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Topic: [ANN][EAC] EarthCoin *SEEKING NEW EXCHANGES - HUGE VOLUMES BEING MISSED! - page 103. (Read 840344 times)

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Yeah I did read it. It was a very good post!

Just Fyi, one of the open tasks at this moment is to allign or atleast flag inconsitancies between our websites. This should only consume time but still this is not being picked up by anyone. Yet it requires no real skills.
And it may sound like I am attacking Biomech with this comment, but that is not intended.
 
PM me with the details. I'm off to bed right now, as it's 2:27 AM and I have shit to do tomorrow, but this sounds like something right up my alley.

I have lots of skills that might not be considered real Cheesy

I also have a couple promo ideas that just popped into my head. No details until I think about it more, cuz I'm tired and it might end up being stupid. One of 'em involves gambling. Don't know your stance on that, but I'm a gambler and I support gambling as valid promotion. If I do that one, I'll do it on my own hook and say so, but it'll be denominated in EAC.

And with that, I'm off to bed. I want this coin to succeed, and will help in whatever small capacity I can offer.

Also, I have a lot of experience as a manager in food service. I'm not sure where that skill might be helpful, but if you or others have use of it, let me know.

Sent you a PM.
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So maybe I should ask just 1 question: What emotion is holding you back to actually help EarthCoin?

My lack of help has nothing to do with emotion... it called being human. I help manage a growing farm, I am studying a nursing degree full-time, I work various security details, and I am a personal trainer, plus being a husband and father. On top of this I am learning a whole new language and skillset by mining and supporting crypto-currency.

There only so much one can do and as I type this it has been 36 hours since I was last in bed and got any decent sleep.

I am doing my best to find some time each day to do something with EAC even if it is complain on the forums!!!
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Yeah I did read it. It was a very good post!

Just Fyi, one of the open tasks at this moment is to allign or atleast flag inconsitancies between our websites. This should only consume time but still this is not being picked up by anyone. Yet it requires no real skills.
And it may sound like I am attacking Biomech with this comment, but that is not intended.
 
PM me with the details. I'm off to bed right now, as it's 2:27 AM and I have shit to do tomorrow, but this sounds like something right up my alley.

I have lots of skills that might not be considered real Cheesy

I also have a couple promo ideas that just popped into my head. No details until I think about it more, cuz I'm tired and it might end up being stupid. One of 'em involves gambling. Don't know your stance on that, but I'm a gambler and I support gambling as valid promotion. If I do that one, I'll do it on my own hook and say so, but it'll be denominated in EAC.

And with that, I'm off to bed. I want this coin to succeed, and will help in whatever small capacity I can offer.

Also, I have a lot of experience as a manager in food service. I'm not sure where that skill might be helpful, but if you or others have use of it, let me know.
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Yeah I did read it. It was a very good post!

Just Fyi, one of the open tasks at this moment is to allign or atleast flag inconsitancies between our websites. This should only consume time but still this is not being picked up by anyone. Yet it requires no real skills.
And it may sound like I am attacking Biomech with this comment, but that is not intended.
 
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WTB 10btc worth of EACs at 25 satoshi.

PM me.
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I have been considering this as well the last few days. You and biomech make a good point about asics. I have also been considering what Wes had said about changing the script. Making extensive changes may not be the way to get accepted on the Chinese exchanges; it's all a big guess, takes up time and resources, and may do no good in the end. I think the community needs to have an in-depth discussion on the pros and cons of any technological changes.

I think focusing our resources towards branding, social aspects including charities and community, and building our infrastructure may be a better way to move forward.

I have also been talking with some Chinese alibaba sellers; they have some interest in porting their stores to Earthazaar. Maybe with enough trade and the right types of branding and promotion we may not need to pursue these exchanges, they may start organically adding Earthcoin.

I would support implementing Kimoto Gravity Well... nothing else... anything more is not worth the time and agro. I just went through a fork with the Klondikecoin team as a support person... meaning I provided hash-rate... to reduce block reward and etc... has nearly killed the coin... and the team... at one point my farm was mining 4 separate forks. The network hash-rate has fallen to vulnerable levels... sub-200Mh/s... and the trade volume is critically thin... the coin is on life-support... it will only survive by the sheer determination of the community and team. And the products and services that can be bought directly with KDC is far greater than EAC. The miners have left and the buyers/sellers cannot trade... and for the record... I was publicly opposed to the fork.

The one thing that has kept me 'loyal' to EAC is the strength of the coin code. I have never been involved with a coin that can take so much abuse and keep coming back. Only week ago or so during the last x5 rewards day... EAC had a network hash-rate of 16Gh/s... it was getting hammered with spikes of 6 - 8Gh/s without a hiccup... no forking, no issues... to me that is a real testament to the coin dev who wrote the code for EAC. And a matter to not be taken lightly. Anything that jepoardises this stability I am opposed to.

The only real thing that needs to change with EAC is for the Dev team to come out from behind their smokescreens and get dirty. Look at NobleCoin and KlondikeCoin... younger and much weaker coins with much great services and assets.  After 3 months... we don't even had an Android app... Mint launched with their own exchange... don't try to bluff me with your 'busy' behind the scenes, we need to feel secure' stunts. Either there is a development team or there isn't. So far there isn't because EAC has been completely dependent on the community to survive. So make up your minds, either develop the coin or hand in your retirement papers.

You(Centurion76) have to take a lion's share of the credit for EAC being where it is today. You have publicly put more time and effort into EAC than the dev team combined. Can you add Raspberry PI's and Gridseeds to Earthazaar?

So yes... I agree with you...

I think focusing our resources towards branding, social aspects including charities and community, and building our infrastructure may be a better way to move forward.

I agree with you completly. Focus toward branding and social aspects and such should be main priority and could be started right this minute. But somehow we find an excuse not to do so each and every day. I wonder if there will be any change to what needs to be done in the coming few days. I have the feeling that the IRC chat and waiting for the premine results will get us stalled even further. And maybe we find something else to stall us even further.

So maybe I should ask just 1 question: What emotion is holding you back to actually help EarthCoin?
In my case, no excuses. Just lack of resources, or direction I suppose. I'm trying to put some things together to sell on Earthazaar. I have served as something of a cheerleader, because I'm dead broke and it's the best I can do at the moment.

I can't say I don't care what the devs have to say, but it won't change my position much, if any. BTW, did you get a chance to read my post at earthcointalk yet?

As a suggestion to the devs (and I hope I can get in on the IRC chat) I would suggest they read the way Ultracoin handled their premine. That, I thought, was pretty innovative, very open, and highly likely to boost the exchange price of the coin.
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I have been considering this as well the last few days. You and biomech make a good point about asics. I have also been considering what Wes had said about changing the script. Making extensive changes may not be the way to get accepted on the Chinese exchanges; it's all a big guess, takes up time and resources, and may do no good in the end. I think the community needs to have an in-depth discussion on the pros and cons of any technological changes.

I think focusing our resources towards branding, social aspects including charities and community, and building our infrastructure may be a better way to move forward.

I have also been talking with some Chinese alibaba sellers; they have some interest in porting their stores to Earthazaar. Maybe with enough trade and the right types of branding and promotion we may not need to pursue these exchanges, they may start organically adding Earthcoin.

I would support implementing Kimoto Gravity Well... nothing else... anything more is not worth the time and agro. I just went through a fork with the Klondikecoin team as a support person... meaning I provided hash-rate... to reduce block reward and etc... has nearly killed the coin... and the team... at one point my farm was mining 4 separate forks. The network hash-rate has fallen to vulnerable levels... sub-200Mh/s... and the trade volume is critically thin... the coin is on life-support... it will only survive by the sheer determination of the community and team. And the products and services that can be bought directly with KDC is far greater than EAC. The miners have left and the buyers/sellers cannot trade... and for the record... I was publicly opposed to the fork.

The one thing that has kept me 'loyal' to EAC is the strength of the coin code. I have never been involved with a coin that can take so much abuse and keep coming back. Only week ago or so during the last x5 rewards day... EAC had a network hash-rate of 16Gh/s... it was getting hammered with spikes of 6 - 8Gh/s without a hiccup... no forking, no issues... to me that is a real testament to the coin dev who wrote the code for EAC. And a matter to not be taken lightly. Anything that jepoardises this stability I am opposed to.

The only real thing that needs to change with EAC is for the Dev team to come out from behind their smokescreens and get dirty. Look at NobleCoin and KlondikeCoin... younger and much weaker coins with much great services and assets.  After 3 months... we don't even had an Android app... Mint launched with their own exchange... don't try to bluff me with your 'busy' behind the scenes, we need to feel secure' stunts. Either there is a development team or there isn't. So far there isn't because EAC has been completely dependent on the community to survive. So make up your minds, either develop the coin or hand in your retirement papers.

You(Centurion76) have to take a lion's share of the credit for EAC being where it is today. You have publicly put more time and effort into EAC than the dev team combined. Can you add Raspberry PI's and Gridseeds to Earthazaar?

So yes... I agree with you...

I think focusing our resources towards branding, social aspects including charities and community, and building our infrastructure may be a better way to move forward.

I agree with you completly. Focus toward branding and social aspects and such should be main priority and could be started right this minute. But somehow we find an excuse not to do so each and every day. I wonder if there will be any change to what needs to be done in the coming few days. I have the feeling that the IRC chat and waiting for the premine results will get us stalled even further. And maybe we find something else to stall us even further.

So maybe I should ask just 1 question: What emotion is holding you back to actually help EarthCoin?
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Hi family,

We are going to try to coordinate an IRC chat later today (Thursday) for the EAC team to be there for an open Q&A and some disclosure for you guys from the premine concerns and some info re the internal team.

Will let you guys know more when we start our day re what time will work best.

Cheers.

Good idea, but a little bit to late. the interest in eac is nearly zero.....
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Qoinpro has the option to unlock EAC.  Grin
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Tell us more, please! With gridseed units, I'll pretty much guarantee you could do significantly better than 10MH/s, and I personally have NO reason to limit myself to Scrypt. BTC miners are looking at a negative income from their ASIC devices in the near future at the current rate of expansion. 10K isn't that bad to indefinitely extend the useful life of a 20-30K investment.

Worth it for the PR, yes, secondarily. Worth it to profit off of established miners AND those with BTC/EAC to invest in the future? Priceless.


The catch is that, you need the batteries to store the juice for 2-3 days of low-no sun,  so even at 100watts, thats 2.4 kWh a day of power generation and storage at roughly 75% efficiency (so you need to grab and 'store' 3.0kWh) For just 100watts of hash-power.    That isn't a huge investment but its not cheap!   But it would make cool PR

Its funny, after thinking about this,  my entire house doesn't use much more than 3.0kWh a day,  or what would be needed to run 1 gridseed.  

Crazy!

So, aside from storage, your system is straight solarvoltaic?


Yeah, I have 2kWh of panels on the roof,  on a rainy day they only produce 500Watts, on full sun they produce 8-9Kwh.       My 'life-saver' is a old-school diesel generator that I run on waste cooking oil.   It produces 3kWh per hour and 25,000 BTU's of hot water per hour.  While only burning a liter of waste cooking oil.   If it was not for the generator I would need a system twice the size.   
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Tell us more, please! With gridseed units, I'll pretty much guarantee you could do significantly better than 10MH/s, and I personally have NO reason to limit myself to Scrypt. BTC miners are looking at a negative income from their ASIC devices in the near future at the current rate of expansion. 10K isn't that bad to indefinitely extend the useful life of a 20-30K investment.

Worth it for the PR, yes, secondarily. Worth it to profit off of established miners AND those with BTC/EAC to invest in the future? Priceless.


The catch is that, you need the batteries to store the juice for 2-3 days of low-no sun,  so even at 100watts, thats 2.4 kWh a day of power generation and storage at roughly 75% efficiency (so you need to grab and 'store' 3.0kWh) For just 100watts of hash-power.    That isn't a huge investment but its not cheap!   But it would make cool PR

Its funny, after thinking about this,  my entire house doesn't use much more than 3.0kWh a day,  or what would be needed to run 1 gridseed.  

Crazy!

So, aside from storage, your system is straight solarvoltaic?
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Tell us more, please! With gridseed units, I'll pretty much guarantee you could do significantly better than 10MH/s, and I personally have NO reason to limit myself to Scrypt. BTC miners are looking at a negative income from their ASIC devices in the near future at the current rate of expansion. 10K isn't that bad to indefinitely extend the useful life of a 20-30K investment.

Worth it for the PR, yes, secondarily. Worth it to profit off of established miners AND those with BTC/EAC to invest in the future? Priceless.


The catch is that, you need the batteries to store the juice for 2-3 days of low-no sun,  so even at 100watts, thats 2.4 kWh a day of power generation and storage at roughly 75% efficiency (so you need to grab and 'store' 3.0kWh) For just 100watts of hash-power.    That isn't a huge investment but its not cheap!   But it would make cool PR

Its funny, after thinking about this,  my entire house doesn't use much more than 3.0kWh a day,  or what would be needed to run 1 gridseed.  

Crazy!
legendary
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Hi family,

We are going to try to coordinate an IRC chat later today (Thursday) for the EAC team to be there for an open Q&A and some disclosure for you guys from the premine concerns and some info re the internal team.

Will let you guys know more when we start our day re what time will work best.

Cheers.

Very good! I've got a lot going on tomorrow, but I'll try to be there. Somebody transcribe this, eh? Cheesy
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Hi family,

We are going to try to coordinate an IRC chat later today (Thursday) for the EAC team to be there for an open Q&A and some disclosure for you guys from the premine concerns and some info re the internal team.

Will let you guys know more when we start our day re what time will work best.

Cheers.

can you give a GMT time?
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Hi family,

We are going to try to coordinate an IRC chat later today (Thursday) for the EAC team to be there for an open Q&A and some disclosure for you guys from the premine concerns and some info re the internal team.

Will let you guys know more when we start our day re what time will work best.

Cheers.


Fantastic!
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Hi family,

We are going to try to coordinate an IRC chat later today (Thursday) for the EAC team to be there for an open Q&A and some disclosure for you guys from the premine concerns and some info re the internal team.

Will let you guys know more when we start our day re what time will work best.

Cheers.
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Finally someone in scrypt coin talking sense about ASIC's!

There is nothing magical about ASIC's. They simply perform one or two tasks very efficiently. That's GOOD for scrypt coins. the fact that people are developing them means that this algo is NOT going away.

SHA-256 ASIC's are relatively easy to make, whereas the Scrypt algo adds in a very memory intensive additional task. Basically, this means that you need ram as well as ASIC's, and ram is more expensive to manufacture. However, it's also common as dirt. There was only one way that ASIC's wouldn't come to scrypt, and that was the failure of the coin(s).

I am going to make brash statement... GPU farms are dirty, destructive, resource-hogging, environmentally-unfriendly, inefficient, expensive disasters waiting to happen... that is coming from someone(myself) who is well known among friends as a hard-right wing, petroleum guzzling, capitalist pig!

I own and maintain a 15Mh/s system... it requires 7500KW of power, has turned my nice cool basement into the hottest room on the property and needs regular maintenance and repairs... all for only 15Mh/s.

We have to embrace ASIC's... it is the only way forward. GPU farms are simply too wasteful.

You made a post somewhere in this thread about a steam/solar/generator/mining system... nearly impossible with a GPU farm... even the most efficient 3x270 rig requires 600W 24/7 for only 1.3Mh/s. But with a small, efficient ASIC miner, you could run a 1 to 2 Mh/s system with a solar panel and wireless connection.

Earthcoin... GPU farms are not earth friendly... if that is something you are concerned about.
Yeah, I agree here. The Gridseed scrypt asics are running 3.5 MH/s for 100ish watts, and they are out there right now. Fighting the tide is useless, even if it were desirable. I am of the strong opinion that the future of mining depends on both the development of ASIC devices (of which all of the current ones are crude by comparison to what they can be, regardless of process node) and off grid power. As for the the specifics of power systems, I'm talking with Phoenix1969, who has already started some research in that direction, and doing my own research. Off grid power is something I have been interested in for several decades. My father is an electrician with an imagination, and he and I have discussed it for all of my life. The approach that seems best to me has batteries as your main feed, and a bunch of different things charging those batteries. Solar steam is an interesting one, and largely undeveloped as most developers are looking for large scale generation. Even in this, Centralization rears it's ugly head and heads off thought. But a combination of solarvoltaic, solar steam, wind, and where available, small scale hydro seems to me to be the way to go. So much so that I am trying to develop it as a business, with mining as my main focus.

You're right, it would be good publicity for earthcoin, as all of those solutions are either non polluting or a very small footprint. The batteries that I favor are deep cycle batteries such as used in golf carts. They are old tech, and if you take care in their maintenance, non polluting. The rest, there is some pollution in the manufacturing chain, but not much. Small scale hydro can be done with water wheels turning automotive alternators. They are made to work under variable RPM and find their way into landfills and smelters in great quantity. As far as I'm concerned, that's a huge waste of readily available resources.

EDIT: Typos.


FIY,  I live off grid and have for years.    Its not impossible but it would be pretty tough to run even small mining/nodes totally autonomously.  Much easier in the sun-belt.  But you are talk a ten-thousand dollar investment up front, to secure maybe at best 10mhs of scrypt ASIC power 24/7 with minimal downtime.

I could build that system easily the question is,  is the PR worth it? Wink

Tell us more, please! With gridseed units, I'll pretty much guarantee you could do significantly better than 10MH/s, and I personally have NO reason to limit myself to Scrypt. BTC miners are looking at a negative income from their ASIC devices in the near future at the current rate of expansion. 10K isn't that bad to indefinitely extend the useful life of a 20-30K investment.

Worth it for the PR, yes, secondarily. Worth it to profit off of established miners AND those with BTC/EAC to invest in the future? Priceless.
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Finally someone in scrypt coin talking sense about ASIC's!

There is nothing magical about ASIC's. They simply perform one or two tasks very efficiently. That's GOOD for scrypt coins. the fact that people are developing them means that this algo is NOT going away.

SHA-256 ASIC's are relatively easy to make, whereas the Scrypt algo adds in a very memory intensive additional task. Basically, this means that you need ram as well as ASIC's, and ram is more expensive to manufacture. However, it's also common as dirt. There was only one way that ASIC's wouldn't come to scrypt, and that was the failure of the coin(s).

I am going to make brash statement... GPU farms are dirty, destructive, resource-hogging, environmentally-unfriendly, inefficient, expensive disasters waiting to happen... that is coming from someone(myself) who is well known among friends as a hard-right wing, petroleum guzzling, capitalist pig!

I own and maintain a 15Mh/s system... it requires 7500KW of power, has turned my nice cool basement into the hottest room on the property and needs regular maintenance and repairs... all for only 15Mh/s.

We have to embrace ASIC's... it is the only way forward. GPU farms are simply too wasteful.

You made a post somewhere in this thread about a steam/solar/generator/mining system... nearly impossible with a GPU farm... even the most efficient 3x270 rig requires 600W 24/7 for only 1.3Mh/s. But with a small, efficient ASIC miner, you could run a 1 to 2 Mh/s system with a solar panel and wireless connection.

Earthcoin... GPU farms are not earth friendly... if that is something you are concerned about.
Yeah, I agree here. The Gridseed scrypt asics are running 3.5 MH/s for 100ish watts, and they are out there right now. Fighting the tide is useless, even if it were desirable. I am of the strong opinion that the future of mining depends on both the development of ASIC devices (of which all of the current ones are crude by comparison to what they can be, regardless of process node) and off grid power. As for the the specifics of power systems, I'm talking with Phoenix1969, who has already started some research in that direction, and doing my own research. Off grid power is something I have been interested in for several decades. My father is an electrician with an imagination, and he and I have discussed it for all of my life. The approach that seems best to me has batteries as your main feed, and a bunch of different things charging those batteries. Solar steam is an interesting one, and largely undeveloped as most developers are looking for large scale generation. Even in this, Centralization rears it's ugly head and heads off thought. But a combination of solarvoltaic, solar steam, wind, and where available, small scale hydro seems to me to be the way to go. So much so that I am trying to develop it as a business, with mining as my main focus.

You're right, it would be good publicity for earthcoin, as all of those solutions are either non polluting or a very small footprint. The batteries that I favor are deep cycle batteries such as used in golf carts. They are old tech, and if you take care in their maintenance, non polluting. The rest, there is some pollution in the manufacturing chain, but not much. Small scale hydro can be done with water wheels turning automotive alternators. They are made to work under variable RPM and find their way into landfills and smelters in great quantity. As far as I'm concerned, that's a huge waste of readily available resources.

EDIT: Typos.


FIY,  I live off grid and have for years.    Its not impossible but it would be pretty tough to run even small mining/nodes totally autonomously.  Much easier in the sun-belt.  But you are talk a ten-thousand dollar investment up front, to secure maybe at best 10mhs of scrypt ASIC power 24/7 with minimal downtime.

I could build that system easily the question is,  is the PR worth it? Wink
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I posted up a rather long post at earthcointalk. Don't feel like retyping or copying it, so here's the link.

Wes and other devs ought to have a look.
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