[ANN][EAC] EarthCoin *SEEKING NEW EXCHANGES - HUGE VOLUMES BEING MISSED! - page 399.

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Quote from: meade16 on January 04, 2014, 05:56:43 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:04:24 PM

someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....

can anyone be more obvious?

It's gone.

just saw it, too.....

it'll appear again if we get back to 500, I bet...

they'll do this until we hit cryptsy

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Quote from: earthcoin on January 04, 2014, 06:02:17 PM

Quote from: mrbrdo on January 04, 2014, 05:58:08 PM

Quote from: earthcoin on January 04, 2014, 05:55:24 PM

There is nothing fake about the screenshot mate, I took it myself, I blurred out important info myself, that's his original picture and that's the same pic he uses on his twitter stuff, nothing was altered, pasted, removed, replaced. Contact Paul yourself and ask him to quantify it

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It's not really important. But I am curious why the blur of the text to the right of the picture suddenly stops (it should be a ellipse/circle but it is cut on the left side, next to the picture). Just to satisfy my curiosity...

In photoshop you simply draw a shape/box/whatever around whatever area you want and give it a guassian blur in order to blur it. There's also 101 other treatments/sequences to achieve the same but that's what I did, there's no 'fade edges' on this blur it just blurs right to the edge of my marquee selection which was a bunch of rectangles not circles.

Makes sense now

Cool. I did not doubt that there is shady stuff going on btw, just curious.

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Quote from: mrbrdo on January 04, 2014, 05:58:08 PM

Quote from: earthcoin on January 04, 2014, 05:55:24 PM

There is nothing fake about the screenshot mate, I took it myself, I blurred out important info myself, that's his original picture and that's the same pic he uses on his twitter stuff, nothing was altered, pasted, removed, replaced. Contact Paul yourself and ask him to quantify it

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It's not really important. But I am curious why the blur of the text to the right of the picture suddenly stops (it should be a ellipse/circle but it is cut on the left side, next to the picture). Just to satisfy my curiosity...

In photoshop you simply draw a shape/box/whatever around whatever area you want and give it a guassian blur in order to blur it. There's also 101 other treatments/sequences to achieve the same but that's what I did, there's no 'fade edges' on this blur it just blurs right to the edge of my marquee selection which was a bunch of rectangles not circles.

EDIT: No offense taken and glad to satisfy your curiosity, if you had doubts then others might as well, so it's good for all to understand.

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Quote from: earthcoin on January 04, 2014, 05:55:24 PM

There is nothing fake about the screenshot mate, I took it myself, I blurred out important info myself, that's his original picture and that's the same pic he uses on his twitter stuff, nothing was altered, pasted, removed, replaced. Contact Paul yourself and ask him to quantify it

.

It's not really important. But I am curious why the blur of the text to the right of the picture suddenly stops (it should be a ellipse/circle but it is cut on the left side, next to the picture). Just to satisfy my curiosity...

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Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:04:24 PM

someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....

can anyone be more obvious?

It's gone.

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Quote from: mrbrdo on January 04, 2014, 05:46:47 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 04:58:08 PM

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Then explain the blur pattern just to the right of Vern's photo...

You guys are unbelievable.. First of all, if would someone want to fake it, then he doesn't have to photoshop a stupid skype screenshot. You can simple make
new skype account with same picture and name. And why to hell does it even matter, we will see in few days if it goes on cryptsy or not.
Sorry, but you're really ridiculous with cryptsy and this conspiracy things.

+1

The blur is from the poster smudging info he want to keep private,what do you think it signifies?

I mean that the blur suddenly cuts off at the right edge of the photo, and therefore looks like the screenshot was first blurred and then the photo was copied there afterwards. If your on a laptop try to tilt the screen backwards a bit, you will see it clearer.
Don't get me wrong I am invested in this coin and have all interest for it to succeed, but I just find it weird how that looks.

what I'm gonna say is not about this case here... it's a general advice for people who are drawn to this kind of conclusions:

a) how much work would it be if it was fake and made not to look "suspicious"?

I recon less than blurring parts of the picture. just make a screenshot of only the text and simply state it's Vern, or copy parte the picture ontop of another picture without blurring anything....

b) this is not a thing that's far in the future anyway. why make a claim that will be proven false next week? makes no sense

c) motive alone proves nothing. that is the go-to "proof" of conspiracy theorists. make up some motive, even if it's a bat shit crazy one, like "Bush wanted war, so he blew up the twin towers"

motive is often nothing than your own projections onto a subject.
e.g. people who already subconsciously sympathize with Muslim extremists anyway cause they hate the Jews, project a convenient "motive" onto someone else, who not only takes away a feeling of guilt, but also takes the blame and reinforces their own beliefs

it's a circular way of thinking that can not be proven wrong OR right in the mind of the believer. and that's what makes it so dangerous. it locks you into a state of mind that limits your capability of doubting your own beliefs

think about that... just some general advice to the "cui bono" crowd

I didn't say there is any motive. I'm just saying it's really weird. The only plausible explanation I can come up with is they wanted to not show his real Skype picture. This doesn't really affect my view of EAC though, at least not yet.

There is nothing fake about the screenshot mate, I took it myself, I blurred out important info myself, that's his original picture and that's the same pic he uses on his twitter stuff, nothing was altered, pasted, removed, replaced. Contact Paul yourself and ask him to quantify it

.

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Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 04:58:08 PM

Quote from: mrbrdo on January 04, 2014, 04:33:37 PM

Quote from: alz on January 04, 2014, 08:29:18 AM

Quote from: thens on January 04, 2014, 08:21:50 AM

Quote from: mrbrdo on January 04, 2014, 08:16:08 AM

Then explain the blur pattern just to the right of Vern's photo...

You guys are unbelievable.. First of all, if would someone want to fake it, then he doesn't have to photoshop a stupid skype screenshot. You can simple make
new skype account with same picture and name. And why to hell does it even matter, we will see in few days if it goes on cryptsy or not.
Sorry, but you're really ridiculous with cryptsy and this conspiracy things.

+1

The blur is from the poster smudging info he want to keep private,what do you think it signifies?

I mean that the blur suddenly cuts off at the right edge of the photo, and therefore looks like the screenshot was first blurred and then the photo was copied there afterwards. If your on a laptop try to tilt the screen backwards a bit, you will see it clearer.
Don't get me wrong I am invested in this coin and have all interest for it to succeed, but I just find it weird how that looks.

what I'm gonna say is not about this case here... it's a general advice for people who are drawn to this kind of conclusions:

a) how much work would it be if it was fake and made not to look "suspicious"?

I recon less than blurring parts of the picture. just make a screenshot of only the text and simply state it's Vern, or copy parte the picture ontop of another picture without blurring anything....

b) this is not a thing that's far in the future anyway. why make a claim that will be proven false next week? makes no sense

c) motive alone proves nothing. that is the go-to "proof" of conspiracy theorists. make up some motive, even if it's a bat shit crazy one, like "Bush wanted war, so he blew up the twin towers"

motive is often nothing than your own projections onto a subject.
e.g. people who already subconsciously sympathize with Muslim extremists anyway cause they hate the Jews, project a convenient "motive" onto someone else, who not only takes away a feeling of guilt, but also takes the blame and reinforces their own beliefs

it's a circular way of thinking that can not be proven wrong OR right in the mind of the believer. and that's what makes it so dangerous. it locks you into a state of mind that limits your capability of doubting your own beliefs

think about that... just some general advice to the "cui bono" crowd

I didn't say there is any motive. I'm just saying it's really weird. The only plausible explanation I can come up with is they wanted to not show his real Skype picture. This doesn't really affect my view of EAC though, at least not yet.

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It's on a few exchanges, funny scenario:

Coinex needs only a tiny amount of btc to pump it - another market maker notices it's flying on coinex, and checks coinedup, and buys this guys fake walls in one shot. Don't be surprised to start seeing this kind of stuff as we attract some of the bigger players once we hit bigger exchanges.

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It would be suspicious if Cryptsy adds EAC in a couple hours...

Sure would!

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Quote from: earthcoin on January 04, 2014, 05:30:15 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:23:47 PM

Quote from: SvenTaylor1980 on January 04, 2014, 05:16:11 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:09:02 PM

Quote from: meade16 on January 04, 2014, 05:07:01 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:04:24 PM

someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....

can anyone be more obvious?

Yes, i see it

and right after we broke through the downtrend.... how curious... Roll Eyes

A welcome from the pre-miners at the exchange?

I've actually traded on real (stock) markets. I've traded pennystocks as well. I've actually done this myself. it's such a common tactic that only works on very low volume markets.

put up a huge order that can not be filled by the current volume and force people who need to/want to sell to underbid you.

this creates falling prices, and make people who are not even online, but put automatic sell orders in place if prices drop to XXX to sell their shares, creating more pressure downwards. all the while you sold little or nothing yourself.

then when it does not go down any more, you sack in shares and voila! win...

and that's not a wild theory. that's what drives these markets.

once volume is high enough this will be too risky... people might actually buy the whole block, like someone did yesterday to one who had done this for hours with a 400-500k block. he bought the whole block at 250 or so...

if the preminers wanted to sell, really sell, they'd put up small orders that do not look conspicuous and that will actually be sold and NOT underbid

+1

You guys want to study good fear/greed tactics, stare at the btc-e books and refresh a lot or look at the deep books of bitcoin.clarkmoody.com and you'll start to see how market makers work (sometimes they work in groups or one guy+many machines/accounts building up 5+ fake walls on both sides cornering pricing to their differential of choice and moving whatever direction they want).

This is a textbook fakeout, and to those that know the game, it's a good look for overall big picture (a market maker believes it's going to rise).

Same thing happened literally 2 hours before Cryptsy listed Lotto.
It would be suspicious if Cryptsy adds EAC in a couple hours...

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Personally i don't mind, as i'm keeping my coins for a longer while anyway. I only made that mistake once with PPC. A couple of weeks ago it was falling like a rock down to $1.97 / PPC. I sold and was pissed of that it was rising straight after my sell. I then had to buy back in at $2.90 / PPC. That way i lost a huge ammount. That will not happen again, at least not to me.

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Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:23:47 PM

Quote from: SvenTaylor1980 on January 04, 2014, 05:16:11 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:09:02 PM

Quote from: meade16 on January 04, 2014, 05:07:01 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:04:24 PM

someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....

can anyone be more obvious?

Yes, i see it

and right after we broke through the downtrend.... how curious... Roll Eyes

A welcome from the pre-miners at the exchange?

I've actually traded on real (stock) markets. I've traded pennystocks as well. I've actually done this myself. it's such a common tactic that only works on very low volume markets.

put up a huge order that can not be filled by the current volume and force people who need to/want to sell to underbid you.

this creates falling prices, and make people who are not even online, but put automatic sell orders in place if prices drop to XXX to sell their shares, creating more pressure downwards. all the while you sold little or nothing yourself.

then when it does not go down any more, you sack in shares and voila! win...

and that's not a wild theory. that's what drives these markets.

once volume is high enough this will be too risky... people might actually buy the whole block, like someone did yesterday to one who had done this for hours with a 400-500k block. he bought the whole block at 250 or so...

if the preminers wanted to sell, really sell, they'd put up small orders that do not look conspicuous and that will actually be sold and NOT underbid

+1

You guys want to study good fear/greed tactics, stare at the btc-e books and refresh a lot or look at the deep books of bitcoin.clarkmoody.com and you'll start to see how market makers work. I refer to those two as the liquidity is there to do it well with a lot of people/fast results (sometimes they work in groups or one guy+many machines/accounts building up 5+ fake walls on both sides cornering pricing to their differential of choice and moving whatever direction they want).

This is a textbook fakeout, and to those that know the game, it's a good look for overall big picture (a market maker believes it's going to rise, and pushes people into his low buy orders, big sell wall, small buys descending).

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Quote from: SvenTaylor1980 on January 04, 2014, 05:16:11 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:09:02 PM

Quote from: meade16 on January 04, 2014, 05:07:01 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:04:24 PM

someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....

can anyone be more obvious?

Yes, i see it

and right after we broke through the downtrend.... how curious... Roll Eyes

A welcome from the pre-miners at the exchange?

I've actually traded on real (stock) markets. I've traded pennystocks as well. I've actually done this myself. it's such a common tactic that only works on very low volume markets.

put up a huge order that can not be filled by the current volume and force people who need to/want to sell to underbid you.

this creates falling prices, and make people who are not even online, but put automatic sell orders in place if prices drop to XXX to sell their shares, creating more pressure downwards. all the while you sold little or nothing yourself.

then when it does not go down any more, you sack in shares and voila! win...

and that's not a wild theory. that's what drives these markets.

once volume is high enough this will be too risky... people might actually buy the whole block, like someone did yesterday to one who had done this for hours with a 400-500k block. he bought the whole block at 250 or so...

if the preminers wanted to sell, really sell, they'd put up small orders that do not look conspicuous and that will actually be sold and NOT underbid

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Quote from: SvenTaylor1980 on January 04, 2014, 05:16:11 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:09:02 PM

Quote from: meade16 on January 04, 2014, 05:07:01 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:04:24 PM

someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....

can anyone be more obvious?

Yes, i see it

and right after we broke through the downtrend.... how curious... Roll Eyes

A welcome from the pre-miners at the exchange?

No, one of the farms that locked onto double reward day yesterday is "dumping" everything.

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Hi !

What is going on with coinium ?

My miner disconnects all the time and the site is down...

Reminds me the very first day of Dogecoin when I lost a LOT of mining time and coins sticking with one pool ....

Website is offline

The server may be down for maintenance, there may be a network problem, or the site may be experiencing excessive load.

not sure what you guys are doing wrong - I can log in and out and in at leisure - no problem at all

Perhaps it's a location thing? We may be on different servers

Well, I'm in France, and I use the EU stratum. Maybe that's why I had a lot of disconnections.
Right now my miner is running fine. The front end is working super slow/not working.

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Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:09:02 PM

Quote from: meade16 on January 04, 2014, 05:07:01 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:04:24 PM

someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....

can anyone be more obvious?

Yes, i see it

and right after we broke through the downtrend.... how curious... Roll Eyes

A welcome from the pre-miners at the exchange?

testbitcoiner

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Quote from: tins on January 04, 2014, 05:08:18 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:04:24 PM

someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....

can anyone be more obvious?

Seems to be working, they already got one person to put a sell order below it.
Roll Eyes

there was a 5 mil or so sell order at 700 on coined up, which is gone now... I bet it's the same guy... he just lowered it

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Quote from: earthcoin on January 04, 2014, 02:53:02 PM

This is true. DOGE was lower than EAC before cryptsy. CAT was lower as well. I can't recall a coin that did
this well for market cap without being on Cryptsy.

It could blow to 10 million cap once listed. And this may be one of the few coins that doesn't crash too badly
after listing. I would say that it's low will be higher than where it is now on coinedup.

So spike to 2000 - maybe down to 600-700 same day. Then up... up. Nice and calmly. Or maybe bounce
around between those for 2-3 days then settle at 1000-1200 then up over time. Or after 1200 settling then it goes up
quickly then crash when it gets to 5000. We will see!

That's a really rough guess from everything I am seeing.

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Quote from: meade16 on January 04, 2014, 05:07:01 PM

Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:04:24 PM

someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....

can anyone be more obvious?

Yes, i see it

and right after we broke through the downtrend.... how curious... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: testbitcoiner on January 04, 2014, 05:04:24 PM

someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....

can anyone be more obvious?

Seems to be working, they already got one person to put a sell order below it.
Roll Eyes

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