Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 6870. (Read 9723475 times)

@eduffield, sent you a PM available for closed testing now and anytime in the next 10 hours.

We should work on securing the network. Disperse and increase hashrate throughout more pools.

Oh man!  I hope we see those kind of adoption rates 

More like 0.1-0.2 / day.

Think about in one month once this coin is fully implemented. You probably only gonna be mining 1-2.

You are right,
But fortunately I still have that coin...eheheheh

@eduffield I have just sent a PM, please help!

I think we need variety in the cryptocoin space. Two anonymous currencies are better than one and much better than zero.

DarkSend is in a working state on testnet, so we're making good progress. I wouldn't call that non-existant. Also, Zerocoin uses exotic mathematics that could have some unforeseen hole in them and DarkSend uses a completely different implementation that is pretty straight forward and relies on tried and true mathematics. So again, 2 is better than 1.

Checkout this link to see the mathematics I'm talking about in Zerocoin: https://github.com/Zerocoin/libzerocoin/blob/master/AccumulatorProofOfKnowledge.cpp

Zerocoin's proof of work is in the 2 kilobyte range if I remember correctly, per transaction. That's alot better than it was for their first proof, but it will still cause alot of bloat in the blockchain. Darksend's method of anonymity on the other hand doesn't have very much bloat at all. 

Don't get me wrong, Zerocoin is very cool, but obviously I think Darkcoin has it's place. Further more, Zerocoin doesn't even exist yet. So we're the first anonymous currency that works with only the wallet.

Haha, 10 days ago your 50DRK were 5+ times cheaper, so you are still earning the same

I'm not in a position to debug code / network operation etc or understand the intricate details of "under-the-hood" operation of DarkSend etc. What I want you to think about (not necessarily answer me in private or in public) in order to make the coin as much future-proof as possible, is this:

Are there data from the network operation that can be thrown into a well-developed pattern recognition program by the NSA, in say, 5-10-20 years time, that can lead to clues that form patterns that in turn reveal the nature of the transaction?

It could be simple stuff like one wallet emptying by X amount and another being filled by the same X amount, stuff related to time (ie when the wallets empty and fill around the same time), IPs, etc. You have to think in reverse "how could I possibly spot who's sending what to whom by all the clues that I can have access to, rather than those I don't because they are encrypted".

Additionally, contemplate

-whether there is any way that a huge miner that processes the transactions can play the role of something like an NSA-controlled TOR exit node that could give advanced clues for pattern-recognition to understand the anonymous transaction. The same if someone created, say, virtual nodes (like 90% of the network) - would that have any effect on darksend operational mapping / understanding / reverse engineering of the process?

-that advanced AI pattern recognition can, in many cases, recognize patterns where humans cannot. You can "feed" the AI with a certain function and then it can start to understand it and detect it. For example you can do 50 darksends from one to another (controlled) so that the AI knows who is darksending to another and then, knowing the "familiar" pattern, maybe it can plot the totality of darksend transactions with a good degree of accuracy by seeing things that we miss. This means that if someone controls the whole Internet (or know the flow of data therein - which is what the NSA can do for a large percentage of the traffic) the sending will ultimately be revealed if this works. Essentially we're dealing with AI-grade resistant anonymity over a well-observed or well-controlled network by third parties (who want to know the transactions) in order to achieve future-proofing.

ok...but this don't change the fact that i will gain only 2 darkcoin for 1 day on mining

well if you are comparing with normal scryptmining and have 550kh/s there.. you will have around 1.1Mh/s in darkcoin mining

Don't sell below the retard whale who is pushing down the price ...

DRK buy orders are up: https://coin-swap.net/market/DRK/

And yet price is down over that period making DRK less profitable to mine than other alternatives. Either (a) miners fully expect price to rise to new highs to compensate or (b) they're all asleep and the hash rate will drop when they wake up and log on. My money is literally and figuratively on (a).

Difficulty 140-149 over last 6 hours. 

Is the latest wallet (REAL) that we should be using the one thats linked on the front page of this thread?? ....anyone?

Hello, i use windows 8.1.

I'm mining this coin since the launch.

Congratulations for your work.

Plz tell me how can i help you.

Best regards.

I'm remaking the logo (same but cleaner) for the developers right now, so after that we'll get merchant logos as well.

When I run sgminer I get

"GPU_MAX_ALLOC PERCENT is not specified" and
"GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS is not specified", but I've set "setx" on both of them.

What can be the problem?