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Topic: [ANN][Flux] ZelCore - FLUX - First Decentralized Computational Network - page 49. (Read 62039 times)

newbie
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Hey guys, to be honest I am a fan of the Z-coins. So idea looks great even when there is a pre-mine. Yes I prefer dev fee when mining but it is up to the devs to decide. It is on their own risk as most people think premine is scam.

My suggestion is to keep the premined coins in transparent address so people can monitor on Dev spending and see if dev start dumping the premined coins - everyone happy Smiley

I like ZEN and ZEL and Zclassic and Zcash. To some extent you can say they are all very similar but have different features.
I really like what ZEN did with the secure nodes and I was hoping you will build on top of that (since their code is public and they looks like most advanced).
However building a dev platform is a tremendous task and lots of developers needed wishing you luck with growing the team.
And by the way good relations with the ZEN foundation would benefit both coins.
Building on top of other coins is a thing I find normal in crypto world but I did expect you to come from the ZEN community.
I personally started mining ZEL because I saw it in one of my favorite mining pools, then checked the announcement and calculated mining profit.

So please consider my suggestion on keeping the dev fund on transparent address for us to be aware and keep calm even with such premine.

Also I have 2 other questions:
1. Will you inherit the secure node implementation from ZEN (I mean would be a shame to discover hot water again)?
2. Will you use the premined coins to sell masternodes ?( another reason to have the dev fund in a transparent address.

Thanks in advance.


newbie
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Hello. I'm trying to run a local purse on windows. It turns out such an error. What to do?
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newbie
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This post just to worn you about a scam project detected. But do your own research if you don`t want to loose your money or mining time.

Just to be clear I`m from a zencash community. I decide to check what is zelcash and why it looks like a copypast from zencach(ffs they only changed 1 sign in the name).

So I started from zel site.  Nothing better with a site - looks like a copy of https://zensystem.io/ A pretty same design, same fonts and even their logo looks a same(at least for me) - 3 attached cubic elements.

Then I looked at technology. And again a same things - private messages, masternodes and finally something original in whole project - crosschain. No real names in team, only nicknames. Good way to hide when you plagiarism something. And of course great for exit scam.

Entered to their discord. Started with simple question "Why it`s called zelcash and is there any hidden message behind it". Got funny kiddish answers from a founder and co-founder "because we like it" and "it easy to pronounce". Zero imagination.

Then asked what the difference with zencash. Got answer about a crosschain and this
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Zencash takes a % of the mining fee, 2% more dev fund. They are not utilizing a cross-chain approach, and last but not least, they do not incorporate masternodes (meaning that they will have more of the coin in circulation, which means that each coin is worth less). Having masternodes ties up coins and takes them out of circulation for the time-being while helping to verify transactions and keep the network secure.

 This info is not a true(same as info about zcash funding they`re spreading). Because ZEN doesn't actually have 8.5% in treasury. We forked off ZCL so first million coins and some more weren't taxed at all. Furthermore in % to total supply we have even way less; whereas premined coins get % of total supply. 1 761 000 * 0.085 = 149 685 / 21 000 000 = 0.7% of total supply

Then I saw info about zel have premine 6.2%. It`s not like zcash or zencash getting slow funding over time making devs to work hard all the time to push project forward. In zel case they will be able to cashout pretty fast when they`ll get a decent price after getting some exchanges.

So after all this info I called them a scam project and was kicked/banned from the discord. And as was mentioned at this thread before a founder/co-founder clearing/changing their messages all the time. Pretty shady moves.

And they have only one developer. So he must be better then Vitalik is to do all this stuff they imagine in whitepaper. Keep in mind they have nothing ready outside wallets(that was copied from zcash/zencash). Zcash/zencash have a pretty big teams working on projects and it`s moving slowly because developing takes a lot of time and testing things.

To summ this up.

1. A clone looking project to https://zensystem.io/
-changed only 1 sign in a project name
-a same site design
-a close looking logo
-a same ideas

2. Premine 6.2% to not wait long/get rich fast.

3. No real names for founders and dev teams. No penalties/law issue after exit a scam.

4. Only 1 developer.

5. Spreading incorrect info about zcash/zencash funding to look better.

6. Shady moves in discord - deleting/changing messages, kicking/banning ppls.

7. 210M coins supply.

I`m pretty sure there will be other issues. It`s up to you to risk or not. But giving them a hashpower or buying their shitcoins you will keep supporting crypto scams making your and humanity future unclear. Cheers to all a real projects!

I was there in Miningspeed discord when they allow a select few to test the blockchain and pre-mine before it was release to the public. The whole operation that went down look like a quick get rich scheme ran by a bunch of kids. That was just how i saw it. I really hope it isnt what I think it is and become successful. I wont be part of it but I wish you good luck!
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Professional user
So a lot of people are complaining about the team using Nicknames. Well at the moment we want to prove ourselves with our tech etc. Also security is important to us and disclosing our names and faces, makes us an easy target to physical danger. But we will be having a live core team meeting, and soon may disclose our faces and real names. If this is such a vital issue to our community we will be happy to do so.
 
that looks promising

good job..
copper member
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So a lot of people are complaining about the team using Nicknames. Well at the moment we want to prove ourselves with our tech etc. Also security is important to us and disclosing our names and faces, makes us an easy target to physical danger. But we will be having a live core team meeting, and soon may disclose our faces and real names. If this is such a vital issue to our community we will be happy to do so.
 
newbie
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Bought some up in the 3k sat area and continuing mining. Good luck on the project, looks good.
sr. member
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Developers, tell me please. when are you going to enter the markets? Thank you

Maybe for the market has not been there for a while, may still need support from the community to enter into the market and make a vote.
newbie
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DON'T TRUST SOMEONE WHO LIES---3. We did not ban you from Discord (you stated that you hoped our project was successful and for real and we thanked you and you left the Discord
                                        community after I stated that hopefully you'd come back and realize all of the hard work that we put into the project)--- Please do not lie. We have screenshots.

4. We mentioned the use of both the Equihash/Ethash as a cross-chain approach and how the masternodes (which Zencash doesn't have) would be used as the POS for the Ethash chain.

5. Additionally, we mentioned that in regards to Zencash and other cryptocurrencies, we will be fundraising and donating back to the community of which we will have a vote on as a community (this donations page will be live any day now).


If anyone would like screenshots and proof of our conversation, please PM me and I will be happy to oblige.

Thank you and have a great day,


Mount Weather






Mount Weather, I sent message with wishing good luck if you doing a real project, but I didn`t even see this message, because I was kicked from your discord channel. If you didn`t kick me, then some one else kicked me.

So you have 2 devs, one of them a founder stated at your site as a businessman/trader/miner and a manager. So he have time for everything. Which mean he have no time for real developing. In addition he spending a lot of time in discord. Just to prove my point he is not developing atm and probably in the future. 

To everything else it`s just a shit talking. Ppls have to believe you, while I showed the facts and shady moves in this project. Honestly, every smart person should stay away from premined projects these days. Don`t want to spend more time for this scam.


Nope, No one kicked you. I have a screenshot that shows you left. No kicking or banning. Enjoy the FUD and lies. Good luck!
newbie
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Developers, tell me please. when are you going to enter the markets? Thank you
newbie
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Nice copy of Zencash. Really dont buy this. They sell all premined coins after pump.
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We need real profile of this project , otherwise i will not invest single cent on this coin
newbie
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DON'T TRUST SOMEONE WHO LIES---3. We did not ban you from Discord (you stated that you hoped our project was successful and for real and we thanked you and you left the Discord
                                        community after I stated that hopefully you'd come back and realize all of the hard work that we put into the project)--- Please do not lie. We have screenshots.

4. We mentioned the use of both the Equihash/Ethash as a cross-chain approach and how the masternodes (which Zencash doesn't have) would be used as the POS for the Ethash chain.

5. Additionally, we mentioned that in regards to Zencash and other cryptocurrencies, we will be fundraising and donating back to the community of which we will have a vote on as a community (this donations page will be live any day now).


If anyone would like screenshots and proof of our conversation, please PM me and I will be happy to oblige.

Thank you and have a great day,


Mount Weather






Mount Weather, I sent message with wishing good luck if you doing a real project, but I didn`t even see this message, because I was kicked from your discord channel. If you didn`t kick me, then some one else kicked me.

So you have 2 devs, one of them a founder stated at your site as a businessman/trader/miner and a manager. So he have time for everything. Which mean he have no time for real developing. In addition he spending a lot of time in discord. Just to prove my point he is not developing atm and probably in the future. 

To everything else it`s just a shit talking. Ppls have to believe you, while I showed the facts and shady moves in this project. Honestly, every smart person should stay away from premined projects these days. Don`t want to spend more time for this scam.


To Mount Weather

3. No real names for founders and dev teams.......

Why is this this?? Why are you only using nicknames? It does not inspire confidence....AT ALL
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This post just to worn you about a scam project detected. But do your own research if you don`t want to loose your money or mining time.

Just to be clear I`m from a zencash community. I decide to check what is zelcash and why it looks like a copypast from zencach(ffs they only changed 1 sign in the name).
...
Implying ZEN has never been a clone of ZEC and Hush, and a fork of ZCL, with just nodes reward system addition.
ZEN cloned ZEC wallet, that was released early 2017.
Only one letter was changed in the ticker also.
I don't see any dApps compatibility with ZEN, neither a cross-chain system.
You write the exact same posts I have seen from ZEC supporters when ZEN was launched  Grin

Every new coin is a potential scam, future and development progress will tell what ZEL is...
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DON'T TRUST SOMEONE WHO LIES---3. We did not ban you from Discord (you stated that you hoped our project was successful and for real and we thanked you and you left the Discord
                                        community after I stated that hopefully you'd come back and realize all of the hard work that we put into the project)--- Please do not lie. We have screenshots.

4. We mentioned the use of both the Equihash/Ethash as a cross-chain approach and how the masternodes (which Zencash doesn't have) would be used as the POS for the Ethash chain.

5. Additionally, we mentioned that in regards to Zencash and other cryptocurrencies, we will be fundraising and donating back to the community of which we will have a vote on as a community (this donations page will be live any day now).


If anyone would like screenshots and proof of our conversation, please PM me and I will be happy to oblige.

Thank you and have a great day,


Mount Weather






Mount Weather, I sent message with wishing good luck if you doing a real project, but I didn`t even see this message, because I was kicked from your discord channel. If you didn`t kick me, then some one else kicked me.

So you have 2 devs, one of them a founder stated at your site as a businessman/trader/miner and a manager. So he have time for everything. Which mean he have no time for real developing. In addition he spending a lot of time in discord. Just to prove my point he is not developing atm and probably in the future. 

To everything else it`s just a shit talking. Ppls have to believe you, while I showed the facts and shady moves in this project. Honestly, every smart person should stay away from premined projects these days. Don`t want to spend more time for this scam.
newbie
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Hello,
could be that the explorer available at the address http://explorer.zel.cash/ is not synced with the net in real time?
I see a difference between the balance available in the wallet and the balance declared scanning the same address...
Thanks
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