry about timing attacks and knapsacking attacks. Over time higher and higher probabilities will be obtained. However, this is not something an ordinary person would have to worry about.

.....

DRK is the coin that provides anonymity for the ordinary people. So you dont have to worry about your neighbors snooping on your finances. So people wont find out about stuff they have no business finding out about!

Anything that can be done manually can also be automated if it doesn't involve too much human judgement. What I mean by that is that if a determined attacker has a way to tell that A went to B after thorough "investigation" into a transaction, you can't be really certain that this is good enough for the average Joe either. It would seem that it is (using the rationale "ok, who will do this kind of thorough investigation, time after time, for every transaction") but it is not.

As I see it, if the analysis process can be done with a relative degree of confidence, then it's simply a matter of scripting to automate the procedure of understanding one transaction and do it with other transactions. And that will be done without the manual-effort cost concern which would otherwise protect most people, since it will be done automatically.

Once this is done, you'll have the obfuscated blockchain and another site which is running a script and analyzes, in somewhat-realtime (perhaps lagging a few blocks to allow for the mixing to occur), the blockchain transactions for what they really are, rather than their mixing or noise. Imagine the scenario of an alternative block explorer which is de-obfuscating stuff and then assigning a probability percentage for each transaction. If DRK is a smash and it has many transactions, I bet someone will make this kind of "service".

Lol, in effect it'd be not much more effective than ROT13 encryption.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROT13
Urer'f gb ubcvat gung jba'g unccra ba nppbhag bs nal znwbe ubyrf va vg'f vzcyrzragngvba orvat creznaragyl svyyrq jvgu przrag. http://www.rot13.com/index.php

Not so easy, and not 100% (you still can't be certain if party A sends the money to party B or party C) but it's useful to brainstorm stuff to make it as bulletproof as it gets.
full member
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Vault of satoshi asked about which coin to add. I think we should reply with constructive posts. Not just "add DRK " or "Darkcoin <3" etc

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vault-of-satoshi-asks-what-coins-do-you-want-to-see-519658

Can we all please support this?
full member
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The Future Of Work
It seems to me that with the current darksend/denominate implementation it is dangerous to just dump the change from a darksend back into the wallet and use it with the rest of the balance. See the following chart for an example:



In this chart, either or both denominates could be non-dark sends, although it is most likely that the first will be denominate. Denominate is very easy to identify as it uses the same adress for all outputs, and has powers of 10 as most output amounts. As it is trying to refigure the balence and it is easy to identify, it is very effective at showing that one person owns all of the addresses involved, potentially tying together a large amount of addresses. At some point after a darksend, the change address will most likely be included in a denominate or non-dark send with other addresses. If the change address can be linked to one of the inputs to the darksend, the intended output can usually be worked out, as there generally will only be one possible output.

This could largely be fixed by pooling denominates and having each denominate output go to a different address. Another possible improvement would be to have an option to send the change to a different address, so one could send their change to a completely different wallet, to avoid accidentally mixing it, although their transaction could still be worked out by process of elimination if the other transactions mixed with theirs weren't done as carefully.

I was actually thinking about this the other day. Eventually we could have "denominating pools", they would function exactly as DarkSend pools do except the inputs would be change and the outputs would all be powers of ten.

I think there is a danger in making things too complex.  It may create loop holes that become hard to see.   Secure but dang good obfuscation is better in  my opinion than "almost perfect" obfuscation with possible security issues.  Perfect being unobtainable.
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The Future Of Work
Another possible improvement would be to have an option to send the change to a different address, so one could send their change to a completely different wallet, to avoid accidentally mixing it, although their transaction could still be worked out by process of elimination if the other transactions mixed with theirs weren't done as carefully.

If I'm not mistaken, darksend already does this by default.
darksend does send the change to a new address, but that new address is part of the same wallet, which is what opens up what I posted about. What I meant by that quote was having a spot to specify an address to send the change to instead of the current behavior, so that it would end up in a different wallet completely.

It's not any less trackable to 'the same' user if the change goes to a throw away address to original wallet or secondary wallet, plus that just complicates things to where it isn't usable.
sr. member
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1xbit.com
If anyone is looking for a nice How to Guide on Mining DarkCoin, either with a CPU or GPU then check this nice Step by Step Guide out...

http://www.reviewoutlaw.com/how-to-mine-darkcoin-gui-friendly-simple-way-mining-dark-coin/



Just wanted to say you've done a great job on this. Will add a link on the new webpage when it's launched. I suggest posting it to the subreddit as well.
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