[ANN][FAIR] FairCoin - for a fair economy, featuring proof-of-cooperation - page 133.

halibit

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Quote from: ninjaskip on November 21, 2014, 09:31:53 AM

I forgot to mention:

I noticed yesterday @Vaultex that the exchange is for sale.
You can see it in the main page, on top.

After the Mintpal fiasco(with happy ending) we are going to have to be very careful @Vaultex please.
Kind of trade at your own risk atm.

I notice same and that's why I have no buy orders on Vaultex anymore.
But great to see some one is bring more FAIR in alcurEX.
i will keep my buy order open as long as it is totally filled.

yanhongcheng901011

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when this coin go to bittrex? Grin

smartaction

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UPDATE FOR BITTREX

FAIR -> fGEus6uJZPSNZbVZ9MKmrARSrMfWqqRttg Right now 56912 Faircoin in the account. 41488 pending! (accounting also the bitcoin received)

Or also BTC -> 1KGzQzr8MxwPrqyJoTCCb2J1njP4EeBZpF 0.54014 in the account. 1,01745 pending ! (accounting also the faircoin received)

Less than 35% of the bounty is pending to reach the goal!

ninjaskip

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I forgot to mention:

I noticed yesterday @Vaultex that the exchange is for sale.
You can see it in the main page, on top.

After the Mintpal fiasco(with happy ending) we are going to have to be very careful @Vaultex please.
Kind of trade at your own risk atm.

ninjaskip

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Quote from: smartaction on November 21, 2014, 07:10:38 AM

Quote from: drakandar on November 21, 2014, 03:07:24 AM

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:40:27 PM

Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 03:33:58 PM

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

Hi,

just processed the 4th batch.

This one was run an hour later because I added an extra check to the distribution software. It will refuse to send coins to any of the bad alcurex lost wallet addresses. So, we are safe there

Again, still over 7,000,000 FAIR waiting for their owners. Sign up now for the next round!

regs
Thomas

Any chance to take 40k fairs from there to get into bittrex?

No! All of these 7M FAIR have an owner, so we won't touch them at this time.

The coins that we received from MintPal are fairly hot material. Before even considering any form of usage other than returning them to their rightful owners, they'll have to be cleared by the legal department of the Fair.coop. And then it even depends on the country you live in. Here in the Netherlands crypto's are considered trade goods, in the US they are property which you have to pay taxes over.

So there's no point in even discussing this (unless you're a lawyer with experience in crypto's). It'll probably be years before we have to think about giving these coins another destination.

Interesting slideshare about virtual goods:
http://www.slideshare.net/jaspurewal/the-use-and-legal-status-of-virtual-goods-and-currencies

Drakandar: read the first pharagraph of the Fair.Coop definition, here https://fair.coop/faircoop/

"Fair.coop is an open global cooperative, self-organized via the Internet and remaining outside nation-state control"

Fair Coop is not going to declare anything because we dont give legitimacy to governement to control us. FairCoop dont have legal entity, and not can be denuncied in a legal process. If any government wants to ask, they can ask to me, hehe Cheesy

We are working for a further, global economic and social alternative and not care about this old politics things Wink

I was going to suggest to create a FEDERAL RESERVE for those 7 million coins, but i am glad to see that the Fair.coop still stands for what it should be. Shocked

smartaction

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Quote from: drakandar on November 21, 2014, 03:07:24 AM

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:40:27 PM

Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 03:33:58 PM

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

Hi,

just processed the 4th batch.

This one was run an hour later because I added an extra check to the distribution software. It will refuse to send coins to any of the bad alcurex lost wallet addresses. So, we are safe there

Again, still over 7,000,000 FAIR waiting for their owners. Sign up now for the next round!

regs
Thomas

Any chance to take 40k fairs from there to get into bittrex?

No! All of these 7M FAIR have an owner, so we won't touch them at this time.

The coins that we received from MintPal are fairly hot material. Before even considering any form of usage other than returning them to their rightful owners, they'll have to be cleared by the legal department of the Fair.coop. And then it even depends on the country you live in. Here in the Netherlands crypto's are considered trade goods, in the US they are property which you have to pay taxes over.

So there's no point in even discussing this (unless you're a lawyer with experience in crypto's). It'll probably be years before we have to think about giving these coins another destination.

Interesting slideshare about virtual goods:
http://www.slideshare.net/jaspurewal/the-use-and-legal-status-of-virtual-goods-and-currencies

Drakandar: read the first pharagraph of the Fair.Coop definition, here https://fair.coop/faircoop/

"Fair.coop is an open global cooperative, self-organized via the Internet and remaining outside nation-state control"

Fair Coop is not going to declare anything because we dont give legitimacy to governement to control us. FairCoop dont have legal entity, and not can be denuncied in a legal process. If any government wants to ask, they can ask to me, hehe Cheesy

We are working for a further, global economic and social alternative and not care about this old politics things Wink

krapo

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Anyone with login problems in VaultEX? My account is locked for 3 weeks or so. I submited a ticket but I had no answer. Any news about them?

asdlolciterquit

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Quote from: drakandar on November 20, 2014, 01:25:57 PM

Quote from: smartaction on November 20, 2014, 07:47:29 AM

Well drakandar, when you say "some" you are refering to ONE guy that sold too low yesterday, right?
I dont would able to get a general conclusion about people able to sell at so low, with that tiny market
Also was one guy buying at 3600 on monday, and this dont means anything, more than this are very tiny markets and who wants to sell there needs to go low
and who wants to buy needs to go up....

i am buying / selling OTC around 2500 from october, and if anyone needs to get in or out a big amount and is in this thread knows that exist this way....

anyway, i agree that alcurex could try this way, to put low buy orders and wait if someone fill it...

Well, not exactly that one guy

- Yesterday we had that sell order for 30K FAIR for 1000 sat.
- The 15th there was a sell order for 6K FAIR for 1000 sat.
- The 14th too, around 10K at 1000 sat.
- The 3rd, another 20K at 1000 sat

The same goes for the buy prices.

Agreed on your statement; it's a tiny market and there are no guarantees that there will be enough movement.. Let alone a general conclusion...
However people do what people do. There's no point in creating a hypothesis.

So for anyone who want to buy risk free; go to Enric

- Chris

i really don't understand why all these people are selling...

drakandar

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Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:40:27 PM

Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 03:33:58 PM

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

Hi,

just processed the 4th batch.

This one was run an hour later because I added an extra check to the distribution software. It will refuse to send coins to any of the bad alcurex lost wallet addresses. So, we are safe there

Again, still over 7,000,000 FAIR waiting for their owners. Sign up now for the next round!

regs
Thomas

Any chance to take 40k fairs from there to get into bittrex?

No! All of these 7M FAIR have an owner, so we won't touch them at this time.

The coins that we received from MintPal are fairly hot material. Before even considering any form of usage other than returning them to their rightful owners, they'll have to be cleared by the legal department of the Fair.coop. And then it even depends on the country you live in. Here in the Netherlands crypto's are considered trade goods, in the US they are property which you have to pay taxes over.

So there's no point in even discussing this (unless you're a lawyer with experience in crypto's). It'll probably be years before we have to think about giving these coins another destination.

Interesting slideshare about virtual goods:
http://www.slideshare.net/jaspurewal/the-use-and-legal-status-of-virtual-goods-and-currencies

smartaction

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Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 04:02:12 PM

Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 03:54:21 PM

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:40:27 PM

Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 03:33:58 PM

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

Hi,

just processed the 4th batch.

This one was run an hour later because I added an extra check to the distribution software. It will refuse to send coins to any of the bad alcurex lost wallet addresses. So, we are safe there

Again, still over 7,000,000 FAIR waiting for their owners. Sign up now for the next round!

regs
Thomas

Any chance to take 40k fairs from there to get into bittrex?

No! All of these 7M FAIR have an owner, so we won't touch them at this time.

Yeah i know they have "owners", but i also know a few million from them will be unclaimed.

We will define a reasonable procedure to treat the unclaimed coins. But it's way too early to do that on the 4th day of redistribution. Many of the people didn't even read their email yet or didn't have time to complete the form.

I think we should start discussing it, but not in relation to getting on bittrex.

Yeah! if a good amount remain unclaimed, this will be good news for the faircoin community
- the owners not interested in faircoin, - potential sellers- becames out of the play
- the ownership of most of the faircoin its time by time more in hands that people believing in the faircoin plans.
- Faircoin/faircoop will have more funds to redistribute in a fair way empowering our future plans.

lets go with our britght future!

thokon00

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Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 03:54:21 PM

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:40:27 PM

Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 03:33:58 PM

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

Hi,

just processed the 4th batch.

This one was run an hour later because I added an extra check to the distribution software. It will refuse to send coins to any of the bad alcurex lost wallet addresses. So, we are safe there

Again, still over 7,000,000 FAIR waiting for their owners. Sign up now for the next round!

regs
Thomas

Any chance to take 40k fairs from there to get into bittrex?

No! All of these 7M FAIR have an owner, so we won't touch them at this time.

Yeah i know they have "owners", but i also know a few million from them will be unclaimed.

We will define a reasonable procedure to treat the unclaimed coins. But it's way too early to do that on the 4th day of redistribution. Many of the people didn't even read their email yet or didn't have time to complete the form.

I think we should start discussing it, but not in relation to getting on bittrex.

ninjaskip

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Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:40:27 PM

Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 03:33:58 PM

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

Hi,

just processed the 4th batch.

This one was run an hour later because I added an extra check to the distribution software. It will refuse to send coins to any of the bad alcurex lost wallet addresses. So, we are safe there

Again, still over 7,000,000 FAIR waiting for their owners. Sign up now for the next round!

regs
Thomas

Any chance to take 40k fairs from there to get into bittrex?

No! All of these 7M FAIR have an owner, so we won't touch them at this time.

Yeah i know they have "owners", but i also know a few million from them will be unclaimed.

halibit

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Quote from: halibit on November 20, 2014, 09:00:17 AM

Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 08:55:39 AM

Quote from: halibit on November 20, 2014, 08:15:54 AM

Quote from: smartaction on November 20, 2014, 07:47:29 AM

Quote from: drakandar on November 20, 2014, 03:29:49 AM

Quote from: halibit on November 20, 2014, 01:23:51 AM

Thanks but offer price 0.00002 is too much for our "zero profit" exchange pay right now.
Can some one offer 22600 FAIRs for us with price 0.00001, so we can cover our locked FAIR wallet for coin holders?

I see you've (?) placed a buy order of 22600 FAIR on your exchange for 0.00001000 BTC each at https://alcurex.org/. That might be good way to solve this.
If you are in a hurry, you may want to duplicate this offer on https://www.vaultex.io/ as well.

It shouldn't be too long before either of them will get fulfilled. Especially since 7.000.000+ coins have been fairly returned to their owners now. There's a lot more coin on the market again. Some people are happy with the results (probably bought in at the low hundreds) and are selling now, while others hold onto their FairCoin - knowing who we are and are awaiting the next events to unroll.

Well drakandar, when you say "some" you are refering to ONE guy that sold too low yesterday, right?
I dont would able to get a general conclusion about people able to sell at so low, with that tiny market
Also was one guy buying at 3600 on monday, and this dont means anything, more than this are very tiny markets and who wants to sell there needs to go low
and who wants to buy needs to go up....

i am buying / selling OTC around 2500 from october, and if anyone needs to get in or out a big amount and is in this thread knows that exist this way....

anyway, i agree that alcurex could try this way, to put low buy orders and wait if someone fill it...

Agree that the low price is not good for FAIR or any coin.
I need to get those coins low price because our low capital.
I'm not making profit with my low buy, just cover coins we can't get out of wallet.
Not for me or alcurEX, but for the customers = FAIR supporters.
For that reason I hope some one can fill my 22600FAIR price 0.00001 buy order on alcurEX.

I think your buy order got filled now @Vaultex.

No, I have no buy order on Vaultex yet.
I have buy order on alcurEX: 22600FAIR price 0.00001
https://alcurex.org/index.php/crypto/FAIR_BTC

Okay. now there is buy order also in vaultex.
Is there any fair guy, please fill my buy order?

thokon00

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Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 03:33:58 PM

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

Hi,

just processed the 4th batch.

This one was run an hour later because I added an extra check to the distribution software. It will refuse to send coins to any of the bad alcurex lost wallet addresses. So, we are safe there

Again, still over 7,000,000 FAIR waiting for their owners. Sign up now for the next round!

regs
Thomas

Any chance to take 40k fairs from there to get into bittrex?

No! All of these 7M FAIR have an owner, so we won't touch them at this time.

ninjaskip

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Merit: 250

Quote from: thokon00 on November 20, 2014, 03:14:31 PM

Hi,

just processed the 4th batch.

This one was run an hour later because I added an extra check to the distribution software. It will refuse to send coins to any of the bad alcurex lost wallet addresses. So, we are safe there

Again, still over 7,000,000 FAIR waiting for their owners. Sign up now for the next round!

regs
Thomas

Any chance to take 40k fairs from there to get into bittrex?

thokon00

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Activity: 187

Merit: 100

FairCoin Core Developer

Hi,

just processed the 4th batch.

This one was run an hour later because I added an extra check to the distribution software. It will refuse to send coins to any of the bad alcurex lost wallet addresses. So, we are safe there

Again, still over 7,000,000 FAIR waiting for their owners. Sign up now for the next round!

regs
Thomas

Zombie123

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some people are stupid and they will remain so. Well sometimes I don't blame them as cypto is so full of scams. They were glad they got their fair coin but wanted to get out of it anyway.
I don't know whats the fair price for fair coin and time will tell but so far the support I have seen behind fair coin by the team has been unparalleled. That's all what matters!!

drakandar

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Quote from: smartaction on November 20, 2014, 07:47:29 AM

Well drakandar, when you say "some" you are refering to ONE guy that sold too low yesterday, right?
I dont would able to get a general conclusion about people able to sell at so low, with that tiny market
Also was one guy buying at 3600 on monday, and this dont means anything, more than this are very tiny markets and who wants to sell there needs to go low
and who wants to buy needs to go up....

i am buying / selling OTC around 2500 from october, and if anyone needs to get in or out a big amount and is in this thread knows that exist this way....

anyway, i agree that alcurex could try this way, to put low buy orders and wait if someone fill it...

Well, not exactly that one guy

- Yesterday we had that sell order for 30K FAIR for 1000 sat.
- The 15th there was a sell order for 6K FAIR for 1000 sat.
- The 14th too, around 10K at 1000 sat.
- The 3rd, another 20K at 1000 sat

The same goes for the buy prices.

Agreed on your statement; it's a tiny market and there are no guarantees that there will be enough movement.. Let alone a general conclusion...
However people do what people do. There's no point in creating a hypothesis.

So for anyone who want to buy risk free; go to Enric

- Chris

smartaction

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Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 08:55:39 AM

Quote from: halibit on November 20, 2014, 08:15:54 AM

Quote from: smartaction on November 20, 2014, 07:47:29 AM

Quote from: drakandar on November 20, 2014, 03:29:49 AM

Quote from: halibit on November 20, 2014, 01:23:51 AM

Thanks but offer price 0.00002 is too much for our "zero profit" exchange pay right now.
Can some one offer 22600 FAIRs for us with price 0.00001, so we can cover our locked FAIR wallet for coin holders?

I see you've (?) placed a buy order of 22600 FAIR on your exchange for 0.00001000 BTC each at https://alcurex.org/. That might be good way to solve this.
If you are in a hurry, you may want to duplicate this offer on https://www.vaultex.io/ as well.

It shouldn't be too long before either of them will get fulfilled. Especially since 7.000.000+ coins have been fairly returned to their owners now. There's a lot more coin on the market again. Some people are happy with the results (probably bought in at the low hundreds) and are selling now, while others hold onto their FairCoin - knowing who we are and are awaiting the next events to unroll.

Well drakandar, when you say "some" you are refering to ONE guy that sold too low yesterday, right?
I dont would able to get a general conclusion about people able to sell at so low, with that tiny market
Also was one guy buying at 3600 on monday, and this dont means anything, more than this are very tiny markets and who wants to sell there needs to go low
and who wants to buy needs to go up....

i am buying / selling OTC around 2500 from october, and if anyone needs to get in or out a big amount and is in this thread knows that exist this way....

anyway, i agree that alcurex could try this way, to put low buy orders and wait if someone fill it...

Agree that the low price is not good for FAIR or any coin.
I need to get those coins low price because our low capital.
I'm not making profit with my low buy, just cover coins we can't get out of wallet.
Not for me or alcurEX, but for the customers = FAIR supporters.
For that reason I hope some one can fill my 22600FAIR price 0.00001 buy order on alcurEX.

I think your buy order got filled now @Vaultex.

Not, this is the one from yesterday that i was talking about; (and i know the lucky guy that bought at this price, and is not alcurex)
the buy order in vaultex from alcurex has not ben bidded yet. they are for the moment only with the buy order in alcurex.

halibit

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Quote from: ninjaskip on November 20, 2014, 08:55:39 AM

Quote from: halibit on November 20, 2014, 08:15:54 AM

Quote from: smartaction on November 20, 2014, 07:47:29 AM

Quote from: drakandar on November 20, 2014, 03:29:49 AM

Quote from: halibit on November 20, 2014, 01:23:51 AM

Thanks but offer price 0.00002 is too much for our "zero profit" exchange pay right now.
Can some one offer 22600 FAIRs for us with price 0.00001, so we can cover our locked FAIR wallet for coin holders?

I see you've (?) placed a buy order of 22600 FAIR on your exchange for 0.00001000 BTC each at https://alcurex.org/. That might be good way to solve this.
If you are in a hurry, you may want to duplicate this offer on https://www.vaultex.io/ as well.

It shouldn't be too long before either of them will get fulfilled. Especially since 7.000.000+ coins have been fairly returned to their owners now. There's a lot more coin on the market again. Some people are happy with the results (probably bought in at the low hundreds) and are selling now, while others hold onto their FairCoin - knowing who we are and are awaiting the next events to unroll.

Well drakandar, when you say "some" you are refering to ONE guy that sold too low yesterday, right?
I dont would able to get a general conclusion about people able to sell at so low, with that tiny market
Also was one guy buying at 3600 on monday, and this dont means anything, more than this are very tiny markets and who wants to sell there needs to go low
and who wants to buy needs to go up....

i am buying / selling OTC around 2500 from october, and if anyone needs to get in or out a big amount and is in this thread knows that exist this way....

anyway, i agree that alcurex could try this way, to put low buy orders and wait if someone fill it...

Agree that the low price is not good for FAIR or any coin.
I need to get those coins low price because our low capital.
I'm not making profit with my low buy, just cover coins we can't get out of wallet.
Not for me or alcurEX, but for the customers = FAIR supporters.
For that reason I hope some one can fill my 22600FAIR price 0.00001 buy order on alcurEX.

I think your buy order got filled now @Vaultex.

No, I have no buy order on Vaultex yet.
I have buy order on alcurEX: 22600FAIR price 0.00001
https://alcurex.org/index.php/crypto/FAIR_BTC

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