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legendary
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Thanks. two, not commented, new address in top 100 since last update is this one:  fYCpjVPxZVwUEtzfxMg9YbhwXUQnpaUCuD
which belongs to bittrex (156283.743 )
and this one:  fKKtZQ6pReoQGLExcrf6jkWY1fErsYXPHv  (100000)  one investor from faircoop
legendary
Activity: 1981
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legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1122
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


You understood that most of our community dont like to trade on bittrex?  They neither like to get the faircoins cheaper, because feel that is not fair...

So, that calculation that perhaps you could do for other cryptocurrencies, not feets faircoin reality.

In many other currencies, the trading volume on exchanges comes 99% of speculation/short term trading. This is close to unexistant in faircoin.

If you want to do another calculation 2.5 M market cap needs 2500 persons with 1000 euros. And most of our people has not capacity to have savings, is people from the grasroots, who wants to use faircoin as a currency for real life.

Otherwise, volume in real economy is still not so big ok. (still close to 200 sellers accepts faircoin)

 this is mainly because 2015 and 2016 has been years of developments, and really 2017 will be the first year when the focus on implementation  and really use will be more important with faircoin 2, launch, fairpay launch and so on.

Anyway i am not promoting to buy....I was just sharing my optimism about what is going to happen  Wink




nobody force sellers to sell faircoin at bittrex with the price they want to sell,so it is a legal action if faircoop go into buy it up to make the profits ,if faircoop not even thinking of making profits while available then what to support the organisation to run for a long term aspect? i'm not here to ask faircoop to pump the price,i'm here to say faircoop have the responbility to maintain the reasonable price at freemarket which is bittrex atm(may be slighly lower about 5-10% of 0.05eud  relatively to the price that sell at getfaircoin),this is the key point to proof that faircoop is really a serious business,and this is also very important to convince to the ppl who want to invest/use to buy faircoin at 0.05eud/faircoin with cash(ppl who don`t have bitcoin) or with bitcoin,you just can`t say that you don`t like or feel guilty if buy cheap bc it is just a poor accuse to avoid the burden that you have to face and don`t forget you(faircoop) is the only one who sell faircoin for cash with the open announcement,ppl who buy at your side are not totally cut off from the network informations bc they also have their cellphone or computer that connect to the internet to check the price of the open market.
right now the price on the open market is the pain to be fixed for faircoop,you can`t deny or ignore it if faircoop want to see the success,if faircoop choose to live with the closed market then faircoop is nothing different with the fait system that faircoop don`t trust from the beginning,faircoop may be lack of fund to fix the problem right now but there is still a chance if faircoop willing to set up a plant to fix the price of the open market as the  priority objective,what to fear ppl to get away from faircoin is simply due to the attitude of faircoop ignored the chain reactions that started from open market for nearly 2 years.

one more thing here i would like to point it out is....you no need to terminate the POS(proof of stake)  for imply POC bc it also provide a  security layer of the blockchain,it will far more better for having both POC and POS all together as two layers of security..the interest from POS is also a good way to gain the fund for faircoop for a long term developement and 1.5% is not that much anyway.


1. Faircoop has proven that this price different is not a big pain, because has been developing strongly the ecosystem around faircoin, still with it.

2. The price on bittrex has growth on the last year from less than 0.01 eur, to 0.03 recently (now just to 0.5 BTC) a growth of 300% is not something to be worry about.

3.  FairCoop is doing well. boosting the real use of faircoin.  This create attention at many levels... and some of them goes to bittrex and buy. Thats why the price related official currencies has been growing. So Faircoop dont need to do a different plan than that. Faircoop could buy more or not, depending of many internal factors (First comes to pay coop salaries and exchange to merchants...), but the awareness created for sure involve more and more people buying also in bittrex.

4. In fact a more concrete plan is ready and related to Faircoin 2 launch. There is investors enough for putting the price where is better; just for them the launch is important enough, to wait.
legendary
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the fairpay campaign seems to be going well

Quote
Statistics Fairpay campaign at the morning january 4th

85 completed orders, 30 of them in Faircoin

Charged already 45600 faircoins in fairpay. With around 1660 euros received and 15000 faircoins

There is left until 5 january night to improve this numbers. You have until then to order the card and receive at home without shipping costs.

After 5 of january, we continue. In principle only with grupal orders of cards and in Faircoop local nodes.

So, lets organize yourself, create a local node… or ask for your card now!

Thanks to all for contributing to this important launch!!


https://fair.coop/groups/bank-of-the-commons/forum/topic/statistic-fairpay-campaign-two-days-before-finish-launching-campaign/

For sure. And last days of campaign numbers are exploding.
Yesterday we got our record of number of orders in getfaircoin in one day. More than 40 orders. In may 2015 was speculative orders. Today with fairpay, we got more buyers with real economy action.
legendary
Activity: 1981
Merit: 1039
the fairpay campaign seems to be going well

Quote
Statistics Fairpay campaign at the morning january 4th

85 completed orders, 30 of them in Faircoin

Charged already 45600 faircoins in fairpay. With around 1660 euros received and 15000 faircoins

There is left until 5 january night to improve this numbers. You have until then to order the card and receive at home without shipping costs.

After 5 of january, we continue. In principle only with grupal orders of cards and in Faircoop local nodes.

So, lets organize yourself, create a local node… or ask for your card now!

Thanks to all for contributing to this important launch!!


https://fair.coop/groups/bank-of-the-commons/forum/topic/statistic-fairpay-campaign-two-days-before-finish-launching-campaign/
hero member
Activity: 654
Merit: 500


You understood that most of our community dont like to trade on bittrex?  They neither like to get the faircoins cheaper, because feel that is not fair...

So, that calculation that perhaps you could do for other cryptocurrencies, not feets faircoin reality.

In many other currencies, the trading volume on exchanges comes 99% of speculation/short term trading. This is close to unexistant in faircoin.

If you want to do another calculation 2.5 M market cap needs 2500 persons with 1000 euros. And most of our people has not capacity to have savings, is people from the grasroots, who wants to use faircoin as a currency for real life.

Otherwise, volume in real economy is still not so big ok. (still close to 200 sellers accepts faircoin)

 this is mainly because 2015 and 2016 has been years of developments, and really 2017 will be the first year when the focus on implementation  and really use will be more important with faircoin 2, launch, fairpay launch and so on.

Anyway i am not promoting to buy....I was just sharing my optimism about what is going to happen  Wink




nobody force sellers to sell faircoin at bittrex with the price they want to sell,so it is a legal action if faircoop go into buy it up to make the profits ,if faircoop not even thinking of making profits while available then what to support the organisation to run for a long term aspect? i'm not here to ask faircoop to pump the price,i'm here to say faircoop have the responbility to maintain the reasonable price at freemarket which is bittrex atm(may be slighly lower about 5-10% of 0.05eud  relatively to the price that sell at getfaircoin),this is the key point to proof that faircoop is really a serious business,and this is also very important to convince to the ppl who want to invest/use to buy faircoin at 0.05eud/faircoin with cash(ppl who don`t have bitcoin) or with bitcoin,you just can`t say that you don`t like or feel guilty if buy cheap bc it is just a poor accuse to avoid the burden that you have to face and don`t forget you(faircoop) is the only one who sell faircoin for cash with the open announcement,ppl who buy at your side are not totally cut off from the network informations bc they also have their cellphone or computer that connect to the internet to check the price of the open market.
right now the price on the open market is the pain to be fixed for faircoop,you can`t deny or ignore it if faircoop want to see the success,if faircoop choose to live with the closed market then faircoop is nothing different with the fait system that faircoop don`t trust from the beginning,faircoop may be lack of fund to fix the problem right now but there is still a chance if faircoop willing to set up a plant to fix the price of the open market as the  priority objective,what to fear ppl to get away from faircoin is simply due to the attitude of faircoop ignored the chain reactions that started from open market for nearly 2 years.

one more thing here i would like to point it out is....you no need to terminate the POS(proof of stake)  for imply POC bc it also provide a  security layer of the blockchain,it will far more better for having both POC and POS all together as two layers of security..the interest from POS is also a good way to gain the fund for faircoop for a long term developement and 1.5% is not that much anyway.
newbie
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every alt coin goes up except faircoin with the latest bitcoin surge...
legendary
Activity: 1981
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fore for the most of the ppl it become a situation of no confidence to invest  is expected,and by that means the success of faircoop is nearly zero.
I really respect on you for your hard work to bring the ppl to a fair world but the ironic atm is that you cost nearly 70% more(from 0.03eud to 0.05eud) to ppl who buy faircoin with the cash...so..is it fair?

as i remember the activities that accept FAIR as form of payment comply with the same exchange rate proposed by the Faircoop so for now the lower price of bittrex is a good way to get cheaper FAIR, the sum availabe is shrinking every day 6-7BTC isn't much especially when more than 80% of FAIR belong to people involved with Faircoop.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1122
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Happy Fair 2017  Grin

the break even with getfaircoin isn't so far 5300 satoshi and only 8BTC/180k FAIR of distance

nah...i don`t think it will happen unless faircoop willing to maintain the price at bittrex market

The only legitimate reason that i can imagine for you to say this, is that you are not aware of all the important developments
that are happening related faircoop and faircoin...  Wink

i'm aware of faircoop developements actually but what surprised me is that you guys seems heavily under estimate the crypto currrencies market,what on earth that faircoin itself is a cryptocurrency and then faircoop totally ignore it's value at crypto market?



 people trading in bittrex and not buying faircoin at current 40% discount is underestimating our communitity...




well..the "people" here including faircoop...so faircoop also underestimating the value of faircoin like i said on the previous post right?


No. Because Faircoop buys in bittrex each time that have liquidity for this  Wink

This days that has come more liquidity because fairpay campaign, we already has been buying again...


open you eyes and see that volume please

I have not said that the liquidity we provide is big. Just said what we do when we have some. Otherwise take in account that 0.2 BTC today is 200 euros. If we do that is a medium is already 6000 eur / month

Otherwise, the faircoin volume is bittrex ever will be low related the faircoin use and extension, because only 1m of 53m faircoins are traded there, and because 90% of people using faircoin have not any account there....

lets say if a organisation that have couple thousand of members can`t even maintain a stable price that close to it's sell price(20 faircoin/eud) at a less than 2% market place..thats simply mean that it is really something wrong there,therefore for the most of the ppl it become a situation of no confidence to invest  is expected,and by that means the success of faircoop is nearly zero.
I really respect on you for your hard work to bring the ppl to a fair world but the ironic atm is that you cost nearly 70% more(from 0.03eud to 0.05eud) to ppl who buy faircoin with the cash...so..is it fair?


You understood that most of our community dont like to trade on bittrex?  They neither like to get the faircoins cheaper, because feel that is not fair...

So, that calculation that perhaps you could do for other cryptocurrencies, not feets faircoin reality.

In many other currencies, the trading volume on exchanges comes 99% of speculation/short term trading. This is close to unexistant in faircoin.

If you want to do another calculation 2.5 M market cap needs 2500 persons with 1000 euros. And most of our people has not capacity to have savings, is people from the grasroots, who wants to use faircoin as a currency for real life.

Otherwise, volume in real economy is still not so big ok. (still close to 200 sellers accepts faircoin)

 this is mainly because 2015 and 2016 has been years of developments, and really 2017 will be the first year when the focus on implementation  and really use will be more important with faircoin 2, launch, fairpay launch and so on.

Anyway i am not promoting to buy....I was just sharing my optimism about what is going to happen  Wink








legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1122
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
if Faircoop deploy a working and sucessful infrastructurre ( Fairpay, Fairtoearth, Getfaircoin ) volumes of Bittrex or other exchanges not necessarily would reflect the real volumes i hope for Faircoin2 a good block explorer with some stats on transactions and daily volumes.

Look at the block explorer for faircoin 2  http://chain.fair.to/
this will include already the rich list.  

stats about transactions could be included later

hero member
Activity: 654
Merit: 500
if Faircoop deploy a working and sucessful infrastructurre ( Fairpay, Fairtoearth, Getfaircoin ) volumes of Bittrex or other exchanges not necessarily would reflect the real volumes i hope for Faircoin2 a good block explorer with some stats on transactions and daily volumes.

also a transparent rich list that can be check at anytime is neccessary
hero member
Activity: 654
Merit: 500
Happy Fair 2017  Grin

the break even with getfaircoin isn't so far 5300 satoshi and only 8BTC/180k FAIR of distance

nah...i don`t think it will happen unless faircoop willing to maintain the price at bittrex market

The only legitimate reason that i can imagine for you to say this, is that you are not aware of all the important developments
that are happening related faircoop and faircoin...  Wink

i'm aware of faircoop developements actually but what surprised me is that you guys seems heavily under estimate the crypto currrencies market,what on earth that faircoin itself is a cryptocurrency and then faircoop totally ignore it's value at crypto market?



 people trading in bittrex and not buying faircoin at current 40% discount is underestimating our communitity...




well..the "people" here including faircoop...so faircoop also underestimating the value of faircoin like i said on the previous post right?


No. Because Faircoop buys in bittrex each time that have liquidity for this  Wink

This days that has come more liquidity because fairpay campaign, we already has been buying again...


open you eyes and see that volume please

I have not said that the liquidity we provide is big. Just said what we do when we have some. Otherwise take in account that 0.2 BTC today is 200 euros. If we do that is a medium is already 6000 eur / month

Otherwise, the faircoin volume is bittrex ever will be low related the faircoin use and extension, because only 1m of 53m faircoins are traded there, and because 90% of people using faircoin have not any account there....

lets say if a organisation that have couple thousand of members can`t even maintain a stable price that close to it's sell price(20 faircoin/eud) at a less than 2% market place..thats simply mean that it is really something wrong there,therefore for the most of the ppl it become a situation of no confidence to invest  is expected,and by that means the success of faircoop is nearly zero.
I really respect on you for your hard work to bring the ppl to a fair world but the ironic atm is that you cost nearly 70% more(from 0.03eud to 0.05eud) to ppl who buy faircoin with the cash...so..is it fair?

legendary
Activity: 1981
Merit: 1039
if Faircoop deploy a working and sucessful infrastructurre ( Fairpay, Fairtoearth, Getfaircoin ) volumes of Bittrex or other exchanges not necessarily would reflect the real volumes i hope for Faircoin2 a good block explorer with some stats on transactions and daily volumes.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1122
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Happy Fair 2017  Grin

the break even with getfaircoin isn't so far 5300 satoshi and only 8BTC/180k FAIR of distance

nah...i don`t think it will happen unless faircoop willing to maintain the price at bittrex market

The only legitimate reason that i can imagine for you to say this, is that you are not aware of all the important developments
that are happening related faircoop and faircoin...  Wink

i'm aware of faircoop developements actually but what surprised me is that you guys seems heavily under estimate the crypto currrencies market,what on earth that faircoin itself is a cryptocurrency and then faircoop totally ignore it's value at crypto market?



 people trading in bittrex and not buying faircoin at current 40% discount is underestimating our communitity...




well..the "people" here including faircoop...so faircoop also underestimating the value of faircoin like i said on the previous post right?


No. Because Faircoop buys in bittrex each time that have liquidity for this  Wink

This days that has come more liquidity because fairpay campaign, we already has been buying again...


open you eyes and see that volume please

I have not said that the liquidity we provide is big. Just said what we do when we have some. Otherwise take in account that 0.2 BTC today is 200 euros. If we do that is a medium is already 6000 eur / month

Otherwise, the faircoin volume is bittrex ever will be low related the faircoin use and extension, because only 1m of 53m faircoins are traded there, and because 90% of people using faircoin have not any account there....
hero member
Activity: 654
Merit: 500
Happy Fair 2017  Grin

the break even with getfaircoin isn't so far 5300 satoshi and only 8BTC/180k FAIR of distance

nah...i don`t think it will happen unless faircoop willing to maintain the price at bittrex market

The only legitimate reason that i can imagine for you to say this, is that you are not aware of all the important developments
that are happening related faircoop and faircoin...  Wink

i'm aware of faircoop developements actually but what surprised me is that you guys seems heavily under estimate the crypto currrencies market,what on earth that faircoin itself is a cryptocurrency and then faircoop totally ignore it's value at crypto market?



 people trading in bittrex and not buying faircoin at current 40% discount is underestimating our communitity...




well..the "people" here including faircoop...so faircoop also underestimating the value of faircoin like i said on the previous post right?


No. Because Faircoop buys in bittrex each time that have liquidity for this  Wink

This days that has come more liquidity because fairpay campaign, we already has been buying again...


open you eyes and see that volume please
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1122
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Happy Fair 2017  Grin

the break even with getfaircoin isn't so far 5300 satoshi and only 8BTC/180k FAIR of distance

nah...i don`t think it will happen unless faircoop willing to maintain the price at bittrex market

The only legitimate reason that i can imagine for you to say this, is that you are not aware of all the important developments
that are happening related faircoop and faircoin...  Wink

i'm aware of faircoop developements actually but what surprised me is that you guys seems heavily under estimate the crypto currrencies market,what on earth that faircoin itself is a cryptocurrency and then faircoop totally ignore it's value at crypto market?



 people trading in bittrex and not buying faircoin at current 40% discount is underestimating our communitity...




well..the "people" here including faircoop...so faircoop also underestimating the value of faircoin like i said on the previous post right?


No. Because Faircoop buys in bittrex each time that have liquidity for this  Wink

This days that has come more liquidity because fairpay campaign, we already has been buying again...
hero member
Activity: 654
Merit: 500
Happy Fair 2017  Grin

the break even with getfaircoin isn't so far 5300 satoshi and only 8BTC/180k FAIR of distance

nah...i don`t think it will happen unless faircoop willing to maintain the price at bittrex market

The only legitimate reason that i can imagine for you to say this, is that you are not aware of all the important developments
that are happening related faircoop and faircoin...  Wink

i'm aware of faircoop developements actually but what surprised me is that you guys seems heavily under estimate the crypto currrencies market,what on earth that faircoin itself is a cryptocurrency and then faircoop totally ignore it's value at crypto market?



 people trading in bittrex and not buying faircoin at current 40% discount is underestimating our communitity...




well..the "people" here including faircoop...so faircoop also underestimating the value of faircoin like i said on the previous post right?
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1122
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Happy Fair 2017  Grin

the break even with getfaircoin isn't so far 5300 satoshi and only 8BTC/180k FAIR of distance

nah...i don`t think it will happen unless faircoop willing to maintain the price at bittrex market

The only legitimate reason that i can imagine for you to say this, is that you are not aware of all the important developments
that are happening related faircoop and faircoin...  Wink

i'm aware of faircoop developements actually but what surprised me is that you guys seems heavily under estimate the crypto currrencies market,what on earth that faircoin itself is a cryptocurrency and then faircoop totally ignore it's value at crypto market?

The most important is that we know well. and we estimate our community members and all the broader network that supports same values than faircoop.
They would not understand volatility as something good (people that likes volatility already have bitcoin...)

By doing something really different than other cryptocurrencies, we are creating an added value to faircoin, based on the stability that our producers and consumers can experiment on their movements.
There is many people, investors included interested in that stability management, as a way to extend cryptocurrency to real use by common people...

For sure, people trading in bittrex and not buying faircoin at current 40% discount is underestimating our communitity...


hero member
Activity: 654
Merit: 500
Happy Fair 2017  Grin

the break even with getfaircoin isn't so far 5300 satoshi and only 8BTC/180k FAIR of distance

nah...i don`t think it will happen unless faircoop willing to maintain the price at bittrex market

The only legitimate reason that i can imagine for you to say this, is that you are not aware of all the important developments
that are happening related faircoop and faircoin...  Wink

i'm aware of faircoop developements actually but what surprised me is that you guys seems heavily under estimate the crypto currrencies market,what on earth that faircoin itself is a cryptocurrency and then faircoop totally ignore it's value at crypto market?
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1122
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Happy Fair 2017  Grin

the break even with getfaircoin isn't so far 5300 satoshi and only 8BTC/180k FAIR of distance

nah...i don`t think it will happen unless faircoop willing to maintain the price at bittrex market

The only legitimate reason that i can imagine for you to say this, is that you are not aware of all the important developments
that are happening related faircoop and faircoin...  Wink
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