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humanitee

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Quote from: eduffield on March 18, 2014, 12:55:08 PM

Checkout the whitepaper, master nodes don't control the collateral payments anymore. It's payment nodes, which are the last 2 block solvers. So it's the pools that would have to collude, in which case we'd know and stop using them.

http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkcoinWhitepaper.pdf

Very interesting.

eduffield

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Quote from: tifozi on March 18, 2014, 12:54:13 PM

Quote from: eduffield on March 18, 2014, 12:31:46 PM

Apparently we needed a white paper to be a legit crypto-currency, so here it is:

http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkcoinWhitepaper.pdf

Let me know if you see anything that could be improved, clearer, typos, etc.

DarkGravityWell (typo in the abstract) jumped right at me. Sux, I am at work, so having to read this on phone. I could definitely help reword some sentences. We really need to enrich the document with mathematical and code snippets from DGW and some other key DarkSend areas.

Evan, I am with "them". A whitepaper is absolutely necessary to appeal to scholars.

Thanks, updated!

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Quote from: humanitee on March 18, 2014, 12:52:06 PM

Quote from: TanteStefana on March 18, 2014, 12:38:40 PM

Highly unlikely as they're chosen randomly

But still possible.

Haven't seen the code snippet, but if probability tends to 0 without actually being zero, I'm down with that. Actually probability and distribution functions should be an interesting addition to whitepaper.

eduffield

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Quote from: humanitee on March 18, 2014, 12:52:06 PM

Quote from: TanteStefana on March 18, 2014, 12:38:40 PM

Highly unlikely as they're chosen randomly

But still possible.

Checkout the whitepaper, master nodes don't control the collateral payments anymore. It's payment nodes, which are the last 2 block solvers. So it's the pools that would have to collude, in which case we'd know and stop using them.

http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkcoinWhitepaper.pdf

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Quote from: eduffield on March 18, 2014, 12:31:46 PM

Apparently we needed a white paper to be a legit crypto-currency, so here it is:

http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkcoinWhitepaper.pdf

Let me know if you see anything that could be improved, clearer, typos, etc.

DarkGravityWell (typo in the abstract) jumped right at me. Sux, I am at work, so having to read this on phone. I could definitely help reword some sentences. We really need to enrich the document with mathematical and code snippets from DGW and some other key DarkSend areas.

Evan, I am with "them". A whitepaper is absolutely necessary to appeal to scholars.

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Quote from: TanteStefana on March 18, 2014, 12:38:40 PM

Highly unlikely as they're chosen randomly

But still possible.

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Quote from: eduffield on March 18, 2014, 12:31:46 PM

Apparently we needed a white paper to be a legit crypto-currency, so here it is:

http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkcoinWhitepaper.pdf

Let me know if you see anything that could be improved, clearer, typos, etc.

"X11, a chained ...." => needs better flow
"creates much slower advancement of mining technology" = a bit vague (?)
"to provide quick responses" => quick response to large mining power fluctuations
"This came at a cost" line, needs rephrasing for better flow.
"This thas implications"
"In 2014 we realized that we could make a cryptocurrency that used a decentralized version of
CoinJoin as it’s implementation for anonymizing transactions, we have named this DarkSend. "
=>
"To solve this inherent problem of privacy, we created a new crypto-currency (DarkCoin) that used a decentralized version of CoinJoin in order to anonymize transactions. We gave this implementation the name DarkSend.

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Quote from: humanitee on March 18, 2014, 11:45:47 AM

Evan, will the master node and slave node be able to collude in any way? To phrase it differently, will they be able to tamper with the collateral and take it, similar to anon's question a few pages back? One would just need control of both nodes, right?

I realize this attack vector would be limited statistically speaking, but it still seems quite possible.

Highly unlikely as they're chosen randomly

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Quote from: eduffield on March 18, 2014, 12:31:46 PM

Apparently we needed a white paper to be a legit crypto-currency, so here it is:

http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkcoinWhitepaper.pdf

Let me know if you see anything that could be improved, clearer, typos, etc.

Wow...
Do you ever sleep...?

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Quote from: coins101 on March 18, 2014, 10:54:20 AM

The NSA is doing a great job marketing darkcoin:

If they can store all phone calls made, keeping a store of all bitcoins and linking them down the line is trivial

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-surveillance-program-reaches-into-the-past-to-retrieve-replay-phone-calls/2014/03/18/226d2646-ade9-11e3-a49e-76adc9210f19_story.html

Even though they didn't directly mention Darkcoin, do they still qualify for a Bounty for marketing? Or should it go the Washington Post writer? I doubt LimLims would want them to know his wallet address. Hope they can wait till DarkSend is ready.

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Apparently we needed a white paper to be a legit crypto-currency, so here it is:

http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkcoinWhitepaper.pdf

Let me know if you see anything that could be improved, clearer, typos, etc.

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Please stop with the name change posts relating them to trying to "brand" the coin away from the potential "dark side" of it's use.

I've said it at least 10x on this thread. This coin needs to be adopted by the good people and the bad people alike who just want anonymous transactions. It is not the developer's, nor the community's, responsibility to police it's use.

I saw the interview posted a few days ago and was turned off by the inclusion of some sort of "agreement" being pushed on users to not use the coin for illegal uses.

To me, this is a bad marketing move. The response should be nothing more than "of course we don't want DRK to be used for illegal purposes, but due to the anonymous nature of this currency, we can't control how a user uses DRK anymore than you can dictate how a person uses a Euro or USD"

We need the pot buyers (and most likely) the other illicit transactions to actually give DRK a legit foothold.... whether you want it or not, i truly believe that is the springboard for the currency (as it was for BTC, tbh).

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Quote from: anonymousxx1503 on March 18, 2014, 12:15:21 PM

Quote from: dazbarlby on March 18, 2014, 12:01:12 PM

A few people have said the name gives the coin an instant bad image. I personally like the name but for image purposes do you think we should change it and change it now while the coin is still in it's infancy and before Darksend is released?

Here are a few name ideas.

Incognito Coin
Ecognito Coin - (Eco friendly and Incognito/private)
Secret Coin
Confidential Coin
Private Coin
Covert Coin
Privy Coin
Personal Coin

There was a big discussion about it a while and the answer was a resounding "no" to a name change. What's up with all the new people coming in here trying to change the name of the coin? The name is awesome, it grabs attention. If I hear a news reporter on CNN mention a new kind of money called Darkcoin I will look up towards my TV right away if I didn't know what it was.

Additionally I can't think of a name that sounds better than Darkcoin. Firstly because of all the trashclones of everything which made names basically irrelevant and secondly because the name is only a very little part. It all depends on marketing and the community. I think Dogecoin is the best example for that.

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I'm relatively new here but I have to say darkcoin is really in a different league from almost every other coin it seems. A few have interesting variations on the basic concept, some nice logos and promotion but nothing much more than that. As a fellow aspiring dev I'm impressed by the darkcoin dev, good luck with further development.

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Quote from: dazbarlby on March 18, 2014, 12:01:12 PM

A few people have said the name gives the coin an instant bad image. I personally like the name but for image purposes do you think we should change it and change it now while the coin is still in it's infancy and before Darksend is released?

Here are a few name ideas.

Incognito Coin
Ecognito Coin - (Eco friendly and Incognito/private)
Secret Coin
Confidential Coin
Private Coin
Covert Coin
Privy Coin
Personal Coin

There was a big discussion about it a while and the answer was a resounding "no" to a name change. What's up with all the new people coming in here trying to change the name of the coin? The name is awesome, it grabs attention. If I hear a news reporter on CNN mention a new kind of money called Darkcoin I will look up towards my TV right away if I didn't know what it was.

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Quote from: dazbarlby on March 18, 2014, 12:01:12 PM

A few people have said the name gives the coin an instant bad image. I personally like the name but for image purposes do you think we should change it and change it now while the coin is still in it's infancy and before Darksend is released?

Here are a few name ideas.

Incognito Coin
Ecognito Coin - (Eco friendly and Incognito/private)
Secret Coin
Confidential Coin
Private Coin
Covert Coin
Privy Coin
Personal Coin

It's cash over the internet. It sort of doesn't matter what the brand name is.

The direction you give with the brand makes more sense, but I'm no brand expert.

Darkcoin: Cash Over The Internet

Having said that - DarkCash Grin

- stick with darkcoin.

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Quote from: DieCommieScum on March 18, 2014, 12:03:17 PM

Quote from: DieCommieScum on March 17, 2014, 08:56:56 PM

Going to put a run of these together if there's enough interest. If I get 15 orders I can get these to US residents for $23usd (payable in BTC or DRK, can use Moolah for Escrow), non-us residents we just need to figure out a shipping surcharge.

Sizes are up to 4xl

If you want in, shoot me a PM or email me at my handle name @ cointrepid.com

EDIT: Design updated to include website text

UPDATE I've had a few requests from folks in Europe, it seems most European countries would add $10 to the shipping, so shipping to the EU is available for a total of $33 (countries I've checked so far are the UK, Germany, and Belgium)

Canada only adds $5 to the shipping, so for Canadians it would be $28

Why not make versions with different cool binary messages on it ^^,actually it says "o", would be neat.
At least it should say darkcoin , or the darkcoin website url or some custom code

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Quote from: DieCommieScum on March 17, 2014, 08:56:56 PM

Going to put a run of these together if there's enough interest. If I get 15 orders I can get these to US residents for $23usd (payable in BTC or DRK, can use Moolah for Escrow), non-us residents we just need to figure out a shipping surcharge.

Sizes are up to 4xl

If you want in, shoot me a PM or email me at my handle name @ cointrepid.com

EDIT: Design updated to include website text

UPDATE I've had a few requests from folks in Europe, it seems most European countries would add $10 to the shipping, so shipping to the EU is available for a total of $33 (countries I've checked so far are the UK, Germany, and Belgium)

Canada only adds $5 to the shipping, so for Canadians it would be $28

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A few people have said the name gives the coin an instant bad image. I personally like the name but for image purposes do you think we should change it and change it now while the coin is still in it's infancy and before Darksend is released?

Here are a few name ideas.

Incognito Coin
Ecognito Coin - (Eco friendly and Incognito/private)
Secret Coin
Confidential Coin
Private Coin
Covert Coin
Privy Coin
Personal Coin

sippsnapp

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Quote from: InternetApe on March 18, 2014, 11:51:18 AM

Quote from: minersday on March 18, 2014, 11:47:53 AM

I have an idea, if you could send an encrypted messages for example certain size with the darksend block.
like when you pay bills, you put in refence code, or a simple small message to the person or company you are paying.
This way you could send messages with the payments for example delivery address or something like that..

could this theoretically be done?

This is something we have on our task list to add in the future.

What would be the effect on blockchain size?
Do you have anything planned concerning blockchain size?

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