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Topic: [ANN][HUT34] - The Hut34 Project. Where A.I. does business - Starts Nov 2 - page 19. (Read 13265 times)

newbie
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start a blockchain based project on AI really a great idea ,but it's not a easy work ,for the AI project will cause a  numorous data among lots of interface

I'm thinking Petabytes of info per day

We agree that as the project scales, so will the data volumes transported  and transacted across the network. Keep in mind the project provides the tools to allow network users to (i) connect, (ii) route messages, (ii) resolve queries, and (iv) monetise information transactions. We will not be conducting AI based compute on chain, rather network participants will connect their own compute engines so the can communicate/transact with each other across the Hut34 Network

As state channel technology improves such as Radian , Plasma et al the capacity of the network to handle increased AI, IoT and data transactions will also grow.

Hope this helps

Tim Smiley
full member
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Merit: 116
Oh nice ones. Tho the pink underlay of the First one hurts my eyes a bit
hero member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 756
Bobby Fischer was right
AND THE WINNER IS POPTOK1 !
WELL DONE POPTOK1
CAN YOU PLEASE POST THE BBCODE HERE SO THAT THE SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN CAN GET UNDERWAY!
(See my DM too!)
Thanks, that was a pleasure to make those for you. My very first, commercial signature  codes.
Full version was posted in the competition thread.
Just like other members have suggested, make a new thread with your signature campaign, you will have much more visibility this way.
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full member
Activity: 308
Merit: 100
AND THE WINNER IS POPTOK1 !

WELL DONE POPTOK1

CAN YOU PLEASE POST THE BBCODE HERE SO THAT THE SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN CAN GET UNDERWAY!

(See my DM too!)
You should make bounty campaign thread here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0
So people will find your campaign,  this thread will focus in discussion. Running bounty in ANN board is not allowed.

Yeah, make a proper bounty thread. I'm sure many will participate
hero member
Activity: 2086
Merit: 761
To boldly go where no rabbit has gone before...
start a blockchain based project on AI really a great idea ,but it's not a easy work ,for the AI project will cause a  numorous data among lots of interface

I'm thinking Petabytes of info per day
sr. member
Activity: 402
Merit: 250
start a blockchain based project on AI really a great idea ,but it's not a easy work ,for the AI project will cause a  numorous data among lots of interface
newbie
Activity: 45
Merit: 0
A question, what is minimum and maximum cap you want to raise?
Hi, we will create a maximum 100 000 000 Entropy.

We are yet to announce the min and max of raise. We are working on establishing an appropriate figure that will ensure we are able to deliver a successful project (it is a big, rich, multilayered and deep project). The token will have genuine utility with the network we create.

There is a lot of nonsense out there, both with the obvious scam projects and when you look a little deeper at even some of the more popular sales that established businesses are running that add a token because they can - but that do not have any real utility or upside for the participants.

 In any case we are confident the sale dynamics align the interests of participants with us as founders to ensure delivery of project, build of the community, and shared upside for everyone, along with a token creation that should have a life for many years to come.

We will announce the caps with plenty of time for you to weigh us up.
sr. member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 267
AND THE WINNER IS POPTOK1 !

WELL DONE POPTOK1

CAN YOU PLEASE POST THE BBCODE HERE SO THAT THE SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN CAN GET UNDERWAY!

(See my DM too!)
You should make bounty campaign thread here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0
So people will find your campaign,  this thread will focus in discussion. Running bounty in ANN board is not allowed.
newbie
Activity: 45
Merit: 0
AND THE WINNER IS POPTOK1 !

WELL DONE POPTOK1

CAN YOU PLEASE POST THE BBCODE HERE SO THAT THE SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN CAN GET UNDERWAY!

(See my DM too!)
sr. member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 267
A question, what is minimum and maximum cap you want to raise?
newbie
Activity: 63
Merit: 0
This is great timing to take risk on this project I hope this will go to the moon.

Thanks for your support!. Be sure to spread the word Smiley
newbie
Activity: 63
Merit: 0
How will the bots be connected to hut34 network?

API's? Or something different?

Hi Btcminer - the short answer to your question is - yes! We are working on a variety of very simple integration packages so that botbuilders across a range of platfroms can quickly connect their bots (pre existing or new) to the network. We have crrently built integraion packages for microsft bot framework, google's Api.ai, motion.ai and a general integration via webhook.

As we move forward we will add more integrations so that other bot platfroms, IoT devices and other digital services can quickly and easily integrate onto the network.

Cheers

Tim
newbie
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Thanks Nick & Tim for such in detail response. Now I'm clear on the subject.
How do you guys plan to progress with the signature contest?
Since it was only me that submitted some work for it, its hard to call it a contest, right?  Roll Eyes
I have absolute zero issues with re-throwing it one more time, or adding some extra time to it.
If you find my submission worthy than I will be happy but in case your lack of satisfaction with signature provided,
let us know. There is almost nothing worse than no closure.
He Poptok1 yes not a lot of competition. We just need to nail something down today then will be in contact with you about kicking it off.

Sorry for the delay everyone in getting the campaign going. Small thing to sort first. Back shortly with kick-off.
hero member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 756
Bobby Fischer was right
Thanks Nick & Tim for such in detail response. Now I'm clear on the subject.
How do you guys plan to progress with the signature contest?
Since it was only me that submitted some work for it, its hard to call it a contest, right?  Roll Eyes
I have absolute zero issues with re-throwing it one more time, or adding some extra time to it.
If you find my submission worthy than I will be happy but in case your lack of satisfaction with signature provided,
let us know. There is almost nothing worse than no closure.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
This is great timing to take risk on this project I hope this will go to the moon.
full member
Activity: 327
Merit: 116
How will the bots be connected to hut34 network?

API's? Or something different?
newbie
Activity: 45
Merit: 0
it is worth looking forward to how the project is continuing, it seems this project is one of good projects ,we must look forward to. however, a project and the concept of the project itself, depending on how they develop it, because so many projects fail because the developers have lost the idea to make their project better

Thanks , we are looking forward to it. We have a laser focus on delivering this one at its core vision. We will always maintain conversation with the community who wants to participate. So please keep talking, asking questions, sharing your ideas and concerns. We think there is a real richness to the project to attract a variety of different developers who can get on board. Grin
newbie
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Merit: 0
It's a real pleasure and I am a believer in this project, hence wanted to be an investor as well. I hope to keep an eye also here every day if possible, even when I am away for a few days.


Hey thats great to hear. The project is very much a community one, so if its before or after the token sale ,  the community needs to get on board and participate. The more data producers (either existing already) or new that opt in the better the overall experience for users. Spread the word!

Thanks/
newbie
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Merit: 0
LEt me ask you this;
How will you entice people to pay for the information on hut34, insread of just googling it?

Info that is readily available on Google has, in our terms, low entropy value - but there may be opportunities for developers to either synthesise readily available information into more valuable data, or otherwise curate it in such a way that it acquires a higher value - it's easier to understand for example, or it's highly reliable, or it speaks to your bicycle's onboard computer directly without fuss - that sort of thing.

Hut34 won't make data any more or less valuable than it already is, to be honest - but what it will do, through the creation of the Hut Network, and a fair and open marketplace for entropy transactions, is allow data providers, and value providers (such as bot developers who curate / synthesise, or otherwise generate) to monetise their efforts - in such a way that the network is 'greater than the sum of its parts' and the value flows fairly across the network....

Another way to think about this is that Hut34 isn't really a consumer offering - it *can* be, of course, but there are many worlds where the first take up comes more firmly from bot developers building bots which are significantly useful, and businesses who wish to consume that data as part of their operations joining the network to access the value - we'll make some announcements in the next couple of days to flesh out some of these models Smiley

Hey @chocobo21 great question.  A little more on that, there are multiple ways to monetise a data transaction. Google is not free. You are the product, and an advertiser pays for your search. I am very close to posting a couple of medium articles that show a couple of different monetisation models for bot developers. A couple of which mean that the 'user' does not pay. A couple of further things to consider as opportunities
1. Think of a corporate bot who could offer its customers a better experience by drawing on data available on the network. All corporates have a cost of sale, this could fit into that. The opportunity to an independent developer is that the corporate could be paying for your data to provide their customer a better experience.
2. Think of Spotify, you can have a 'free' unpaid experience. You are the product, and you accept being served ads occasionally. The ads pay for your free service.  However if you want a better experience you can pay a monthly subscription - and get rid of the ads.
3. For high Entropy value knowledge you could pay for the data directly between owner and user.
4. There is the opportunity to have a 'google' model and have ad served content.

In all of these models the bot developer chooses themselves how they want to monetise and therefore they will attract a different kind of user. Google is one model, the data producer gets to choose nothing, be part of an ad network or not. User gets only one choice. Be served ads. No wonder there is so much rubbish online!

And finally think of conversational platforms, the incentives structures to create great data are limited. Self gratification of getting an audience. Product placement. That a about it. Incentive for the platform are maintain attention of the user so they can track data and advertise to you somewhere else.

Hut34 will bring back control, data producers and recipients will choose how they participate. The opportunity to collaborate as a community is increased on our own terms.
newbie
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Merit: 0
Another question from your importunate, yet friendly neighbor poptok1  Roll Eyes
How exactly a given bot will know that his service was paid?
( I assume that all payments for bots work are "in front payments", right?)
Are bots also a part of Entropy block-chain or do they have some extra plug in to it? 

Hello importunate and friendly Poptok1 Tongue

The beta we have currently tracks interactions between bots and writes transactions to the Ethereum blockchain. Each bot would have its own Entropy Wallet that will show the the transactions between bots. It will not have to be 'forward' paid as this is a perfect use of the Ethereum smart contract feature to manage the transaction. It will be trustless. We are working and testing slightly different architectures to ensure that network runs gas' efficiently. Does that help?
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