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Hi all, I managed to set up minerd to CPU to mine for DRK, but is is a waste of time (5 hours and nothing), so I bought a graphics card to up my hash rate, but I seem to be having issues?

cgminer doesn't seem to be detecting my card?

I'm running linux mint 32bit, my graphics card is an GeForce GT 610.

How do I set up AMD-APP-SDK for my card?

Is there a really good "noob" friendly guide to setting up my graphics card to mine on linux? (I love linux, but it can be a pain in the ass installing software).

Many thanks in advance for any info to help a noob miner out Smiley


Sorry to say, but you bought the wrong card. There is no nvidia miner for darkcoin yet. You can mine with cpu or an amd card. You can also mine with butt computing using amazon ec2, but that's not particularly noob friendly. Honestly you're probably better buying some DRK directly right now.
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A lack of response to some technical questions raised a few pages back seems to be tanking confidence in DRK...

And what question might that be?

Several points, which I disagree with, relating to darksend integration and anonymity protections.

I'm satisfied from my own research, but I didn't see any response to the questions raised...

Are you talking about the anonminty bloke? He's waiting for the devs. I reckon its late in the U.S. besides, today is launch day so when next the dev comes in, its to release the binaries.



Yeah, that fella. It's 8:20 am in Florida... (previous post updated)

I sometimes forget how fast this thread moves. 4 pages ago isn't days, it's minutes... strike tank comment...

I'd like to see a rundown of how Blockchain.info's Shared Send BTC feature compares with DRK's darksend implementation. Not that it isn't already obvious to those who read, but for those who TL;DR and just want a quick skim/chart/comparo of why they should give a crap about DRK.
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A lack of response to some technical questions raised a few pages back seems to be tanking confidence in DRK...

And what question might that be?

Several points, which I disagree with, relating to darksend integration and anonymity protections.

I'm satisfied from my own research, but I didn't see any response to the questions raised...

Are you talking about the anonminty bloke? He's waiting for the devs. I reckon its late in the U.S. besides, today is launch day so when next the dev comes in, its to release the binaries.

hero member
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www.OroCoin.co
A lack of response to some technical questions raised a few pages back seems to be tanking confidence in DRK...

And what question might that be?

Several points, which I disagree with, relating to darksend integration and anonymity protections.

I'm satisfied from my own research, but I didn't see any response to the questions raised...

So, HUGE progress this morning! I have a proof-of-concept of the anonymous transactions working on testnet! Here's some screenshots, these were 3 separate transactions sent to 3 different addresses, at separate times.

Notice how you can't tell who is sending to who. Soon all blocks will only have 2 transactions, 1 for the creation event and a merged transaction with everything else.

http://www.xcoin.co/coinjoin1.png
http://www.xcoin.co/coinjoin2.png

That's so cool you got it working, but could you explain to those of us that aren't knowledgeable what it all means please?  I understand how it's supposed to work, I just don't understand how to read the chart,  Cheesy  Tongue

I also feel that if you were to explain it, there would be great interest from the public!  Thanks!

Bitcoin is often promoted as being somewhat anonymous, but the main problem is that if I know your address, I can literally tell everyone you've ever paid. Imagine everyone you met, was able to see everything you bought in your checking account. That's pretty much the situation Bitcoin and other alt-coins are currently in. We need to move quickly to a anonymity-by-default approach.

There are many solutions out there for fixing this and we know how to implement them. But, the developers are very scared of implementing these fixes, with the possibility of bringing down a 10+ billion dollar economy.  So it will take years at the very minimum to do this.

So, that's where XCoin comes into play. I want solve many of these problems that Bitcoin and other alt-coins experience, making XCoin the beta to Bitcoin. The goal is to be years ahead in development, with cutting edge features that would be insanely difficult to pull off in their codebase.

So what progress was made this morning? I implemented a rough version of CoinJoin. The idea behind what I'm working on was originally put forward by Gregory Maxwell  and it's a great idea (if you want to read more, the original post is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinjoin-bitcoin-privacy-for-the-real-world-279249).

In short, transactions in the Bitcoin Blockchain are stored like this:

"User1 paid User12 the amount 1.2BTC"
"User4 paid User2 the amount 1.2BTC"
"User11 paid User3 the amount 1.2BTC"

In XCoin they'll look like this:

"Debit User1 the amount 1.2XCO, Debit User4 the amount 1.2XCO, Debit User11 the amount 1.2XCO"
and
"Credit User12 the amount 1.2XCO, Credit User2 the amount 1.2XCO, Credit User3 the amount 1.2XCO"

Notice, in the XCoin you can't tell who paid who. But in Bitcoin the parties are linked together. This will be a large step forward to providing anonymity by default.

It appears the technical design of this DarkCoin is fundamentally flawed and can't be fixed.

There must be some proof that senders sent transactions for all peers on the network to verify before they can accept the block and begin working on the next block solution. Such proof must exist otherwise balances could be stolen by rogue peers.

Thus I must assume you are doing a CoinJoin-like proof for all senders that in that block. And I assume these proofs are transmitted with the block, even if you purge them later (using a proof-of-work chain such as in the mini block chain design).

The problem is that CoinJoin is subject to denial-of-service attack in that if any sender fails to sign in the second step, then no senders can send.

Thus CoinJoin can't scale to a larger number of senders joined. It works best with a few senders and the probability of denial-of-service (rogue sender) is low.

Did you even read the CoinJoin thread carefully?

There is a second insoluble flaw that CoinJoin does nothing to obscure IP address and thus you have no anonymity against powerful entities.

P.S. I don't have time to read 300 pages of this thread to find out if you already addressed this issue. Please give me a link to any prior reply.

Wow, it's that open eh?

Still, this example implies that one could still link up the amounts of the transactions to find the end users.  How unique are transaction amounts, and how hard would it be to hide that level?  Is there a breaking up of the payment so that the amounts are harder to compare or something?  Or am I missing something due to the simplification of the explanation? 

Yes, you could still use the transaction amounts to track money through the system. This combined with some logic to use common transaction amounts or some other logic like that in the wallet could definitely help. Even with the problems, having coinjoin implemented directly into the client is a huge step in the right direction.

And timing analysis too.
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A lack of response to some technical questions raised a few pages back seems to be tanking confidence in DRK...

And what question might that be?
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A lack of response to some technical questions raised a few pages back seems to be tanking confidence in DRK...
hero member
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Merit: 500
www.OroCoin.co
Hi all, I managed to set up minerd to CPU to mine for DRK, but is is a waste of time (5 hours and nothing), so I bought a graphics card to up my hash rate, but I seem to be having issues?

cgminer doesn't seem to be detecting my card?

I'm running linux mint 32bit, my graphics card is an GeForce GT 610.

How do I set up AMD-APP-SDK for my card?

Is there a really good "noob" friendly guide to setting up my graphics card to mine on linux? (I love linux, but it can be a pain in the ass installing software).

Many thanks in advance for any info to help a noob miner out Smiley


Oh, the fun you're about to have... The best help I can give you is to buy some Ibuprophen and Caffeine before you get started. It's gonna suck... It took days to get my 7970 mining LTC. I haven't tried to mine DRK yet... Too many other things to do... I hope you don't have a job or friends, otherwise it's going to be  long time... :-p
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P2P The Planet!
Hi all, I managed to set up minerd to CPU to mine for DRK, but is is a waste of time (5 hours and nothing), so I bought a graphics card to up my hash rate, but I seem to be having issues?

cgminer doesn't seem to be detecting my card?

I'm running linux mint 32bit, my graphics card is an GeForce GT 610.

How do I set up AMD-APP-SDK for my card?

Is there a really good "noob" friendly guide to setting up my graphics card to mine on linux? (I love linux, but it can be a pain in the ass installing software).

Many thanks in advance for any info to help a noob miner out Smiley


cgminer is for amd cards. Not sure if there's an nvidia miner for darkcoin atm. And to be honest you are better off buying if you are not mining with a amd card.
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I know that it spilts each transaction up into certain decimals. But the amount an individual sends and receives can still be tracked.

Yes, but there is more to it than that, only I can't explain it. You should join the testing, it's always open to anyone.  And my dreams are a bit tongue in cheek, having fun Smiley


I really don't know exactly how it all works, but it seems to work in testing and fast!  I'm wondering if mined coins are included?  There doesn't seem to be any delay in the combining of the amounts before they go out again.

I still think darkcoin is undervalued when compared to the competition.

For example: Worldcoin, Feathercoin, Megacoin , Infinitecoin, quark, novacoin are all in front of darkcoin which i don't see why they should be.

It is just down to relative maturity.

DRK is very young and has a number of phases to go through before it reaches comparable status.

auroracoin is young look at its market cap.
legendary
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Hi all, I managed to set up minerd to CPU to mine for DRK, but is is a waste of time (5 hours and nothing), so I bought a graphics card to up my hash rate, but I seem to be having issues?

cgminer doesn't seem to be detecting my card?

I'm running linux mint 32bit, my graphics card is an GeForce GT 610.

How do I set up AMD-APP-SDK for my card?

Is there a really good "noob" friendly guide to setting up my graphics card to mine on linux? (I love linux, but it can be a pain in the ass installing software).

Many thanks in advance for any info to help a noob miner out Smiley
legendary
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I know that it spilts each transaction up into certain decimals. But the amount an individual sends and receives can still be tracked.

Yes, but there is more to it than that, only I can't explain it. You should join the testing, it's always open to anyone.  And my dreams are a bit tongue in cheek, having fun Smiley


I really don't know exactly how it all works, but it seems to work in testing and fast!  I'm wondering if mined coins are included?  There doesn't seem to be any delay in the combining of the amounts before they go out again.

I still think darkcoin is undervalued when compared to the competition.

For example: Worldcoin, Feathercoin, Megacoin , Infinitecoin, quark, novacoin are all in front of darkcoin which i don't see why they should be.

It is just down to relative maturity.

DRK is very young and has a number of phases to go through before it reaches comparable status.
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I've read in several places that Darkcoin uses "X11" as a proof-of-work algorithm.
I don't understand if merely mean 11 different hash functions combined, or whether it is it a recognized / defined technology, or something else?
I'd love to read more about it and learn. If anyone can reffer me by posting some links or an answer about this, i'd appreciate. thnx.


It's 11 different algorithms that the developer named X-11 hence the original name of this coin, Xcoin.  A good cpu computer can still hold it's own in the mining of this coin.  Check out the first page, he lists them Smiley
So if I understand correctly, in a simple words- darkcoin hashes a so-called 'Merkle Tree' [i understood this from elsewhere] with 11 different hashes, one after the other?
If so, can you please throw in some logic/arguments why this is better than suppose having a merkle-tree of same hash function x11?
I'm sorry if you are pulling hair due to my lack of basics understanding, but I do want to learn in order to be in a position to promote and write about this for the avg. joe.
tnkx.
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The @ss in me needs to correct you though, LOL, it's 0.0016 DRK/kh/day.  Remember my formula?  Your hash = not nearly enough?  Your estimate is much closer to enough Tongue

Ha, oops, you're right. Meant to write 1.6 DRK / Mh / day.
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Is there any mining calculator for darkcoin?

I wish we could be on coinwarz but they only have scrypt and sha-256

But though I don't know of a calculator, I can offer you this formula:

Your hash rate = not enough coins  Cheesy

It's pretty much true for everyone  Grin
This formula working for you?
 Grin Grin

Not really, it just shows me that I'm turning into an @ss which means it's time for bed, LOL  Waiting for my graphics driver to install on my laptop, and it's taking forever!

TanteStefana, you make this thread so much more enjoyable to read.  Cheesy

@avanda, I don't know of a mining calculator, but the official pool gives this payout estimation at the current difficulty:

kh/s:       50,499
drk/day:  81.416

You can extrapolate from there. Around 1.6 DRK / kh / day.

Thanks, I like the people on this thread too Smiley
 
The @ss in me needs to correct you though, LOL, it's 0.0016 DRK/kh/day.  Remember my formula?  Your hash = not nearly enough?  Your estimate is much closer to enough Tongue

Thank you for fixing that, it was REALLY buggin me and I thought I was doing the math wrong for a second too, which was buggin me even more lol
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Is there any mining calculator for darkcoin?

I wish we could be on coinwarz but they only have scrypt and sha-256

But though I don't know of a calculator, I can offer you this formula:

Your hash rate = not enough coins  Cheesy

It's pretty much true for everyone  Grin
This formula working for you?
 Grin Grin

Not really, it just shows me that I'm turning into an @ss which means it's time for bed, LOL  Waiting for my graphics driver to install on my laptop, and it's taking forever!

TanteStefana, you make this thread so much more enjoyable to read.  Cheesy

@avanda, I don't know of a mining calculator, but the official pool gives this payout estimation at the current difficulty:

kh/s:       50,499
drk/day:  81.416

You can extrapolate from there. Around 1.6 DRK / kh / day.

Thanks, I like the people on this thread too Smiley
 
The @ss in me needs to correct you though, LOL, it's 0.0016 DRK/kh/day.  Remember my formula?  Your hash = not nearly enough?  Your estimate is much closer to enough Tongue
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Is there any mining calculator for darkcoin?

I wish we could be on coinwarz but they only have scrypt and sha-256

But though I don't know of a calculator, I can offer you this formula:

Your hash rate = not enough coins  Cheesy

It's pretty much true for everyone  Grin
This formula working for you?
 Grin Grin

Not really, it just shows me that I'm turning into an @ss which means it's time for bed, LOL  Waiting for my graphics driver to install on my laptop, and it's taking forever!

TanteStefana, you make this thread so much more enjoyable to read.  Cheesy

@avanda, I don't know of a mining calculator, but the official pool gives this payout estimation at the current difficulty:

kh/s:       50,499
drk/day:  81.416

You can extrapolate from there. Around 1.6 DRK / kh / day.
So profitability seems to be less than 70% of multipools
I don't understand that actual price then Sad
legendary
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Is there any mining calculator for darkcoin?

1 DRK = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Hey, my Darkcoin Mac wallet doesn't run, it says :    DarkCoin-MacOSX.dm  image not recognised
 
Do you know any way to solve this?  Cry

Thanks! Wink
legendary
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Is there any mining calculator for darkcoin?

I wish we could be on coinwarz but they only have scrypt and sha-256

But though I don't know of a calculator, I can offer you this formula:

Your hash rate = not enough coins  Cheesy

It's pretty much true for everyone  Grin

I use the following method as my rough estimation:

Unconfirmed coins in the pool (=which is usually the past 5 hours of mining) X 4.8 (to make it 24 hours) = the number of coins per day based on the past 5 hours.

If you find it works for you, great. I think it works for me pretty ok.
sr. member
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Is there any mining calculator for darkcoin?

I wish we could be on coinwarz but they only have scrypt and sha-256

But though I don't know of a calculator, I can offer you this formula:

Your hash rate = not enough coins  Cheesy

It's pretty much true for everyone  Grin
This formula working for you?
 Grin Grin

Not really, it just shows me that I'm turning into an @ss which means it's time for bed, LOL  Waiting for my graphics driver to install on my laptop, and it's taking forever!

TanteStefana, you make this thread so much more enjoyable to read.  Cheesy

@avanda, I don't know of a mining calculator, but the official pool gives this payout estimation at the current difficulty:

kh/s:       50,499
drk/day:  81.416

You can extrapolate from there. Around 1.6 DRK / kh / day.
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