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The Future Of Work

I think it should remain closed source a while after going live with it. Some people are going to use the plugin no doubt, even though most wouldn't. However, the promise that the source will be released soon, and the fact that it is working, will affect the market price positively (and thus general interest towards the coin). And also it creates yet another climax point when there will be countdown to the release of the source etc. All about marketing. Smiley

I like the way you think, please stick around Wink
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The Future Of Work
Closed source at first, no question. Then after few months when DarkCoin has become de-facto anonymous transfers enabling currency release the source.

If people don't trust their whole wallet balance to the closed source plugin, they can have their main wallet running without the plugin, and xfer the amounts they want to transfer anonymously to the another wallet with the plugin.

Agree

Open Source or Closed Source?

Closed source until beta/release to protect the coin from clones while it is being developed.  Clones are not bad, and it can provide a legitimate competitive rivalry among developers, but I think doing it this early would be a mistake pragmatically due to greed and capitalistic manipulation.

After that, it must, must, MUST be open source -- the community is for the most part somewhat more knowledgeable in cryptography and the need for anonymity in transactions, and you simply cannot have this if it is closed source.  Anecdote: this is why Truecrypt is infinitely more popular than any other data encryption.  No matter how good your intentions, no-one is going to trust a closed source client these days.  No one even trusts "trustworthy" companies like Google with their data as they did all doe-eyed in 2008 with their (in)famous "do no evil" motto when they, too, simply bend to the will of their masters.

Again, I agree, but need to keep reading, LOL, I'm behind!
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Net hashrate still hasn't fallen, he's still around, hiding somewhere in the DARK!
well, last 5 minutes has been the same block thats been working on


Network Info
Difficulty   95.1916661
Est Next Difficulty   47.98040253 (Change in 454 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   297.6 seconds
Current Block   15098
 

Well if he really did take off then we're stuck at this diff for the next week...gravity well needed.

Plus when we knock the diff back down, at the current trading price everyone and their mother are going to jump onto these pools if the whale doesn't come back first.  Easy mining days are over gentlemen. 
i think we are going to get a hardfork... proberly with gravity well..


Network Info
Difficulty   95.1916661
Est Next Difficulty   47.98040253 (Change in 454 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   297.6 seconds
Current Block   15098


still at same block, yup, he has left

Hardfork + easy mode mining = price crash
in the beginning, yes
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Who cares?
Net hashrate still hasn't fallen, he's still around, hiding somewhere in the DARK!
well, last 5 minutes has been the same block thats been working on


Network Info
Difficulty   95.1916661
Est Next Difficulty   47.98040253 (Change in 454 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   297.6 seconds
Current Block   15098
 

Well if he really did take off then we're stuck at this diff for the next week...gravity well needed.

Plus when we knock the diff back down, at the current trading price everyone and their mother are going to jump onto these pools if the whale doesn't come back first.  Easy mining days are over gentlemen. 
i think we are going to get a hardfork... proberly with gravity well..


Network Info
Difficulty   95.1916661
Est Next Difficulty   47.98040253 (Change in 454 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   297.6 seconds
Current Block   15098


still at same block, yup, he has left

Hardfork + easy mode mining = price crash
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
Net hashrate still hasn't fallen, he's still around, hiding somewhere in the DARK!
well, last 5 minutes has been the same block thats been working on


Network Info
Difficulty   95.1916661
Est Next Difficulty   47.98040253 (Change in 454 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   297.6 seconds
Current Block   15098
 

Well if he really did take off then we're stuck at this diff for the next week...gravity well needed.

Plus when we knock the diff back down, at the current trading price everyone and their mother are going to jump onto these pools if the whale doesn't come back first.  Easy mining days are over gentlemen. 
i think we are going to get a hardfork... proberly with gravity well..


Network Info
Difficulty   95.1916661
Est Next Difficulty   47.98040253 (Change in 454 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   297.6 seconds
Current Block   15098


still at same block, yup, he has left
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
Net hashrate still hasn't fallen, he's still around, hiding somewhere in the DARK!
well, last 5 minutes has been the same block thats been working on


Network Info
Difficulty   95.1916661
Est Next Difficulty   47.98040253 (Change in 454 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   297.6 seconds
Current Block   15098
 

Well if he really did take off then we're stuck at this diff for the next week...gravity well needed.

Plus when we knock the diff back down, at the current trading price everyone and their mother are going to jump onto these pools if the whale doesn't come back first.  Easy mining days are over gentlemen. 
i think we are going to get a hardfork... proberly with gravity well..
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Who cares?
Net hashrate still hasn't fallen, he's still around, hiding somewhere in the DARK!
well, last 5 minutes has been the same block thats been working on


Network Info
Difficulty   95.1916661
Est Next Difficulty   47.98040253 (Change in 454 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   297.6 seconds
Current Block   15098
 

Well if he really did take off then we're stuck at this diff for the next week...gravity well needed.

Plus when we knock the diff back down, at the current trading price everyone and their mother are going to jump onto these pools if the whale doesn't come back first.  Easy mining days are over gentlemen. 
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
Net hashrate still hasn't fallen, he's still around, hiding somewhere in the DARK!
well, last 5 minutes has been the same block thats been working on


Network Info
Difficulty   95.1916661
Est Next Difficulty   47.98040253 (Change in 454 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   297.6 seconds
Current Block   15098
 

to me this looks like he has turned off the whale
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Who cares?
Net hashrate still hasn't fallen, he's still around, hiding somewhere in the DARK!
legendary
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Whale's MH at coinmine.pl is dropping to zero, but total network MH is unchanged at 1500?!
Is the network MH number just wrong, or did the whale just switch to other pools or solomine?

I was just thinking about that, I'd say solo, or theres a chinese pool we dont know about.
If he goes solo hes protected from someone ddosing the pool hes mining at.
it takes a while for the network to realise the change
I only see around 250 MH from all the pools combined.
Where can I see the latest blocks? If the rate of new blocks is unchanged, then overall network MH is unchanged

Edit: I only see 5 blocks generated by all pools in last hour. does anybody know total blocks found last hour?

getnetworkhashrateps is based on a calculated guess, wait for a couple more blocks on you see what i mean
legendary
Activity: 1176
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Whale's MH at coinmine.pl is dropping to zero, but total network MH is unchanged at 1500?!
Is the network MH number just wrong, or did the whale just switch to other pools or solomine?

I was just thinking about that, I'd say solo, or theres a chinese pool we dont know about.
If he goes solo hes protected from someone ddosing the pool hes mining at.
it takes a while for the network to realise the change
I only see around 250 MH from all the pools combined.
Where can I see the latest blocks? If the rate of new blocks is unchanged, then overall network MH is unchanged

Edit: I only see 5 blocks generated by all pools in last hour. does anybody know total blocks found last hour?
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
Whale's MH at coinmine.pl is dropping to zero, but total network MH is unchanged at 1500?!
Is the network MH number just wrong, or did the whale just switch to other pools or solomine?

I was just thinking about that, I'd say solo, or theres a chinese pool we dont know about.
If he goes solo hes protected from someone ddosing the pool hes mining at.
it takes a while for the network to realise the change
staying above 51% also is a way to make sure you get >90% of all blocks
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1002
Whale's MH at coinmine.pl is dropping to zero, but total network MH is unchanged at 1500?!
Is the network MH number just wrong, or did the whale just switch to other pools or solomine?

I was just thinking about that, I'd say solo, or theres a chinese pool we dont know about.
If he goes solo hes protected from someone ddosing the pool hes mining at.
it takes a while for the network to realise the change
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
Whale's MH at coinmine.pl is dropping to zero, but total network MH is unchanged at 1500?!
Is the network MH number just wrong, or did the whale just switch to other pools or solomine?

I was just thinking about that, I'd say solo, or theres a chinese pool we dont know about.
If he goes solo hes protected from someone ddosing the pool hes mining at.
I was hoping Monday in China meant computers had to be released to students at univ. Since he moved 800MH without changing overall network MH, it means he is here to stay and going solo.
This actually might be good news as it means he is helping us reach the lower diff faster. Hopefully, he will keep it at 800MH.

Wait!

Now that he is solo mining, isnt a 51% attack that much easier for him to do??? He is doing (total MH) - (sum of all pools MH) = ~70% of all blocks. He can easily generate longest chain, at least nowhere to spend it other than exchanges. Whats worse is by using 33% selfish mining technique, he can always stay just ahead of the rest of us and get a disproportional share of blocks, eg. even more than 70%.

The way he is managing his MH, it almost seems like he is throttling it not due to cost, but just trying to stay above 50%.

James


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Activity: 280
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Who cares?
Whale's MH at coinmine.pl is dropping to zero, but total network MH is unchanged at 1500?!
Is the network MH number just wrong, or did the whale just switch to other pools or solomine?

I was just thinking about that, I'd say solo, or theres a chinese pool we dont know about.
If he goes solo hes protected from someone ddosing the pool hes mining at.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
Whale's MH at coinmine.pl is dropping to zero, but total network MH is unchanged at 1500?!
Is the network MH number just wrong, or did the whale just switch to other pools or solomine?
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Who cares?
I got a free account with microsoft and a free 30 day trial of azure - allows me to run 20 cores (each gets about 33kh/s) and point them at my pool - If a number of others can jump on this then perhaps we could generate some kh/s to offset this whale?

I realize that it will take alot of folks at 660kh/s - but it is something - and it only took me about 30 min to set up...

I may be mistaken, but that Azure free 1 month trial is $200 credit to use up to one month.  If you have 20 cores, sounds like you will burn through the $200 monthly credit very quickly.

About four days of continuous use at 20 cores.
Even at this reduced rate, whale is using ~30000 cores, would need 1000+ people to Azure. At least whale isnt being totally antisocial, if he was a true raper, he would be totally gone now and wait a week to come back. Maybe he calculates more profits with this method or maybe he REALLY likes this coin?

Edit: Hmmm, maybe he is a raper and just woke up and realized he was losing money. Now it will take forever to finish this round.

Something tells me he optimized minerd as well.  I remember in the quark days CPU hash rate was around 40khash for quite some time before someone found a way to get in into the 80-90 khash per core range.  I don't see why the same thing couldn't be done with these new hashing algorithms.
legendary
Activity: 1176
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I got a free account with microsoft and a free 30 day trial of azure - allows me to run 20 cores (each gets about 33kh/s) and point them at my pool - If a number of others can jump on this then perhaps we could generate some kh/s to offset this whale?

I realize that it will take alot of folks at 660kh/s - but it is something - and it only took me about 30 min to set up...

I may be mistaken, but that Azure free 1 month trial is $200 credit to use up to one month.  If you have 20 cores, sounds like you will burn through the $200 monthly credit very quickly.

About four days of continuous use at 20 cores.
Even at this reduced rate, whale is using ~30000 cores, would need 1000+ people to Azure. At least whale isnt being totally antisocial, if he was a true raper, he would be totally gone now and wait a week to come back. Maybe he calculates more profits with this method or maybe he REALLY likes this coin?

Edit: Hmmm, maybe he is a raper and just woke up and realized he was losing money. Now it will take forever to finish this round.
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Activity: 280
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Who cares?
The whale is down to under 400 mhash now. 
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Who cares?
I got a free account with microsoft and a free 30 day trial of azure - allows me to run 20 cores (each gets about 33kh/s) and point them at my pool - If a number of others can jump on this then perhaps we could generate some kh/s to offset this whale?

I realize that it will take alot of folks at 660kh/s - but it is something - and it only took me about 30 min to set up...

I may be mistaken, but that Azure free 1 month trial is $200 credit to use up to one month.  If you have 20 cores, sounds like you will burn through the $200 monthly credit very quickly.

About four days of continuous use at 20 cores.
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