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Topic: [ANN][EFL] Electronic Gulden - NEWS! - ANDROID WALLET AVAILABLE! - page 17. (Read 106061 times)

hero member
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Looks like the price has collapsed quite a bit within the last 24 hours or so

Any idea as to why? 



It has fallen from 0.00015 to 0.00010 in a couple of hours at Bittrex. 

However, the difficulty is decreasing too. The difficulty was quite high two days ago (when the price was also high). I think many miners jumped on the coin and now sold many of their coins.

Well it is falling too fast maybe someone is tanking in and driving the price down
legendary
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Live like there is no tomorrow!
Looks like the price has collapsed quite a bit within the last 24 hours or so

Any idea as to why? 



It has fallen from 0.00015 to 0.00010 in a couple of hours at Bittrex. 

However, the difficulty is decreasing too. The difficulty was quite high two days ago (when the price was also high). I think many miners jumped on the coin and now sold many of their coins.
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
Looks like the price has collapsed quite a bit within the last 24 hours or so

Any idea as to why? 

legendary
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Live like there is no tomorrow!
I believe you, as I don't think you have a reason to lie here.

Unfortunately the worth of the 50 eGuldens isn't enough for me to publicate these kind of information yet Wink.
sr. member
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How do we know the dev is actually sending coins to people though? What if he just sends to new addresses he is making himself, thus dumping the coin and making the price fall, like it has lately.

We don't know.

Soon or later we will know real people (like 'real life' friends) who did send  their information to the team of this coin. And then we'll know whether they did actually pay.

Honestly, I think they really do. But i'm not going to send that kind of information to a stranger for just a piece of a BTC.

I sended my information, and I didnt even had a bill, but they gave me the 50 coins very quickly the same day.
So for me it all worked i also told my friends about this and a few want to do this to.
If u want any proof i can provide
legendary
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Live like there is no tomorrow!
How do we know the dev is actually sending coins to people though? What if he just sends to new addresses he is making himself, thus dumping the coin and making the price fall, like it has lately.

We don't know.

Soon or later we will know real people (like 'real life' friends) who did send  their information to the team of this coin. And then we'll know whether they did actually pay.

Honestly, I think they really do. But i'm not going to send that kind of information to a stranger for just a piece of a BTC.
HwM
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How do we know the dev is actually sending coins to people though? What if he just sends to new addresses he is making himself, thus dumping the coin and making the price fall, like it has lately.

We don't know.
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Will Bitcoin Rise Again to $60,000?
How do we know the dev is actually sending coins to people though? What if he just sends to new addresses he is making himself, thus dumping the coin and making the price fall, like it has lately.
sr. member
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I just don't feel uploading my bills and ID to some strangers on the internet.
Even banks use derivative verification. (Afgeleide verificatie)
In this case you can open a savings account at another bank, and validate your personal details by paying a small amount of money from a verified payment account from the other bank.

It's about the same way how oAuth works.

The devs have to trust a widely trusted company and use derivative verification. So why not upload a kraken screenshot, and pay a satoshi from a kraken address?

Never give your BSN to a stranger. Even not a part of it.

Some time ago there was a huge fraud on government payments in Amsterdam. Even if the devs are ok, documents can leak. In the Amsterdam case, it was probably caused by leaked/stolen mail.

Personal info like ID cards are worth millions in the underground world. This will work like a honeypot. Sooner or later, they will be hacked.

Be warned, being a victim of identity fraud can give you lifetime problems. Ask yourself if you want to put yourself at risk.



They could make it even easier. Transfer € 0.01 to their bank account from a dutch bank account. With IBAN this is easy, you just need to check that the IBAN starts with 'NL'. On the website you just need to enter your IBAN + wallet address, and maybe your name (same as bank account).

No risk of identity fraud then, and chances of foreigners having a dutch bank account aren't that big (about the same as foreigners with double nationality I guess).
like a paypal

Could be. It's a loooong time ago I verified my paypal account Smiley
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just noticed i had another 100 EFL in my http://efl.multi-pool.eu/ account and another 39 in my http://efl.cryptokillers.com/
Good to see it was still there this might actually be something of good value in a while  Cheesy
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Hi, Im Bitcoin trader and crypto enthusiast.
I just don't feel uploading my bills and ID to some strangers on the internet.
Even banks use derivative verification. (Afgeleide verificatie)
In this case you can open a savings account at another bank, and validate your personal details by paying a small amount of money from a verified payment account from the other bank.

It's about the same way how oAuth works.

The devs have to trust a widely trusted company and use derivative verification. So why not upload a kraken screenshot, and pay a satoshi from a kraken address?

Never give your BSN to a stranger. Even not a part of it.

Some time ago there was a huge fraud on government payments in Amsterdam. Even if the devs are ok, documents can leak. In the Amsterdam case, it was probably caused by leaked/stolen mail.

Personal info like ID cards are worth millions in the underground world. This will work like a honeypot. Sooner or later, they will be hacked.

Be warned, being a victim of identity fraud can give you lifetime problems. Ask yourself if you want to put yourself at risk.



They could make it even easier. Transfer € 0.01 to their bank account from a dutch bank account. With IBAN this is easy, you just need to check that the IBAN starts with 'NL'. On the website you just need to enter your IBAN + wallet address, and maybe your name (same as bank account).

No risk of identity fraud then, and chances of foreigners having a dutch bank account aren't that big (about the same as foreigners with double nationality I guess).
like a paypal
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
I just don't feel uploading my bills and ID to some strangers on the internet.
Even banks use derivative verification. (Afgeleide verificatie)
In this case you can open a savings account at another bank, and validate your personal details by paying a small amount of money from a verified payment account from the other bank.

It's about the same way how oAuth works.

The devs have to trust a widely trusted company and use derivative verification. So why not upload a kraken screenshot, and pay a satoshi from a kraken address?

Never give your BSN to a stranger. Even not a part of it.

Some time ago there was a huge fraud on government payments in Amsterdam. Even if the devs are ok, documents can leak. In the Amsterdam case, it was probably caused by leaked/stolen mail.

Personal info like ID cards are worth millions in the underground world. This will work like a honeypot. Sooner or later, they will be hacked.

Be warned, being a victim of identity fraud can give you lifetime problems. Ask yourself if you want to put yourself at risk.



They could make it even easier. Transfer € 0.01 to their bank account from a dutch bank account. With IBAN this is easy, you just need to check that the IBAN starts with 'NL'. On the website you just need to enter your IBAN + wallet address, and maybe your name (same as bank account).

No risk of identity fraud then, and chances of foreigners having a dutch bank account aren't that big (about the same as foreigners with double nationality I guess).
newbie
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I just don't feel uploading my bills and ID to some strangers on the internet.
Even banks use derivative verification. (Afgeleide verificatie)
In this case you can open a savings account at another bank, and validate your personal details by paying a small amount of money from a verified payment account from the other bank.

It's about the same way how oAuth works.

The devs have to trust a widely trusted company and use derivative verification. So why not upload a kraken screenshot, and pay a satoshi from a kraken address?

Never give your BSN to a stranger. Even not a part of it.

Some time ago there was a huge fraud on government payments in Amsterdam. Even if the devs are ok, documents can leak. In the Amsterdam case, it was probably caused by leaked/stolen mail.

Personal info like ID cards are worth millions in the underground world. This will work like a honeypot. Sooner or later, they will be hacked.

Be warned, being a victim of identity fraud can give you lifetime problems. Ask yourself if you want to put yourself at risk.

sr. member
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Merit: 250
Today we made some changes to our website.

- Updated HTTP to HTTPS
- When requesting a share of EFL we now ask Dutch citizens for the first 5 digits of their BSN. Can be blurred out aswell.
- Changed the request page to Dutch language.
- Added another encrypted layer to the storage of incoming personal details.

*P.S. not sure where the DigiD rumor comes from but it's invalid.





WOW! Dev good job Wink
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I just don't feel uploading my bills and ID to some strangers on the internet.
sr. member
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Today we made some changes to our website.

- Updated HTTP to HTTPS
- When requesting a share of EFL we now ask Dutch citizens for the first 5 digits of their BSN. Can be blurred out aswell.
- Changed the request page to Dutch language.
- Added another encrypted layer to the storage of incoming personal details.

*P.S. not sure where the DigiD rumor comes from but it's invalid

Ok, these are some good changes. I still have to send my full details however. I would already feel much more comfortable with giving my details when you would at least be a registered legal entity. It is not that much work to register a company or even a foundation (stichting) in the Netherlands.

Also scrapping the birth date from the list would be a good start already, since that is important information often used by companies to verify your identity. And I don't think it is necessary in this case.
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Someone knows what is happening with multi-pool?

Pool Hash Rate    228.496 MH/s
Pool Efficiency    99.36%
Current Active Workers    94
Current Difficulty    19.15569506
Est. Next Difficulty    9.6784285 (Change in 940 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Network)    1 minute 59 seconds
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool)    6 minutes
Est. Shares this Round    78462 (done: 3384.53%)
Next Network Block    48562    (Current: 48561)
Last Block Found    48510
Time Since Last Block    3 hours 21 minutes 58 seconds


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Someone knows what is happening with multi-pool?

Pool Hash Rate    228.496 MH/s
Pool Efficiency    99.36%
Current Active Workers    94
Current Difficulty    19.15569506
Est. Next Difficulty    9.6784285 (Change in 940 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Network)    1 minute 59 seconds
Est. Avg. Time per Round (Pool)    6 minutes
Est. Shares this Round    78462 (done: 3384.53%)
Next Network Block    48562    (Current: 48561)
Last Block Found    48510
Time Since Last Block    3 hours 21 minutes 58 seconds
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