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jr. member
Activity: 99
Merit: 2
Hello everyone, I wish I have read this topic before I invested, but at least I will try to warn all other members of crypto community.

Do not invest in this ICO, because this project is a SCAM and in the text below I will prove you why. I will file a legal suit to the relevant court of law.

The company “Passado company Limited”, which the team presents as an operator of the Firelotto has nothing to do with the project – nor its director or its owners are among the team members, presented on the official Firelotto.io website. Here is the way how you can verify it by yourself.

This is a screenshot from the official Telegram channel of the project, where the team brags about being registered with the SEC:

https://imgur.com/a/fX6ia

All you need to do is take the first part of the “Accession number” and input it to the official SEC’s EDGAR database https://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml. Here is the result:

https://imgur.com/a/lB592

As you can see, the director of the company is someone Ageev Eduard Viktorovich – you won’t find his name on the FireLotto website (they will now probably add it, so here is the saved version of their website from the 13th of March https://web.archive.org/web/20180313180326/https://firelotto.io/ ). Also take a look at the previous name of the company – “ORIENT TRANS COMPANY LIMITED”.
After googling for this name I found this guy’s profile in the Russian social network - https://ok.ru/profile/172067460095. I wonder if he knows at all that his company makes an ICO. In addition, I found his another company with almost the same name as the previous one at Passado, but registered in Russia (he is also a director there) – Orient Trans Group https://zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1082537004549_2537054212_OOO-OTG. If you look at their website http://www.ottg.ru/, they are just a company involved in international logistics and I highly doubt this guy knows anything about Firelotto ICO. Obviously, both companies were created for international trade and have nothing to do with the Firelotto ICO and their tokens.

To be sure, I also checked the Passado Co Ltd for its owners – you can do it for the additional payment on the official Hong Kong government website https://www.icris.cr.gov.hk/csci/. Here are the free results:

https://imgur.com/kEwXv9P

The company was registered on the 25th of April 2008 – long before the Bitcoin was even created. Here are the results from the paid inquiry:

https://imgur.com/a/gOgCM

As you can also check, mr Mikhail Matuznyi is not presented on the Firelotto website as part of the team.

I assume this to be a complete deception of potential Token Holders and already contacted my lawyer. I saved all the necessary information and in the next couple of days will file a legal suit against these guys to the SEC and other relevant court of law. In the meantime, I recommend all the team members to think twice before flooding this forum with false accusations, preventing the lawyers and other law enforcers from their direct duties.

I also ask all the community members to spread this info as much as possible throughout all the available media resources. #firelotto #scam #firelottoscam
Here is their English Telegram channel: https://t.me/firelotto
Russian: https://t.me/firelottery


Now, this is the confirmation, that Passado Co Ltd which is the Fire lotto operating company (They changed that companies and addresses 3 times already) has nothing to do with the project. Nor its director or its owners are among the team members, presented on the official Firelotto.io website.. Now lets shortly assume some facts:

1. Almost all team of Fire Lotto was previously involved in a scams called cashpokerpro and icolab.me (Check previous posts)

2. There are two fake advisors on Fire Lotto website: Ronnee Ades and Robert Matuk (Check previous posts)

3. Fire Lotto is using 3 (three) fake addresses in Cyprus, Singapore and Hong Kong (Check previous posts)

4. Smart contracts on GitHub are closed source and fake (Check previous posts)

5. Mr. Eduard Ageev, CEO of  Passado Co Ltd which is the Fire lotto operating company has nothing to do with Fire Lotto and is not listed on the website firelotto.io  (Check the post above)

6. Fire Lotto does not have gambling license and is operating illegally  (Check previous posts)

7. Statements about shares in Whitepaper are not correct.

NOW LET ME ASK A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION: IS FIRE LOTTO A SCAM OR NOT?

I'm waiting for the answer of Ronnee Ades. After that, we will see if this project is a scam or not. If Fire Lotto scammers will not answer the questions that were sent via Ronnee and posted over and over in this thread, than it will be crystal clear that FIRE LOTTO IS A SCAM.
member
Activity: 350
Merit: 11
Tommy Cash, why you don't answer? Please! Step by step! Very simple!

Dude.. I guess you really need to visit your doctor... Dozens of members asked you hundred times to stop posting that bullshit about scammers and just answwer to simple questions.

1. Ronnee Ades is not a current adviser, why is she still listed as being one?

2. Robert Matuk is not an adviser, why is he still listed as being one? https://imgur.com/a/LHPQ1

3. The return on investment example in the white paper is incorrectly stated as 20%, it should be 8.4% (if someone paid USD 0.38 for their FLOT tokens, less if they paid more)

3. After the failed CashPokerPro project where investors lost pretty much their whole investment, you started ICOLAB.ME, which listed 2 advisors (Jake Brukhman and Adam Draper) who were not involved with the project at all. Jake posted on Twitter: ATTENTION! "http://icolab.me/ is listing myself and @AdamDraper as advisors to their ICO. I am NOT in ANY WAY affiliated with this project, this sounds like a phishing scheme or scam. Please be advised." You later closed the website. We're afraid you're going to do the same thing again. What is your version of the Icolab.me story?

4. Please prove to us that your application for a gaming license with the Isle of Man Gaming Commission is indeed being processed.

5. In a scenario where 50m tickets remain unsold, and therefore frozen for 1 year, the team will hold 20/50 = 40% of the commission collecting tickets in the first year and 70/100 = 70% of commission collecting tickets after one year, meaning the commission for investors will be halved one year from now. Why are the unsold tokens not burned?

6. Why does your token contract only have 5 transactions?

7.  FireLotto claims "full decentralization and transparency", which seems quite an unrealistic claim when token distribution occurs manually, the team can update the software and we're not allowed to see any source codes.

8. FireLotto uses three different addresses, first Cyprus, then Singapore and finally in Hong Kong, with the Singapore address apparently being in a beauty mall... What's the explanation for that?

9. How are you allowed to sell tokens to US citizens without using KYC?

newbie
Activity: 112
Merit: 0
so many negative reviews,
looking forward to see how it goes.

Scammers attack Fire Lotto ICO. Do not let scammers mislead you! https://hype.codes/scammers-invent-new-ways-attack-ico-projects.

http://image.ibb.co/jPAhQ7/r6bzvbal_mo.jpg
newbie
Activity: 35
Merit: 0
so many negative reviews,
looking forward to see how it goes.
newbie
Activity: 308
Merit: 0
I will contact Andrew Duplessie, who is also listed as an advisor to this fake project. I have reasons to believe, that he is a fake advisor too (We have two fake advisors already) As everybody can see, Fire Lotto  scammers are not answering any questions here.
STOP LYING!Andrew Duplessie is and advisor in Fire Lotto project and helps with funds and promotion on Reddit.
http://image.ibb.co/np3fX7/157.jpg
http://image.ibb.co/fULG5S/158.jpg
member
Activity: 350
Merit: 11
How can we stop this arrogance?  Huh Huh Huh Huh one SCAM after another - cashpokerpro ! they just laugh at us! A thief should sit in jail!
sr. member
Activity: 868
Merit: 278
Hello everyone, I wish I have read this topic before I invested, but at least I will try to warn all other members of crypto community.

Do not invest in this ICO, because this project is a SCAM and in the text below I will prove you why. I will file a legal suit to the relevant court of law.

The company “Passado company Limited”, which the team presents as an operator of the Firelotto has nothing to do with the project – nor its director or its owners are among the team members, presented on the official Firelotto.io website. Here is the way how you can verify it by yourself.

This is a screenshot from the official Telegram channel of the project, where the team brags about being registered with the SEC:

https://imgur.com/a/fX6ia

All you need to do is take the first part of the “Accession number” and input it to the official SEC’s EDGAR database https://www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml. Here is the result:

https://imgur.com/a/lB592

As you can see, the director of the company is someone Ageev Eduard Viktorovich – you won’t find his name on the FireLotto website (they will now probably add it, so here is the saved version of their website from the 13th of March https://web.archive.org/web/20180313180326/https://firelotto.io/ ). Also take a look at the previous name of the company – “ORIENT TRANS COMPANY LIMITED”.
After googling for this name I found this guy’s profile in the Russian social network - https://ok.ru/profile/172067460095. I wonder if he knows at all that his company makes an ICO. In addition, I found his another company with almost the same name as the previous one at Passado, but registered in Russia (he is also a director there) – Orient Trans Group https://zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1082537004549_2537054212_OOO-OTG. If you look at their website http://www.ottg.ru/, they are just a company involved in international logistics and I highly doubt this guy knows anything about Firelotto ICO. Obviously, both companies were created for international trade and have nothing to do with the Firelotto ICO and their tokens.

To be sure, I also checked the Passado Co Ltd for its owners – you can do it for the additional payment on the official Hong Kong government website https://www.icris.cr.gov.hk/csci/. Here are the free results:

https://imgur.com/kEwXv9P

The company was registered on the 25th of April 2008 – long before the Bitcoin was even created. Here are the results from the paid inquiry:

https://imgur.com/a/gOgCM

As you can also check, mr Mikhail Matuznyi is not presented on the Firelotto website as part of the team.

I assume this to be a complete deception of potential Token Holders and already contacted my lawyer. I saved all the necessary information and in the next couple of days will file a legal suit against these guys to the SEC and other relevant court of law. In the meantime, I recommend all the team members to think twice before flooding this forum with false accusations, preventing the lawyers and other law enforcers from their direct duties.

I also ask all the community members to spread this info as much as possible throughout all the available media resources. #firelotto #scam #firelottoscam
Here is their English Telegram channel: https://t.me/firelotto
Russian: https://t.me/firelottery


Now, this is the confirmation, that Passado Co Ltd which is the Fire lotto operating company (They changed that companies and addresses 3 times already) has nothing to do with the project. Nor its director or its owners are among the team members, presented on the official Firelotto.io website.. Now lets shortly assume some facts:

1. Almost all team of Fire Lotto was previously involved in a scams called cashpokerpro and icolab.me (Check previous posts)

2. There are two fake advisors on Fire Lotto website: Ronnee Ades and Robert Matuk (Check previous posts)

3. Fire Lotto is using 3 (three) fake addresses in Cyprus, Singapore and Hong Kong (Check previous posts)

4. Smart contracts on GitHub are closed source and fake (Check previous posts)

5. Mr. Eduard Ageev, CEO of  Passado Co Ltd which is the Fire lotto operating company has nothing to do with Fire Lotto and is not listed on the website firelotto.io  (Check the post above)

6. Fire Lotto does not have gambling license and is operating illegally  (Check previous posts)

7. Statements about shares in Whitepaper are not correct.

NOW LET ME ASK A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION: IS FIRE LOTTO A SCAM OR NOT?
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 10
Blockchain Lotto – sounds great. Probably, there will be the most honest lotto in the world. It would be nice if you expand the capabilities of your service. There are many different lotteries. The more varieties you have, the more customers will connect.  I think 20% of the tokens for the team are a bit much. 10% would be enough for the creators. Good luck with the project.
jr. member
Activity: 67
Merit: 1

Wouldn't the best course of action be to step away from this anyway? If so many important questions remain unanswered there is a reason for it. And it's not a good reason I guess from an investor's point of view.

That sounds like a pretty good solution. Unfortunately, the people that are most vocal here have already invested in the project.

I'm one of them.
sr. member
Activity: 868
Merit: 278
All this questions will be send to Ronnee Ades and the screenshot of her answer will be published here and she will make a tweet about it. After this, your scam will be finally and undeniably confirmed. just wait.

Mosprognoz, I've sent the list of questions to Ronnee and she forwards them to "someone in management at FireLotto", once I get some answers back, I'll post them here. I don't think Ronnee will tweet publicly about it, since she also never posted publicly that she's not a current adviser to FireLotto (as I asked her to do).

I know the admins here have little regard for the truth, but we should stick to the truth (and manage expectations).

We are still willing to believe answers from the FireLotto team, yet the FireLotto team members here seem to have achieved a level of general distrust not seen since the Cold War!

Thank you for your efforts mate. I really hope that together (All of us who is not believing in this scam) we will finally get some answers to the questions that need to be answered. Lets wait for the answer from Ronnee Ades.
full member
Activity: 471
Merit: 105
now everybody is screaming SCAM and tokens are also not selling since 1 week
SO NOW PLEASE END ICO AND GIVE OUR TOKENS QUICKLY WE CAN'T WAIT IN THIS SCAM SCAM I WILL ARREST YOU ALL SCAM TEAM IF YOU DON'T END ICO NOW AND GIVE OUR TOKENS OR REFUND US Angry Angry Angry Angry
member
Activity: 166
Merit: 11
I will contact Andrew Duplessie, who is also listed as an advisor to this fake project. I have reasons to believe, that he is a fake advisor too (We have two fake advisors already) As everybody can see, Fire Lotto  scammers are not answering any questions here.
full member
Activity: 306
Merit: 102
If Firelotto turns out to be a scam this would really be a surprise given the effort done in the promotion, with the partecipation to so many international events. Usually scammers wouldn't make such efforts. But are their online lotteries already working or not? It looks like they are. Again, scammers wouldn't make the effort to deliver a working product ahead of their scam. But of course some of the problems raised seem to real. Couldn't it be that we are in front of a legit project which has been advertised in an irresponsible way, by the use of unnecessary lies? Just a thought of mine.

I absolutely agree.

i second this... the team does seem a bit shady, but the product DOES actually work. the idea is brilliant. if the contract works the way it is intended to, the project will sustain itself, which is the most important part of the equation. The team is not helping itself by not being as transparent as they could be; especially during the ICO stage, where investor confidence is key. i'm still a believer in the project and have invested in the ICO. I, sincerely, hope that the team will get their shit together and make this work.

its a simple yet brilliant concept!



On Monday we will make an official announcement and provide community with all info

Well, Mr. Tommy Cash. Monday is pretty much coming to an end where I live and have yet to see this official announcement you were going to share. You have just helped strengthen what we already know; your words are meaningless. Another good reason for us to forward our questions to someone else who may be more credible.

Wouldn't the best course of action be to step away from this anyway? If so many important questions remain unanswered there is a reason for it. And it's not a good reason I guess from an investor's point of view.
jr. member
Activity: 67
Merit: 1
All this questions will be send to Ronnee Ades and the screenshot of her answer will be published here and she will make a tweet about it. After this, your scam will be finally and undeniably confirmed. just wait.

Mosprognoz, I've sent the list of questions to Ronnee and she forwards them to "someone in management at FireLotto", once I get some answers back, I'll post them here. I don't think Ronnee will tweet publicly about it, since she also never posted publicly that she's not a current adviser to FireLotto (as I asked her to do).

I know the admins here have little regard for the truth, but we should stick to the truth (and manage expectations).

We are still willing to believe answers from the FireLotto team, yet the FireLotto team members here seem to have achieved a level of general distrust not seen since the Cold War!
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
If Firelotto turns out to be a scam this would really be a surprise given the effort done in the promotion, with the partecipation to so many international events. Usually scammers wouldn't make such efforts. But are their online lotteries already working or not? It looks like they are. Again, scammers wouldn't make the effort to deliver a working product ahead of their scam. But of course some of the problems raised seem to real. Couldn't it be that we are in front of a legit project which has been advertised in an irresponsible way, by the use of unnecessary lies? Just a thought of mine.

I absolutely agree.

i second this... the team does seem a bit shady, but the product DOES actually work. the idea is brilliant. if the contract works the way it is intended to, the project will sustain itself, which is the most important part of the equation. The team is not helping itself by not being as transparent as they could be; especially during the ICO stage, where investor confidence is key. i'm still a believer in the project and have invested in the ICO. I, sincerely, hope that the team will get their shit together and make this work.

its a simple yet brilliant concept!



On Monday we will make an official announcement and provide community with all info

Well, Mr. Tommy Cash. Monday is pretty much coming to an end where I live and have yet to see this official announcement you were going to share. You have just helped strengthen what we already know; your words are meaningless. Another good reason for us to forward our questions to someone else who may be more credible.
full member
Activity: 308
Merit: 100
the composition of the program plan of this project is very neat with some supporting items to develop this project, the promotion program has big enough fund allocation by way of bounty campaign, will easy to introduce this project to investor
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
How long will this lottery last? I just signed for another bounty company, and I can't do any movements, and it ends April 13. I will have time to participate.

You can buy lottery tickets, play and win on firelotto.com
Hello, today is Monday and you have promised some announcement about this whole situation containing answers, so please share this statement with us


Hi, i am also patiently waiting for the big announcement. Please share...
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
The accounts of extortionists and the team of scammers are created only to defame the reputation of the project Fire Lotto

Scam team accounts:
- Mosprognoz;
- Circles;
- Gorbal
- atenolol
- flaggin
- kermitas
- hemlockboy
- FLOTS(C)AM


Evidence:
https://image.ibb.co/fp01hn/1.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/hGjDTS/2.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/eCehOS/e7e565b2_e10a_40aa_bcf9_3b3e0c3079a9.jpg
https://b.radikal.ru/b42/1803/6e/f1958c607219.jpg
https://d.radikal.ru/d00/1803/64/3983be6624ea.jpg

I've met some brain dead people but you take the cake. Reasonable questions are being asked here. You don't need to be a scammer to ask those questions. Why you can not understand that is beyond me. I am not asking for any money, nor am I threatening you. What is so hard for you to answer the questions? Calling us scammers is not going to make us go away. Did you not read where I said, as an investor, I expect you to not give any money to the extortionists. Why would I say something like that if I were a scammer?
sr. member
Activity: 868
Merit: 278
The accounts of extortionists and the team of scammers are created only to defame the reputation of the project Fire Lotto

Dude.. I guess you really need to visit your doctor... Dozens of members asked you hundred times to stop posting that bullshit about scammers and just answwer to simple questions.

1. Ronnee Ades is not a current adviser, why is she still listed as being one?

2. Robert Matuk is not an adviser, why is he still listed as being one? https://imgur.com/a/LHPQ1

3. The return on investment example in the white paper is incorrectly stated as 20%, it should be 8.4% (if someone paid USD 0.38 for their FLOT tokens, less if they paid more)

3. After the failed CashPokerPro project where investors lost pretty much their whole investment, you started ICOLAB.ME, which listed 2 advisors (Jake Brukhman and Adam Draper) who were not involved with the project at all. Jake posted on Twitter: ATTENTION! "http://icolab.me/ is listing myself and @AdamDraper as advisors to their ICO. I am NOT in ANY WAY affiliated with this project, this sounds like a phishing scheme or scam. Please be advised." You later closed the website. We're afraid you're going to do the same thing again. What is your version of the Icolab.me story?

4. Please prove to us that your application for a gaming license with the Isle of Man Gaming Commission is indeed being processed.

5. In a scenario where 50m tickets remain unsold, and therefore frozen for 1 year, the team will hold 20/50 = 40% of the commission collecting tickets in the first year and 70/100 = 70% of commission collecting tickets after one year, meaning the commission for investors will be halved one year from now. Why are the unsold tokens not burned?

6. Why does your token contract only have 5 transactions?

7.  FireLotto claims "full decentralization and transparency", which seems quite an unrealistic claim when token distribution occurs manually, the team can update the software and we're not allowed to see any source codes.

8. FireLotto uses three different addresses, first Cyprus, then Singapore and finally in Hong Kong, with the Singapore address apparently being in a beauty mall... What's the explanation for that?

9. How are you allowed to sell tokens to US citizens without using KYC?
newbie
Activity: 112
Merit: 0
The accounts of extortionists and the team of scammers are created only to defame the reputation of the project Fire Lotto

Scam team accounts:
- Mosprognoz;
- Circles;
- Gorbal
- atenolol
- flaggin
- kermitas
- hemlockboy
- FLOTS(C)AM


Evidence:
https://image.ibb.co/fp01hn/1.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/hGjDTS/2.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/eCehOS/e7e565b2_e10a_40aa_bcf9_3b3e0c3079a9.jpg
https://b.radikal.ru/b42/1803/6e/f1958c607219.jpg
https://d.radikal.ru/d00/1803/64/3983be6624ea.jpg
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