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EFL has thrown out all my thoughts of what will make money out the window. You just need 3 ingredients for financial success.

1. A few people own most the coins with at least one being able to bankroll it with enough funds.
2. Wait until PoW phase is almost over before starting to pump the coin as the price can be easily manipulated.
3. Start marketing the coin when the PoW phase is almost ended so the only ones dumping is the less then 5 people who own majority of the coins.

I am onboard this train to making money even if the Ponzi isn't intentional it's exactly what it will end up being.  Grin Grin

You have a blinkered view of the matter. The view of making money for oneself (although there is nothing wrong with that) instead of making a better future for all. A better future would be a stronger economy than we have now.

When bitcoin and the robust altcoins along side would break through would you change them for fiat ? You only would  if that's the only way to spend them, because spending is the only way to feel rich. If it becomes possible and easy to spend your coins parallel of fiat, anyone would favor your coins, because your coins assure wealth and represent real property, whereas fiat assures >4% inflation each year and represent debt.

A ponzi scheme is when you would reward investers with money that comes from new investors and promise these new investors any return. Cryptocurrency is not a promise but a commodity. It is real property. You can prove that you have it. So if you pay for it you get some. There is no proof or promise that it's value will rise. That is rare nowadays. Even the gold market has become a ponzi scheme because there is a lot more paper gold than real gold.

So please don't use the word ponzi when you refer to cryptocurrency, because it is the exact opposite. You are behaving like the media are behaving. You can do better than that I am sure !


@Bitwise-shifted, I couldn't have said it better myself, thank you.
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EFL has thrown out all my thoughts of what will make money out the window. You just need 3 ingredients for financial success.

1. A few people own most the coins with at least one being able to bankroll it with enough funds.
2. Wait until PoW phase is almost over before starting to pump the coin as the price can be easily manipulated.
3. Start marketing the coin when the PoW phase is almost ended so the only ones dumping is the less then 5 people who own majority of the coins.

I am onboard this train to making money even if the Ponzi isn't intentional it's exactly what it will end up being.  Grin Grin

You have a blinkered view of the matter. The view of making money for oneself (although there is nothing wrong with that) instead of making a better future for all. A better future would be a stronger economy than we have now.

When bitcoin and the robust altcoins along side would break through would you change them for fiat ? You only would  if that's the only way to spend them, because spending is the only way to feel rich. If it becomes possible and easy to spend your coins parallel of fiat, anyone would favor your coins, because your coins assure wealth and represent real property, whereas fiat assures >4% inflation each year and represent debt.

A ponzi scheme is when you would reward investers with money that comes from new investors and promise these new investors any return. Cryptocurrency is not a promise but a commodity. It is real property. You can prove that you have it. So if you pay for it you get some. There is no proof or promise that it's value will rise. That is rare nowadays. Even the gold market has become a ponzi scheme because there is a lot more paper gold than real gold.

So please don't use the word ponzi when you refer to cryptocurrency, because it is the exact opposite. You are behaving like the media are behaving. You can do better than that I am sure !
legendary
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Unbelievable, did you know EFL is ahead of Auroracoin on coinmarketcap and number 2 countrycoin and if you include the premine almost ahead of digibyte at position 66.

EFL has thrown out all my thoughts of what will make money out the window. You just need 3 ingredients for financial success.

1. A few people own most the coins with at least one being able to bankroll it with enough funds.
2. Wait until PoW phase is almost over before starting to pump the coin as the price can be easily manipulated.
3. Start marketing the coin when the PoW phase is almost ended so the only ones dumping is the less then 5 people who own majority of the coins.

I am onboard this train to making money even if the Ponzi isn't intentional it's exactly what it will end up being.  Grin Grin



I have seen many coins where PoW has finished but the price never went anywhere. SLG you should know being British. That coin had all the tech and PoW phase ended but price never did much.

With all it's development it did not help , the problem they had is they weren't rich enough to support the coin. They didn't have a psychoticboy on there team and if they did it would be a different case for them today.

Your points 2 and 3 can only be true if you have rich people behind the coin. This is why some coins fail and some make it even if the other coin offers more in development.

This is just the way life works.

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@Brito,

Your basically right, unless there is a bigger picture.
The people behind the E-gulden know that there is much more to gain then a few bitcoins.
If this works there will be more awareness by the Dutch people about crypto en the fiat money system.

Anonyls will tell you more about it if you want to know :-)

Have a nice day..


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Unbelievable, did you know EFL is ahead of Auroracoin on coinmarketcap and number 2 countrycoin and if you include the premine almost ahead of digibyte at position 66.

EFL has thrown out all my thoughts of what will make money out the window. You just need 3 ingredients for financial success.

1. A few people own most the coins with at least one being able to bankroll it with enough funds.
2. Wait until PoW phase is almost over before starting to pump the coin as the price can be easily manipulated.
3. Start marketing the coin when the PoW phase is almost ended so the only ones dumping is the less then 5 people who own majority of the coins.

I am onboard this train to making money even if the Ponzi isn't intentional it's exactly what it will end up being.  Grin Grin

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Unbelievable, did you know EFL is ahead of Auroracoin on coinmarketcap and number 2 countrycoin and if you include the premine almost ahead of digibyte at position 66.

Yes the EFL isn't so bad after all :-)
legendary
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Unbelievable, did you know EFL is ahead of Auroracoin on coinmarketcap and number 2 countrycoin and if you include the premine almost ahead of digibyte at position 66.
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shit coin shit

 Kiss karma comes back around

EDIT: please be aware, this is the eGulden topic, I know there is a lot of confusion with namechanges going on so just be sure you post in the right thread!
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Premine: 50%  <-- SCAM
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@Trackcoins, There was more then 450k EFL volume  in one week.
Did you mean that the number 2 wallet bought all that stuff, i dont think so..
The EFL's are beginning to get scarce.....



I buy some but expect 12k at next halving. EFL, the earningcoin! Make it come true and I can double my btc.

thanks for joining our community, I hope you feel welcome and spread the word to your friends!
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@Trackcoins, There was more then 450k EFL volume  in one week.
Did you mean that the number 2 wallet bought all that stuff, i dont think so..
The EFL's are beginning to get scarce.....



I buy some but expect 12k at next halving. EFL, the earningcoin! Make it come true and I can double my btc.
member
Activity: 130
Merit: 10
@Trackcoins, There was more then 450k EFL volume  in one week.
Did you mean that the number 2 wallet bought all that stuff, i dont think so..
The EFL's are beginning to get scarce.....

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Activity: 144
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What release cause pump in price or pump because other Dutch coin got pump? Is this the Maryjane to Cannibiscoin

Just ignore this guy he was trolling the NLG ANN before.

The reason for a price increase is more demand then supply

Is demand name of 2nd top address on bittrex?
https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-EFL
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What release cause pump in price or pump because other Dutch coin got pump? Is this the Maryjane to Cannibiscoin

Just ignore this guy he was trolling the NLG ANN before.

The reason for a price increase is more demand then supply
legendary
Activity: 1197
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What release cause pump in price or pump because other Dutch coin got pump? Is this the Maryjane to Cannibiscoin

Just ignore this guy he was trolling the NLG ANN before.
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What release cause pump in price or pump because other Dutch coin got pump? Is this the Maryjane to Cannibiscoin
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The 4.95 million premine is the single biggest entity of supply that will need to come onto the EFL network, PoW phase is only 2.58 million coins to be mined as 18,410,075 coins out of the 21 million total are released.
Mining all the PoW coins until 21 million would just be over 50% of the premine and will be way under 50% at the end of this reward phase.

What plans does EFL have to release the premine and are you waiting for a higher price to get more benefit?

The above question came from my brother.

The plans to release the premine have never changed. From the beginning the purpose of the premine was : controlled and even distribution to as many citizens as possible. This proved to be extremely difficult and the foundation was established to secure the remaining premine for this purpose.

You can think of many reasons to maintain this purpose. One important reason is to present an easy way to get some e-Gulden, to create awareness and to present a small incentive as a reward for paying attention to what we have to say.  

It makes no sense to distribute everything now because it is impossible to "reach" every citizen at this moment in time.
Whe do distribute now, however. We distribute through controlled marketing campaigns. Important to us is that everybody can see where the premine is going to. The marketing programs are public and every satoshi spend is accounted for and visible on our website. Sorry for the dutch language, but that's where we focus.

You are right when you would say that we were not very effective yet. A higher price will be more convincive, not a higher quantity.
legendary
Activity: 1197
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The 4.95 million premine is the single biggest entity of supply that will need to come onto the EFL network, PoW phase is only 2.58 million coins to be mined as 18,410,075 coins out of the 21 million total are released.
Mining all the PoW coins until 21 million would just be over 50% of the premine and will be way under 50% at the end of this reward phase.

What plans does EFL have to release the premine and are you waiting for a higher price to get more benefit?

The above question came from my brother.
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Activity: 2562
Merit: 577


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