Topic: [ANN][FAIR] FairCoin - for a fair economy, featuring proof-of-cooperation - page 47. (Read 376780 times)

Two facts that are hardly wrong from  last Anduril_FotW message

** Fairmarket sellers, can easy convert to euros after selling, at same getfaircoin value.
So, they have lots of motives to sell on fairmarket because have no any risk related faircoin exchange.
Look here:   https://market.fair.coop/forum/questions-help-1/question/for-merchants-how-to-exchange-faircoin-to-official-currencies-62

** Not exist such Authoritarian Communist government here.
FairCoop is an open cooperative where anyone can participate, suggest a topic to discuss and make a discussion about any topic. There
are assemblies online every month where decitions are taken.

That is for example the minutes of the last assembly: https://fair.coop/summary-of-the-6th-open-global-assembly-of-faircoop/

The getfaircoin price is a consensued decition on that process, and nobody have proposed to change it on the assembly.
One, two people, three people can say anything here... but there are decens and decents of people who are working hard all the days and have a different point of view.

You here, on bitcointalk, are only a really small part of the faircoin community. Main of that community is on the fairnetwork and
telegram groups. Telegram today is the more active space, where there are about 200 messages a day, relate to faircoop.
Taking in account that faircoin in bitcointalk have about 1/2 messages per day, we see as a result, that here its about 1% of the community activity, today..

Thinking that bitcointalk is the faircoin community is only comparable to thinking that bittrex is what matters related faircoin price. So far of the real Faircoop/ Faircoin activity.

If you want really participate on the process, join us on telegram.

I think we should not be worried about Bittrex. Dosen't matter what price it is in bitterex. If someone is invested in Faircoin they should use services provided and create economy.
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I've heard remarks like this before on this forum and I do have to say this worries me a little bit.
Bittrex is the only place where Faircoins can be traded openly, so to say that the Bittrex price doesn't matter sounds really wrong to me.
Economically speaking, the Bittrex price is the ONLY price that matters, since this is where supply and demand meet.
We are trying to build an economy here and not some communistic currency, of which the government says that is has a certain value, while the rest of the world disagrees.
So if the only place to spend your Faircoins against the amount you paid for it through GetFairCoin, is the Fairmarket, then what merchant will put their products on the Fairmarket ?? I think nobody, because they can get real money for their goods elsewhere.
So we really have to step away from this communistic way of thinking about an economy.
I think Faircoin should have an open economy with a socialistic mindset behind it.
Not some weird communistic economy where the government decides what the imaginary value of a currency is, while nobody in the rest of the world will actually buy the currency for that value.

So I really hope to see Faircoin traded in as many exchanges as possible and to create some real world demand for it by making the Fairmarket and other services as attractive as possible ! And I think the best way to make it attractive is to make sure that Faircoins are easily traded back and forth against other currencies.
So we need volume,realistic prices, easy access to buying and selling Faircoin against other currencies and reasons for people to use their Faircoins.

What do other people think about this ?

I think we should not be worried about Bittrex. Dosen't matter what price it is in bitterex. If someone is invested in Faircoin they should use services provided and create economy.

Now the people, who buy in getfaircoin gets a fair amount of faircoins to use for example on fairmarket where the goods and services are growing based on the getfaircoin price. Is the people on Bittrex who gets faircoin at discounted price. And this happens because the people who joins fairmarket/getfaircoin mainly is disconnected from the cryptocurrencies exchanges and is not interested in price variations. Meanwhile the people in bittrex is disconnected of the real economy that faircoin is building.

So, now that Fairmarket is active the spread can be solved in many ways, is about time, and we are more determined than ever in solving this by the real economy activity.
For instance, I just published a proposal to create new productive initiatives around fairmarket: https://market.fair.coop/forum/proposals-and-the-future-of-fairmarket-2/question/fairmarket-lab-group-on-telegram-and-here-92

Good news !!
But I also think this means we really need to take responsibility here and finally lower the GetFairCoin price.
If new people hear about Faircoin and start buying some through GetFairCoin to support Faircoin and to invest in the Faircoin ecosystem, they should also get a FAIR price.
The market price on Bittrex has been much lower than the GetFairCoin price for a really long time now, so I think we should accept that the GetFairCoin price just isn't realistic at this time.
Whether we like it or not, in an open economy, supply and demand is what determines the price. Since the market price on Bittrex has been floating around 0.000035 BTC for a while now, I think the GetFairCoin price should be lowered to around 0.00005 BTC.
That way the new people who are enthousiastic about Faircoin and invest money in it through GetFairCoin, will also get a FAIR amount of Faircoin for their money.

A new 7 minutes Report  was pubished today in an Spanish television, by Vice.com
(that one: https://twitter.com/cero )

See: https://twitter.com/VICESPAIN/status/714533764643360768

They interviewed me about Faircoop and faircoin,
And showed how to buy faircoin in getfaircoin.net


It will be open in internet in two weeks.
And soon translated to english.

As more products there are on fairmarket based in the getfaircoin.net prices, more options of getting that products at big discount buying at bittrex.
This should lead to finish that big spread of price, in not a lot of time...

Independently of more big news, will be coming

Nice progress on the fairmarket.

Any time frame for when exchange price, as in bittrex, will be equal to getfaircoin price?

We are approaching a year with this non-equilibirum.

very good news.
will test it soon.

Faircoin added in Bitsquare:  https://twitter.com/bitsquare_/status/711590593806389248

Download here: https://github.com/bitsquare/bitsquare/releases/tag/v0.3.6

Has been a delay of one week, for personal reasons,
but is coming before april.

Otherwise, it will be an Implementation paper, which will complete the white paper

what about the new white paper of FAIRCOIN 2.0

Very interesting project. I wish their bitsquare network were already up and running. I could so use it this days.


That's exactly what everyone in crypto needs right now.
Too much MtGrox scam and forced Identity strip has already happend which isn't good for crypto.

Not sure thought how well their solution will work out.

Are not related with synereo:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vcifn/synereo_and_bitsquare_are_they_related/

Wow ! Good news !!! 

wow. didn't know about bitsquare til now.
looks good.
will it be build on synereo?

New announcement, Faircoin will be added in Bitsquare, p2p cryptoctocurrency exchange ! 

https://twitter.com/EnricDuranG/status/710098493688381441

https://bitsquare.io/

You can get new products and services here...
https://market.fair.coop/shop

Step by step, growing

Participate in improving fairmarket in: https://market.fair.coop/forum
and make  together the better tool for the farcoop and faircoin community

FAIRMARKET IS LIVE!!!!! 

http://market.fair.coop




It's here! After a lot of intense work, at last we can open the virtual doors of our long-awaited online FairCoop market.

Since today We have launched, the fairmarket beta version, with basic features, which allows you to exchange  products and services, using Faircoin:   https://market.fair.coop/

You are invited to join, with your needs and habilities

Starting with this launch, with FairMarket we wish to create an open cooperative space that respects FairCoop's profound vision, so that we can build a benchmark of the solidarity and collaborative economy. This is only possible through the genuine and proactive participation of the users of the online market, who now have open access to a resource that belongs to  everyone: a common good of which everyone can feel they are joint owners and act as such. 

For this goal its very important the participation in the fairmarket forum: https://market.fair.coop/forum

Here you can read a detailed presentación of this launch:
https://fair.coop/fairmarket-opens-its-doors-with-a-beta-version/