Still no exchange?
http://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-HOC
https://c-cex.com/?p=hoc-btc
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Still no exchange?
I have my allocation.
Edit - Bit more detail.
For my 0.125btc I received just over 61k coins as part of the allocation overnight, local time. (Currently just before 1pm now)
Yes, the wallet (windows) does exist but it did take some effort to download.
When back home later tonight I'll provide more details if required.
Edit - Bit more detail.
For my 0.125btc I received just over 61k coins as part of the allocation overnight, local time. (Currently just before 1pm now)
Yes, the wallet (windows) does exist but it did take some effort to download.
When back home later tonight I'll provide more details if required.
I am confused as what is going on here? When do we get paid for our stake? Do I need to download the wallet now and send a pm so I can get my coins? I have paid over 0.2 in this PO so am a bit confused now as to where we stand? 
Download the wallet and get an address: email or pm BitOffer with your receiving address. Also make sure you get access to member section in forums.
BitOffer is updating the OP of this thread.
Yes, anyone who has not yet downloaded a wallet and given BitOffer an address... please do so now.
Is there not a wallet yet? I got to the download link and there is nothing to download? When will wallet be available?
I am confused as what is going on here? When do we get paid for our stake? Do I need to download the wallet now and send a pm so I can get my coins? I have paid over 0.2 in this PO so am a bit confused now as to where we stand?
Download the wallet and get an address: email or pm BitOffer with your receiving address. Also make sure you get access to member section in forums.
BitOffer is updating the OP of this thread.
Yes, anyone who has not yet downloaded a wallet and given BitOffer an address... please do so now.
Is there not a wallet yet? I got to the download link and there is nothing to download? When will wallet be available?
The Member BTC List is up-to-date and accurate. This is not the official HOC list of from BitOffer but independently audited by a Member (me) from the blockchain.
Highlights (As of the posting. Subject to change.)
* 22.48084119 BTC sent to IPO Wallets
* 18.69338216 BTC remaining in IPO Wallets
* 3.7874574 BTC withdrawn from IPO Wallets
* 3.5001433 BTC difference between reported IPO and actual amount on Blockchain (22.48084119 - 18.98082686)
Highlights (As of the posting. Subject to change.)
* 22.48084119 BTC sent to IPO Wallets
* 18.69338216 BTC remaining in IPO Wallets
* 3.7874574 BTC withdrawn from IPO Wallets
* 3.5001433 BTC difference between reported IPO and actual amount on Blockchain (22.48084119 - 18.98082686)
Great work, thanks for the effort!
I am confused as what is going on here? When do we get paid for our stake? Do I need to download the wallet now and send a pm so I can get my coins? I have paid over 0.2 in this PO so am a bit confused now as to where we stand?
Download the wallet and get an address: email or pm BitOffer with your receiving address. Also make sure you get access to member section in forums.
BitOffer is updating the OP of this thread.
Yes, anyone who has not yet downloaded a wallet and given BitOffer an address... please do so now.
This is the latest from Bitoffer.....
I'm getting ready to send out [HOC] coins. Calculations are 100% complete.
Now once the coins are delivered we need to get the board and members together asap... We have a very strong community already with big ideas, that need to be discussed....
We need to get some promotions and giveaways going to get some coins circulating. Remember It we be way more valuable to hold your coins then to just dump them on the market, plus you will loose your voting rights if you sell of your coins, I myself will be looking to buy many, and when I can i will sell a few to by many more....
I want all your HOC....lol
I'm getting ready to send out [HOC] coins. Calculations are 100% complete.
Now once the coins are delivered we need to get the board and members together asap... We have a very strong community already with big ideas, that need to be discussed....
We need to get some promotions and giveaways going to get some coins circulating. Remember It we be way more valuable to hold your coins then to just dump them on the market, plus you will loose your voting rights if you sell of your coins, I myself will be looking to buy many, and when I can i will sell a few to by many more....
I want all your HOC....lol
The Member BTC List is up-to-date and accurate. This is not the official HOC list of from BitOffer but independently audited by a Member (me) from the blockchain.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rMvKsFnKk3lfIUb6UOyjAgY9Z5lU3dMtcgKAKfgNeYo/edit#gid=0
Highlights (As of the posting. Subject to change.)
* 22.48084119 BTC sent to IPO Wallets
* 18.69338216 BTC remaining in IPO Wallets
* 3.7874574 BTC withdrawn from IPO Wallets
* 3.5001433 BTC difference between reported IPO and actual amount on Blockchain (22.48084119 - 18.98082686)
http://content.screencast.com/users/webshare/folders/Jing/media/831d5537-647d-45c2-878c-f5b2253b78ef/00000049.png
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rMvKsFnKk3lfIUb6UOyjAgY9Z5lU3dMtcgKAKfgNeYo/edit#gid=0
Highlights (As of the posting. Subject to change.)
* 22.48084119 BTC sent to IPO Wallets
* 18.69338216 BTC remaining in IPO Wallets
* 3.7874574 BTC withdrawn from IPO Wallets
* 3.5001433 BTC difference between reported IPO and actual amount on Blockchain (22.48084119 - 18.98082686)
http://content.screencast.com/users/webshare/folders/Jing/media/831d5537-647d-45c2-878c-f5b2253b78ef/00000049.png
I am confused as what is going on here? When do we get paid for our stake? Do I need to download the wallet now and send a pm so I can get my coins? I have paid over 0.2 in this PO so am a bit confused now as to where we stand?
Download the wallet and get an address: email or pm BitOffer with your receiving address. Also make sure you get access to member section in forums.
BitOffer is updating the OP of this thread.
I am confused as what is going on here? When do we get paid for our stake? Do I need to download the wallet now and send a pm so I can get my coins? I have paid over 0.2 in this PO so am a bit confused now as to where we stand?
I personally would like to keep the coin as normal POW, or at least not end POW if you introduce POS. The whole POW for a few days/weeks -> POS concept seems very pumpy-dumpy to me, and also like a fad that is getting old fast. Just because everyone else is doing it doesn't mean it's a good idea long term. I would like this coin to have stable (at least for crypto) value. None of us should dump these coins but keep them as a long term investment. It is a new concept for a coin, and has a lot of merit.
That's just my $0.02
On a side note, lets all have some patience and give the dev a break. He's been working hard and probably hasn't been getting enough sleep which definitely makes it hard to think or function. I'm sure things are more complicated than they seem, and slamming this coin on the open forum isn't helping anything.
I'm very optimistic about the future of this coin I think it can be great!
That's just my $0.02
On a side note, lets all have some patience and give the dev a break. He's been working hard and probably hasn't been getting enough sleep which definitely makes it hard to think or function. I'm sure things are more complicated than they seem, and slamming this coin on the open forum isn't helping anything.
I'm very optimistic about the future of this coin I think it can be great!
I just noticed that the Member #'s were off by one towards the middle of my spreadsheet. I figured out why. On Bitoffer's Master Member list he repeated member #33 and i did not do the same thing on my list. I now have Member #33 twice and the Member's now match the BTC addresses. I have not checked to see if the BTC is still in the addresses again.
http://forum.houseofcoins.us/index.php?topic=489.0
http://content.screencast.com/users/webshare/folders/Jing/media/eafad999-65a3-4a8c-a0c1-887e8740c7bf/00000048.png
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rMvKsFnKk3lfIUb6UOyjAgY9Z5lU3dMtcgKAKfgNeYo/edit?usp=sharing
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I've Just seen more problems, I'm checking on the list and matching things up. I saved a copy of the Members list from several days ago and am seeing if there are any differences from today to that list.
http://forum.houseofcoins.us/index.php?topic=489.0
http://content.screencast.com/users/webshare/folders/Jing/media/eafad999-65a3-4a8c-a0c1-887e8740c7bf/00000048.png
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rMvKsFnKk3lfIUb6UOyjAgY9Z5lU3dMtcgKAKfgNeYo/edit?usp=sharing
---Edit---
I've Just seen more problems, I'm checking on the list and matching things up. I saved a copy of the Members list from several days ago and am seeing if there are any differences from today to that list.
Bitoffer, if I don't hear something soon, i would like my refund. I'm just not feeling this project anymore, there is no communication. Please email me a refund as soon as you can. I need these funds back for other investments. Thanks.
Really like the idea here, but just wasn't rolled out way i expected.
Really like the idea here, but just wasn't rolled out way i expected.
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I also will request my refund by the end of today if there is not significant progress, along with updates.
Maybe he should do both, because I for one find it LESS confusing to have one spot to look for updates and this is the top of the OP. Anyhow, all those wanting refunds will likely get them, but not until after the distributions are allocated and possibly even sent to you. Rules are rules. You can sell your seat to get out after all house members have discussed it. Asking Bitoffer to recalculate 80+ distributions so you can have a refund is fruitless. There is no way he is going to do that.
From reading the OP I do agree that it would seem there would need to be some significant excuse to delay the distributions today. It seems he is nearly ready to do it now and just needed a break from "Open Calc." Once distribution occurs and we have our first meeting, I definitely agree that many things should be delegated amongst members. We just aren't to that point yet. I am not in a hurry, but for those he are feeling anxious, I understand. Things often do move fast in the world of crypto. I think a heapload of patience will payoff here though.
Well i'm willing to stick this out and not get a refund, which i emailed him about, but need to honestly know more what's going on. I understand these things are not easy, but communication and FUD all over this page. I don't know what's up or down. If he could just spend a moment and clear up whats holding up things, I believe most would be fine, we got into this for long term, but communication is key.
Thats where I stand, I'm getting so confused with either legit complains or FUD, and then Bitoffer is not on here enough, this cause people to question motives.
Anyways, I, and i'm sure most here will stick it out if we get something more about what the holdup is.
I'm trying man. For real. But when they said I wasn't even on the list, that is what got to me the most.
That is strange that you would be missing from the list. I am curious, what number were you given? Were you given a BTC address to fund?
I was #25. I was on the list that was linked in the Main chat the other day with all the #'s, the deposit address and the amount of btc put in. I asked for a refund but like you stated in your previous post it probably won't happen until all coins are distributed. So why am I not on the list? Is he purposely ignoring me and all my messages because I want a refund and wont distribute me my coins because of that? He CANT be waiting for a vote to happen to see if I can get a refund because like he showed us the past 4 days, he is still incharge so he is breaking a lot of rules already. So either I get my refund or I get my coins, or atleast my name on the list. None of which has happened yet. There is no excuse for his lack of caring about other investors in the coin.
I just read the comments about the excel, and yes, it is not hard to do these calculations. So he sucks at it and is fairly subject to some ball busting, for sure. As far as not being on the list, I thought you meant your number was not on the list. But the list has this:
025 1CXcXje6KeEup56i2eRXjwEQd7BHv25znd
Balance is : 0.28002 BTC
this is you. Sorry, but I disagree that he is breaking rules. Without the allocations we cannot vote. He will have full control up to that point. Period.
Yes, I am aware of that list but on the other list, the one I can not see due to not having access, #25 isnt even on the list, it skipped it.
I'm trying man. For real. But when they said I wasn't even on the list, that is what got to me the most.
That is strange that you would be missing from the list. I am curious, what number were you given? Were you given a BTC address to fund?
I was #25. I was on the list that was linked in the Main chat the other day with all the #'s, the deposit address and the amount of btc put in. I asked for a refund but like you stated in your previous post it probably won't happen until all coins are distributed. So why am I not on the list? Is he purposely ignoring me and all my messages because I want a refund and wont distribute me my coins because of that? He CANT be waiting for a vote to happen to see if I can get a refund because like he showed us the past 4 days, he is still incharge so he is breaking a lot of rules already. So either I get my refund or I get my coins, or atleast my name on the list. None of which has happened yet. There is no excuse for his lack of caring about other investors in the coin.
I just read the comments about the excel, and yes, it is not hard to do these calculations. So he sucks at it and is fairly subject to some ball busting, for sure. As far as not being on the list, I thought you meant your number was not on the list. But the list has this:
025 1CXcXje6KeEup56i2eRXjwEQd7BHv25znd
Balance is : 0.28002 BTC
this is you. Sorry, but I disagree that he is breaking rules. Without the allocations we cannot vote. He will have full control up to that point. Period.
I Googled instructions for OpenCalc, applying a function to a column:
1. Write the formula in the top cell of a column
2. Copy this cell
3. Select all of the rest of cells in the column. You can do this by clicking on the top cell and shift clicking on the bottom cell so the scrolling is really quick
4. With all of the cells selected select Paste. The formula will be copied to all of the currently selected cells, but will be adjusted according to its position in the sheet.
It is a little different than excel but still rather straightforward.
1. Write the formula in the top cell of a column
2. Copy this cell
3. Select all of the rest of cells in the column. You can do this by clicking on the top cell and shift clicking on the bottom cell so the scrolling is really quick
4. With all of the cells selected select Paste. The formula will be copied to all of the currently selected cells, but will be adjusted according to its position in the sheet.
It is a little different than excel but still rather straightforward.
You just told him how to do it so it should go faster now lol. I seriously doubt he even reads this thread. He post all his updates on the first page. If you came here your first time and he seen all those updates that were way past the IPO ending time, would you want to buy this coin seeing how "lost" the Dev is? I'd steer clear of it.
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Right now im swamped with getting out [HOC] to everyone and not making any mistakes. This would also need to be choreographed so that everyone switches over to the new wallet seamlessly. I don't have a definitive answer. Lets get the house setup and let them decide, eh?
1.Calculation of stake for each shareholder can be done using Excel in a few minutes (I would use Python for fun and still have it done in less than half an hour).
2. Hand distribution of stake should not take long even if doing it by hand.
Dev: If you need help any of this, let me know and I would gladly help?
3. What entails 'getting the house set up?'
Dev, please give us an update because people are getting restless. One critical failure I see over and over is lack of dev presence and loss of faith in a coin.
It has been 4 DAYS!! And still not even a complete list yet...I can do that in 2 hours and I suck at excel. Makes you wonder what he has been spending his time doing in those secret chats.
Put the IDs in column A and the amount invested in column B. Then set up a function to calculate the amount of HOC to be issued in column C using the data in column B. Literally minutes if you know even basic excel.
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Right now im swamped with getting out [HOC] to everyone and not making any mistakes. This would also need to be choreographed so that everyone switches over to the new wallet seamlessly. I don't have a definitive answer. Lets get the house setup and let them decide, eh?
1.Calculation of stake for each shareholder can be done using Excel in a few minutes (I would use Python for fun and still have it done in less than half an hour).
2. Hand distribution of stake should not take long even if doing it by hand.
Dev: If you need help any of this, let me know and I would gladly help?
3. What entails 'getting the house set up?'
Dev, please give us an update because people are getting restless. One critical failure I see over and over is lack of dev presence and loss of faith in a coin.
It has been 4 DAYS!! And still not even a complete list yet...I can do that in 2 hours and I suck at excel. Makes you wonder what he has been spending his time doing in those secret chats.
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