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Topic: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure - page 133. (Read 125669 times)

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I really appreciate the decision of the team concerning bounty campaign, like you said there was a post spam toward the end of the campaign, for instance their is participant with the rank of member on signature campaign NO 6 on the signature spreadsheet with the profile  name "bribed" profile link https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bribed-1048959 before the commencement of the signature campaign he had only 56 posts junior member rank but now he has 2040 posts + extra bonus stake of 320 he will consume all the token that suppose to be shared properly amongst other members by spamming and cheating other participants.

With all indications this his activities look  suspicious and spamming. I see this account as an account which belongs to the bounty manager or a member he knows personally or which they plan together to carry out the evil did manipulating other members. I will appreciate if the bounty manager and his coworkers could be checked.

 They are looking for a means to manipulate the bounty and receive the larger part of the token allocated to the bounty campaign. It is not normal and personally to me insane to make such posts without any dubious intrusions.

I cant believe that this person is as despicable to even write this comment into the official ANN.

The accusations that you are doing are totally wrong and despicable. First of all I want to tell you that I am in no way affiliated with the bounty managers or anything. I joined this bounty campaign as one of the first persons to join and after reading the rules I decided to dedicate a lot of my time into this bounty. I did so for 2,5 months, every day.
You are saying that I will eat up all the tokens, but please do the math before you state anything. Its just about your personal post count how much you will be rewarded with. The difference of tokens that each participant will receive wont change much if my stakes wouldnt been taken into account at all. Do the math before writing bs.

The rules of this campaign were given intentionally to incentivice people to post more to promote more. I did post a lot more than other people, but this was my decision to take this opportunity. Everybody had the same opportunity to do so. Now trying to prevent me from getting my fair share just because you are jealous is despicable.
I have worked on this bounty 24/7 and followed all the rules 1:1. You wont find even one post in my history that doesnt fits the rules. But there are a lot of other accs with really low quality posts, or even mainly twitter links that have been shared and those posts are counted. But do I, as someone that has put in so much work complain? No, I dont, because Im granting everyone their share, even the lazy ones.

To be honest I see myself as one of the top promoters of Envion that did put a whole lot of effort in promoting the project and as the rules were from day one, I should be rewarded for the work.
Your post implies to me that you didnt even bother to look up my account, because my actual post count is over 2300 and not 2040 (yes, Im also missing stakes), and henceforth also didnt bother to look at my post quality. (By the way,I have the bonus stakes, because I participated in every bonus opportunity there was, so whats your point?!)

If anything is unfair in this bounty its that translators who only had to translate the ann + boutny thread of Envion (not the WP) will be awarded with a lot of tokens accordingly. In the time that I spent on this forum, posting every day and night, I could have done 100 or more of those translations. Just think of it.

Actually I didnt wanted to post anything towards those people that dont grant the reward to people that have really put in a lot of time and effort, but being attacked personally is too much. You should be ashamed of yourself and think (do the math and take a look at the persons account) before making any accusations.

Just as a side note: our bounty managers are not just some random dudes managing a bounty, they are from a professional firm, so they wont scam anybody around here.

As a second side note: I just checked your posts, and most of them dont even contain 5 words, so please...
newbie
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I really appreciate the decision of the team concerning bounty campaign, like you said there was a post spam toward the end of the campaign, for instance their is participant with the rank of member on signature campaign NO 6 on the signature spreadsheet with the profile  name "bribed" profile link https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bribed-1048959 before the commencement of the signature campaign he had only 56 posts junior member rank but now he has 2040 posts + extra bonus stake of 320 he will consume all the token that suppose to be shared properly amongst other members by spamming and cheating other participants.

With all indications this his activities look  suspicious and spamming. I see this account as an account which belongs to the bounty manager or a member he knows personally or which they plan together to carry out the evil did manipulating other members. I will appreciate if the bounty manager and his coworkers could be checked.

 They are looking for a means to manipulate the bounty and receive the larger part of the token allocated to the bounty campaign. It is not normal and personally to me insane to make such posts without any dubious intrusions.
sr. member
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Dear manager, please correct my twitter report (10.01-14.01) You made a mistake by putting one retweet instead of 10 retweets.
Report number in spreadsheet: 1226
Number in the table Twitter: 1359
Link to Twitter profile: https://twitter.com/Richmon_1

I think you'd better write under the bounty thread. Can be more helpful for you and bunty manager Wink
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/envion-highest-roi-crypto-infrastructure-2m-bounty-available-2349366
newbie
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Found this on Envion Twitter page.

MyEtherWallet.com

Verified account
 
@myetherwallet
 6h6 hours ago
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⚠ After looking into EthZero, we have no clarity as to (1) what the code is (2) who created it (3) if it is properly licensed. Coupled w/ multiple .exe's that are malicious, we recommend NOT INSTALLING NOR USING ANYTHING RELATED TO ETHZERO AS IT PUTS YOUR SYSTEM & ETH AT RISK

Can you elaborate on this?

What does that message imply towards EVN / Envion token holders?

(thanks Smiley )

It means that some forks are just scams and not to install anything if prompted without being sure. Or u will compromise your accounts and could lose Ether/Evn & other MEW tokens in our wallets.
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Dear manager, please correct my twitter report (10.01-14.01) You made a mistake by putting one retweet instead of 10 retweets.
Report number in spreadsheet: 1226
Number in the table Twitter: 1359
Link to Twitter profile: https://twitter.com/Richmon_1
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The internet > you
Found this on Envion Twitter page.

MyEtherWallet.com

Verified account
 
@myetherwallet
 6h6 hours ago
More
⚠ After looking into EthZero, we have no clarity as to (1) what the code is (2) who created it (3) if it is properly licensed. Coupled w/ multiple .exe's that are malicious, we recommend NOT INSTALLING NOR USING ANYTHING RELATED TO ETHZERO AS IT PUTS YOUR SYSTEM & ETH AT RISK

Can you elaborate on this?

What does that message imply towards EVN / Envion token holders?

(thanks Smiley )
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So, you do accept that the projection is feasible considering people invested in mining earned even a lot more than that in past years. You are sceptical because the crypto market can crash and you can't make any profit. That's the same risk when you buy your own mining rig. There's no free money without risks. Envion obviously put a lot of time and effort into this project, the project makes sense, seems feasible and people made a decision that feasibility outweights the risks. If you wanna create your own mining company, create your project put it out there, and people will invest if it's feasible. If you're afraid they'll run away with your money, that's the same risk with every ICO. Then leave the crypto sphere and sit on your cash, nobody is forcing you to take risks.
To me, calling a 17,7x ROI in 5 years a "conservative" projection is not feasible. When I would sell a mining rig and I put an ad on craigslist saying that this will mine a 1,6 ROI in the next year based on the past year and the current difficulty, every expert would call that a scam ad.

It could still be a very good project though and I invested in it based on the concept, but please, don't have that 17,7x ROI on the front page it is just screaming SCAM. But hey, that's how to attract people. I'm sure 50% of the investors don't even know what mining difficulty means. They might not even know the difference between mineable and nonmineable coins. But they do know what 17,7x 'conservative' ROI means. Especially when you have the drag bar. Even the title of this toppic is "most profitable crypto intrastructure". Where are the calculation sheets? What are the assumptions they made to get to that 17,7? What independent universitys or experts have verified those sheets and commented on those assumptions? The answer is simple, they don't exist. But still, the idea of getting concerated miners near power plants is not bad.
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Here you can find some calculations https://app.envion.org

I invested in this ico. I belief in this project.  And i think we getting a nice profit. When they switcing to the most profitable  currency.  My KYC is still submitted,  but I know that they must check a lot of people and i dont care if im the last person to get approved.

I was thinking to build me a mining rig. But this is much better. and i know for sure this give me more profit. And a lot more  when im going reinvest the profits  when i can buy more tokens  for the right price.
But im happy with all profits i dont care if we get 150roi 161roi 200roi 600roi. My tokens made always profit all crypto crash weeks  Smiley
When is Bitcoin done with mining new coins 2022?
sr. member
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yombu

TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOUNTY MANAGER!

Hello guys, I've been monitoring complaints about the projects and I write on the forum if I find something.

The bounty manager of Envion project is probably scamming people. I'm saying "probably" because I wait for his explanation. I read many complaints about their signature campaign and lots of people are complaining about the mistakes in post counting.

I checked the posts of people complaining about post counts and they're mostly correct! The bounty manager is making a huge mistake, I don't know why. Maybe he makes this on purpose.

ONE QUESTION: WHY YOU COUNTED PEOPLE'S POSTS INCORRECTLY ON PURPOSE?

If a person exceeded the minimum post count of 30 within the ICO period, you wrote something below 30, probably randomly, I don't see any logic behind this. It shouldn't be that hard to count people's posts.

I remember that there were post counts on the spreadsheet 5-6-7-8 days prior to the ICO end. What is the point of this? You should have counted the posts after the ICO ends only.

Please correct the situation and provide an explanation to the public or Envion project will be a subject to a scam just because of your incredible mistakes.

Answer this immediately or I'll gladly report this situation to the scam monitoring websites, organizations and platforms.


NOTE: This post will be edited if the problem is fixed by the bounty manager.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28550222

"... we realized that there was quite a bit of abuse of the bounty program—poor quality posts, automated translations, and accounts that are plainly bots were credited on the bounty rolls...."
"...Envion has asked the bounty managers to make a thorough review of all the bounty rolls to remove abusers and to identify the participants who contributed the most...."

Everything seems fine.

As long as we have an official response from Envion team, everything is heading for normality from now on. After reviewing each campaign, the bounty manager will complete the lists and eligible Envion ICO supporters will collect their EVN tokens by their involvement.
newbie
Activity: 64
Merit: 0
Found this on Envion Twitter page.

MyEtherWallet.com

Verified account
 
@myetherwallet
 6h6 hours ago
More
⚠ After looking into EthZero, we have no clarity as to (1) what the code is (2) who created it (3) if it is properly licensed. Coupled w/ multiple .exe's that are malicious, we recommend NOT INSTALLING NOR USING ANYTHING RELATED TO ETHZERO AS IT PUTS YOUR SYSTEM & ETH AT RISK
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
yombu

TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOUNTY MANAGER!

Hello guys, I've been monitoring complaints about the projects and I write on the forum if I find something.

The bounty manager of Envion project is probably scamming people. I'm saying "probably" because I wait for his explanation. I read many complaints about their signature campaign and lots of people are complaining about the mistakes in post counting.

I checked the posts of people complaining about post counts and they're mostly correct! The bounty manager is making a huge mistake, I don't know why. Maybe he makes this on purpose.

ONE QUESTION: WHY YOU COUNTED PEOPLE'S POSTS INCORRECTLY ON PURPOSE?

If a person exceeded the minimum post count of 30 within the ICO period, you wrote something below 30, probably randomly, I don't see any logic behind this. It shouldn't be that hard to count people's posts.

I remember that there were post counts on the spreadsheet 5-6-7-8 days prior to the ICO end. What is the point of this? You should have counted the posts after the ICO ends only.

Please correct the situation and provide an explanation to the public or Envion project will be a subject to a scam just because of your incredible mistakes.

Answer this immediately or I'll gladly report this situation to the scam monitoring websites, organizations and platforms.


NOTE: This post will be edited if the problem is fixed by the bounty manager.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28550222

"... we realized that there was quite a bit of abuse of the bounty program—poor quality posts, automated translations, and accounts that are plainly bots were credited on the bounty rolls...."
"...Envion has asked the bounty managers to make a thorough review of all the bounty rolls to remove abusers and to identify the participants who contributed the most...."

Everything seems fine.
sr. member
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Buy $BGL before it's too late!
Change the campaign manager.
find out the accounts associated with the campaign manager.

Authentication must be done.

This will also hurt the investor.
newbie
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So, you do accept that the projection is feasible considering people invested in mining earned even a lot more than that in past years. You are sceptical because the crypto market can crash and you can't make any profit. That's the same risk when you buy your own mining rig. There's no free money without risks. Envion obviously put a lot of time and effort into this project, the project makes sense, seems feasible and people made a decision that feasibility outweights the risks. If you wanna create your own mining company, create your project put it out there, and people will invest if it's feasible. If you're afraid they'll run away with your money, that's the same risk with every ICO. Then leave the crypto sphere and sit on your cash, nobody is forcing you to take risks.
To me, calling a 17,7x ROI in 5 years a "conservative" projection is not feasible. When I would sell a mining rig and I put an ad on craigslist saying that this will mine a 1,6 ROI in the next year based on the past year and the current difficulty, every expert would call that a scam ad.

It could still be a very good project though and I invested in it based on the concept, but please, don't have that 17,7x ROI on the front page it is just screaming SCAM. But hey, that's how to attract people. I'm sure 50% of the investors don't even know what mining difficulty means. They might not even know the difference between mineable and nonmineable coins. But they do know what 17,7x 'conservative' ROI means. Especially when you have the drag bar. Even the title of this toppic is "most profitable crypto intrastructure". Where are the calculation sheets? What are the assumptions they made to get to that 17,7? What independent universitys or experts have verified those sheets and commented on those assumptions? The answer is simple, they don't exist. But still, the idea of getting concerated miners near power plants is not bad.
By what standarts tho? People invested in mining 5 years ago had maybe 1700x ROI. Compared to that it's very conservative. On the internet there are various mining profitability calculators. For example you can very easily find the projections of ROI for Antminer s9 and RX 480. And those projections are a lot higher than 161%. For example ROI for RX 480 is 550%. If you think 161% is scam you clearly have no idea how profitable crypto mining is.
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more than 100 mill usd already raised, but market just hitbtc ?
how about kucoin or binance ? i think its not hard to be listed on their market with a huge success ICO.

I think now team are very busy in verifying the kyc document and it will take too long because there are many investors who participated in the ICO. So once they distribute the tokens they will start listing in the exchanges.
jr. member
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Yes, the whole community of the bounty hunters is on fire for how they are now treated by the Envion campaign. The Bounty Manager has stopped to update the spreadsheet days before the end of the ICO without counting the posts of the people working in Envion's signature bounty campaign. I've never seen something like that. I hope the team will fix this mistake, otherwise it will be established the bounty campaign being a scam, which of course would produce consequences.
sr. member
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yombu

TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOUNTY MANAGER!

Hello guys, I've been monitoring complaints about the projects and I write on the forum if I find something.

The bounty manager of Envion project is probably scamming people. I'm saying "probably" because I wait for his explanation. I read many complaints about their signature campaign and lots of people are complaining about the mistakes in post counting.

I checked the posts of people complaining about post counts and they're mostly correct! The bounty manager is making a huge mistake, I don't know why. Maybe he makes this on purpose.

ONE QUESTION: WHY YOU COUNTED PEOPLE'S POSTS INCORRECTLY ON PURPOSE?

If a person exceeded the minimum post count of 30 within the ICO period, you wrote something below 30, probably randomly, I don't see any logic behind this. It shouldn't be that hard to count people's posts.

I remember that there were post counts on the spreadsheet 5-6-7-8 days prior to the ICO end. What is the point of this? You should have counted the posts after the ICO ends only.

Please correct the situation and provide an explanation to the public or Envion project will be a subject to a scam just because of your incredible mistakes.

Answer this immediately or I'll gladly report this situation to the scam monitoring websites, organizations and platforms.


NOTE: This post will be edited if the problem is fixed by the bounty manager.
newbie
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So, you do accept that the projection is feasible considering people invested in mining earned even a lot more than that in past years. You are sceptical because the crypto market can crash and you can't make any profit. That's the same risk when you buy your own mining rig. There's no free money without risks. Envion obviously put a lot of time and effort into this project, the project makes sense, seems feasible and people made a decision that feasibility outweights the risks. If you wanna create your own mining company, create your project put it out there, and people will invest if it's feasible. If you're afraid they'll run away with your money, that's the same risk with every ICO. Then leave the crypto sphere and sit on your cash, nobody is forcing you to take risks.
To me, calling a 17,7x ROI in 5 years a "conservative" projection is not feasible. When I would sell a mining rig and I put an ad on craigslist saying that this will mine a 1,6 ROI in the next year based on the past year and the current difficulty, every expert would call that a scam ad.

It could still be a very good project though and I invested in it based on the concept, but please, don't have that 17,7x ROI on the front page it is just screaming SCAM. But hey, that's how to attract people. I'm sure 50% of the investors don't even know what mining difficulty means. They might not even know the difference between mineable and nonmineable coins. But they do know what 17,7x 'conservative' ROI means. Especially when you have the drag bar. Even the title of this toppic is "most profitable crypto intrastructure". Where are the calculation sheets? What are the assumptions they made to get to that 17,7? What independent universitys or experts have verified those sheets and commented on those assumptions? The answer is simple, they don't exist. But still, the idea of getting concerated miners near power plants is not bad.
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161% ROI... per year... guaranteed...
LOL, it looks like just another Ponzi scheme, or scamcoin anyway.
Only scammers can assure a 100% secure profit per year to their vict... ehm, their investors Grin Grin Grin

Nobody guaranteed 161%... it is just a conservative estimate. How about you read the whitepaper first before accusing a scam. I bet you don't even know what a ponzi is...

Mmh do not bet, it's not at all a good idea to lose your money Smiley
Now you call your promises "just an estimate"... of course, of course... BUT MAYBE... (quote)
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Congratulations guys, one of the biggest ones Cool
newbie
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Return on Invest: 161% per year


Projected annual token profit:
Year 1   $1,610
Year 2   $2,258
Year 3   $3,167
Year 4   $4,442
Year 5   $6,230
Total Profit:   $17,707

They talk about 17,707 dollar profit with an investment of 1000 dollar. That is 17,7x the returnon the orginal capital over 5 years. Not 3.88x. Still no alarm bell? WTF
 


If you had invested 1000 in mining 5 years ago, bought new mining rigs every year with your profit, how much money would you have now? Pretty sure you'd have a lot more than that. To add to that point, Envion doesn't particularly promise that money. They promise to distribute 75% of their mining profits among token holders. That profit might be 0, might be 500% depending on the market and mining difficulty. Why do you think mining rigs are sold out the day they hit the market and resold 4-5x the price second hand? Because mining is that much profitable.

If you would have bought 1000 in coins 5 years ago, and kept them, how much money would you have now? Pretty sure you would also have a lot more then 17K. That does not give me the right to assume this will just continue the next 5 years and put that on my website.

That way, I could start my own ICO, a copy of this page, where you can send your bitcoins to me, and I could say I will buy miners with your money but just do nothing, but show a 17x profit the next 5 years at the front page. Why? Because bitcoin went up at least 17x the past 5 years and so that is my projected profit based on current mining and market conditions. And everyone would believe me and would be fine with that. Wtf is this.

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To add to that point, Envion doesn't particularly promise that money.
No they don't promise that money, they only put it on the homepage and say it is a projected output.

"The above model shows the assumed return using an annual projected token profit based on a 25% reinvestment strategy and current mining difficulty & market conditions."

What do they mean current mining difficulty? The mining difficulty for the past 5 years has exploded. What do they mean current market conditions?
 Where is the detailed calculation? This ico, at least the front page, is full of scam signs. Hopefully they deliver good product.
So, you do accept that the projection is feasible considering people invested in mining earned even a lot more than that in past years. You are sceptical because the crypto market can crash and you can't make any profit. That's the same risk when you buy your own mining rig. There's no free money without risks. Envion obviously put a lot of time and effort into this project, the project makes sense, seems feasible and people made a decision that feasibility outweights the risks. If you wanna create your own mining company, create your project put it out there, and people will invest if it's feasible. If you're afraid they'll run away with your money, that's the same risk with every ICO. Then leave the crypto sphere and sit on your cash, nobody is forcing you to take risks.
newbie
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more than 100 mill usd already raised, but market just hitbtc ?
how about kucoin or binance ? i think its not hard to be listed on their market with a huge success ICO.

I also think that binance would be better. Binance has low commissions: only 0,05%. Also binance has a huge volume of trades. Good liquidity is better for coins
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