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Topic: 🔥[ANN][ICO] MONEYPOT X (MPX) -- Fuel the Moneypot Network | Built Products🌟 (Read 10839 times)

legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
1. We didn't tell you to buy Rubies.  We always told people not to buy or sell based on our announcements.  You are responsible for that.  
1a.  We tied in R2B2 and promised to provide a floor for it.  Something that INCREASED the price and the value of your holdings.  Us doing this did not at all give you a loss.

2. You invested on your own accord.  You knew the risks.  You lost.  Gambling and investing in house bankroll doesn't guarantee a profit.  We wish it did.
2a.  We said that we would start crediting users starting over the year from other sources.  You have continually attempted and successfully sabotaged us (many users have directly referenced you for reasons not to get involved) making it harder for us to do this.
2b.  You did not lose anything by us saying this.  

3.  You have not been a part of the Moneypot network for some time now.  You left on your own accord.  We did not kick or force you out even though 95% of the people involved with Moneypot wanted it to happen.
3b.  You are treated differently than everyone else because you always try to break the rules, attack moneypot and any associated projects, anyone that speaks anything positive about moneypot, and have insulted, threatened, and demanded payment from us backed by threats of consequence.

We have tried to work things out with you.  You are unwilling to ever have a civil conversation.  We have asked you several times to ask all questions in direct communication so we can inform you on all that's happening.  You refused everytime opting to post long incoherent texts with carefully placed quotes from different times and sources and context to try and push your agenda.  

I fully believe that your only purpose is to try and damage moneypot and anything it is associated to.  You have succeeded and I won't let you succeed anymore.  You will not need to 'defend yourself' in this thread as you claim as this will be the last time responding to you here.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
We made a promise to keep the floor of 1000 Satoshi for Rubies.  We have held this promise and haven't refused a single person to this date. 

There are no guarantees. It is much harder when the model that is supposed to make it work is constantly attacked by the same people demanding value out of it, but we are doing our best to manage it all.

Are you saying there's a difference between a promise and a guarantee? Why do you need to "do your best to manage it" rather than just paying him? Are you having solvency issues, or what is the difficulty in managing things here?

His actions shouldn't be rewarded by his threats or asking others to threaten us of receiving negative trust.

Nobody asked me to threaten anyone.

I commented a year ago about how your promised floor price seemed unreasonable, and now I see you telling a customer who is asking you to honor your promise to "fuck off". That's not a good look.

There is always a difference between guarantees and promises.  Anyone that gives guarantees most likely can't guarantee it. 

Because the only reason why we supported this floor was because it was to be used to setup a network that would eventually make it worthwhile to do so.  Having someone constantly attack it and take advantage of it makes it hard to make or manage the system to actually work.

JPR is not a customer.  We didn't sell him Rubies.  He doesn't use our network. 

And We don't treat anyone else the same.  I'm not sure if you know about JPR's constant stalking or not, but I assure you if he did it to you, you would not treat him the same either.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
A reminder to PLEASE SET YOUR REFUND ADDRESS on the ico.moneypot.com website.  E-mails will be sent to remind those that have not yet done so.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
As of this time, the ICO is set to be canceled.  Refunds will be issued in full to all parties.

We will be adding an option to state your refund address or confirm re-payment to the original sending address.  We will give sufficient time for this to be set.  Some time may be needed to coordinate with the escrows to issue all the payouts.

For the sake of privacy, I ask that you PM me or e-mail [email protected] for any questions you may have or assistance needed in this process.

legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
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as we believed you because we did not have any reason not to believe you we bought many RBIES even for 14k Satoshi each. ask @BTCJoe he knows exactly the prices because he also was buying many RBIES in those times. why did we buy? be


So.. how many rbies are we talking about?
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oh are you interested to buy some?
member
Activity: 80
Merit: 14
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as we believed you because we did not have any reason not to believe you we bought many RBIES even for 14k Satoshi each. ask @BTCJoe he knows exactly the prices because he also was buying many RBIES in those times. why did we buy? be


[/quote]
So.. how many rbies are we talking about?
sr. member
Activity: 501
Merit: 340
Bye Felisha!
It will show up in the future. We just have not implemented the investment portal yet. When I get home I will forward you your balance.

member
Activity: 80
Merit: 14
Hey Crazycraig,
No.. I know how much it is.. But It must show up on my account, like in the old days..

Or.. is it, that, since you implement MPX the current BTC invested in the bankroll do not show up anymore?
Well... anyway. do not want to hijack this thread for this problem. send me a pm with my bankroll and we take it from there.
sr. member
Activity: 501
Merit: 340
Bye Felisha!
Hey MPX team,
can you tell us, when you will have the Wallet function up and working. And the trading platform.

I sometimes thinks you should reconsider the name.. Might be that "MONEYPOT" was just not a lucky idea.
Serious Wallets, like Blockchain  or Trading sites like Kraken are already difficult to trust.. but MONEYPOT.

Also.. I must state that I am a current investor and my login DOES NOT show my Bankroll amount invested anymore.. Which other investors might interpret as "scam".. Which I am sure it is not.. But it should keep on stating.. after all. the gambling part of MP is going on ...

m

The wallet functionality is up and running on MoneyPot.com. There is still a few coins that we are in the process of adding, but right now LTC, BTC, and Dash are live.

The investment portal is still under construction. If you would like your balance etc I would be happy to get that for you and send it to you privately in a few hours. (Not around computer)
member
Activity: 80
Merit: 14
Hey MPX team,
can you tell us, when you will have the Wallet function up and working. And the trading platform.

I sometimes thinks you should reconsider the name.. Might be that "MONEYPOT" was just not a lucky idea.
Serious Wallets, like Blockchain  or Trading sites like Kraken are already difficult to trust.. but MONEYPOT.

Also.. I must state that I am a current investor and my login DOES NOT show my Bankroll amount invested anymore.. Which other investors might interpret as "scam".. Which I am sure it is not.. But it should keep on stating.. after all. the gambling part of MP is going on ...

m
full member
Activity: 232
Merit: 105
JPR you clearly have a following and have turned people off of this ICO that MP is trying to put together. MP and MPX are separate entities from which Dogedigital has expressed. They are doing this in order (my assumptions) to separate the previous investors, which they are paying back, from the current/potential investors in this round. It's also clear that JPR and Dogedigital have history and bad blood between them. It's also clear that with this ICO that they are trying to run is to build the MP brand so that MP can have cashflow to pay back previous investors as well as pay the MPX investors. When I looked into this it appeared to be a solid plan and looked promising. Dogedigital has appeared in this thread to be transparent and accommodating, with the exception being to JPR. JPR admitted that he, along with others unknown, were part of the MP network and at the announcement of MP that they would accept rubies JPR along with others purchased, and gave away rubies, as promos in order to lure potential customers. For some reason, business or other, MP didn't accept rubies. JPR is now demanding that MP pay back 6+ BTC with interest and demands that MP buy his rubies at a set upon price. It is unknown what agreement was made for a floor price for 1000 sat each.

Clearly this is an ANN for an ICO for MPX, not personal grudges or pre-determined, or not, agreements to be made.

Have I missed anything?

yes you missed all points! go back and do your homework and DD

you are a newbie with few postings. I wouldnt even say that you are an alt of one of the MP owners cause they wouldnt write such a BS

Just because I don't have as many posts as you, I've been on the forum for quite some time. I am not an alt of the op.

So what points have I missed? please explain.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
JPR you clearly have a following and have turned people off of this ICO that MP is trying to put together. MP and MPX are separate entities from which Dogedigital has expressed. They are doing this in order (my assumptions) to separate the previous investors, which they are paying back, from the current/potential investors in this round. It's also clear that JPR and Dogedigital have history and bad blood between them. It's also clear that with this ICO that they are trying to run is to build the MP brand so that MP can have cashflow to pay back previous investors as well as pay the MPX investors. When I looked into this it appeared to be a solid plan and looked promising. Dogedigital has appeared in this thread to be transparent and accommodating, with the exception being to JPR. JPR admitted that he, along with others unknown, were part of the MP network and at the announcement of MP that they would accept rubies JPR along with others purchased, and gave away rubies, as promos in order to lure potential customers. For some reason, business or other, MP didn't accept rubies. JPR is now demanding that MP pay back 6+ BTC with interest and demands that MP buy his rubies at a set upon price. It is unknown what agreement was made for a floor price for 1000 sat each.

Clearly this is an ANN for an ICO for MPX, not personal grudges or pre-determined, or not, agreements to be made.

Have I missed anything?

yes you missed all points! go back and do your homework and DD

you are a newbie with few postings. I wouldnt even say that you are an alt of one of the MP owners cause they wouldnt write such a BS
full member
Activity: 232
Merit: 105
JPR you clearly have a following and have turned people off of this ICO that MP is trying to put together. MP and MPX are separate entities from which Dogedigital has expressed. They are doing this in order (my assumptions) to separate the previous investors, which they are paying back, from the current/potential investors in this round. It's also clear that JPR and Dogedigital have history and bad blood between them. It's also clear that with this ICO that they are trying to run is to build the MP brand so that MP can have cashflow to pay back previous investors as well as pay the MPX investors. When I looked into this it appeared to be a solid plan and looked promising. Dogedigital has appeared in this thread to be transparent and accommodating, with the exception being to JPR. JPR admitted that he, along with others unknown, were part of the MP network and at the announcement of MP that they would accept rubies JPR along with others purchased, and gave away rubies, as promos in order to lure potential customers. For some reason, business or other, MP didn't accept rubies. JPR is now demanding that MP pay back 6+ BTC with interest and demands that MP buy his rubies at a set upon price. It is unknown what agreement was made for a floor price for 1000 sat each.

Clearly this is an ANN for an ICO for MPX, not personal grudges or pre-determined, or not, agreements to be made.

Have I missed anything?
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
We have no idea why your account has invalid credentials.  Nothing has changed with the login system.  PM me and I can help you recover the account if you have forgotten your password.

Our support has been slow as we've been getting a lot of e-mails and issues sorted out with the new system.  This is our fault and we apologize for that.  Your e-mail must have been gotten lost trying to sort out other matters.

The backend is still being worked on as we explained before and takes time to calculate as there's a bit of math involved.

We are still able to divest you as we are working everything as explained by the support team.   Nothing has changed.

The investor's stats have always been known.  You can find more information here ( https://dicesites.com/moneypot ) for a more complete breakdown.



hi there. this time guys were really fast Smiley) the issue solved. thanks!!! good luck!!!!

 I am glad for you but (edited) this proofs that in my case they are not that fast and it looks like they wanna steal my RBIES/BTC because I gave sent it more than 12 hours ago and Dogedigital is running around in all threads and telling me that the support is very busy and I need to wait, hmm

his posting:

We are clearly behind a bit in support.  This is why we asked for some time too.  We knew that you would be making demands and starting more fud.  Our priority right now is to try and limit the FUD that damages not only our business but others involved in it. You are the one fueling this.  Stop.  We said that we would get to it and we will.

 I call it a dirty game and I call Dogedigital a THIEF! if he has time to post in every thread he could have send it already a few times
member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
We have no idea why your account has invalid credentials.  Nothing has changed with the login system.  PM me and I can help you recover the account if you have forgotten your password.

Our support has been slow as we've been getting a lot of e-mails and issues sorted out with the new system.  This is our fault and we apologize for that.  Your e-mail must have been gotten lost trying to sort out other matters.

The backend is still being worked on as we explained before and takes time to calculate as there's a bit of math involved.

We are still able to divest you as we are working everything as explained by the support team.   Nothing has changed.

The investor's stats have always been known.  You can find more information here ( https://dicesites.com/moneypot ) for a more complete breakdown.



hi there. this time guys were really fast Smiley) the issue solved. thanks!!! good luck!!!!
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
these guys are SCAM!

i was investor at moneypot for more then year. i started with pretty decent sum of BTC, but quite fast it started get into losses and i w/draw'ed most of fund, and left about 0.05 BTC just to survey. during this time this investment lost 50% of its body. and about month ago it was 25200.01 satoshes.

here is my post from October 27, 2016 to MONEYPOT offical thread about latest HUGE winnings, and, eventually, losses for investors. it happened several time with HUGE winnings and all started sounds very fishy. here is the link to my post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16703273

after latest dashboard upgrade, when i accessed my account i didn't find any BTC on my account. when wrote to moneypot support got response, that they are working on... but they can do divest manually. since then there is silence.



moreover, when i tried to access recently my account on moneypot, i got: "Invalid Credentials"



I am glad that MP cant say that it is me with another alt but they will tell you that your posting is libel ( they love this word always with the wrong people )

could it be that you are eligible to get your losses back with 6% interest as Dogedidgital promised? please check it because it would be a pity if you dont get it
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
We have no idea why your account has invalid credentials.  Nothing has changed with the login system.  PM me and I can help you recover the account if you have forgotten your password.

Our support has been slow as we've been getting a lot of e-mails and issues sorted out with the new system.  This is our fault and we apologize for that.  Your e-mail must have been gotten lost trying to sort out other matters.

The backend is still being worked on as we explained before and takes time to calculate as there's a bit of math involved.

We are still able to divest you as we are working everything as explained by the support team.   Nothing has changed.

The investor's stats have always been known.  You can find more information here ( https://dicesites.com/moneypot ) for a more complete breakdown.

member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
#update_1: the issue solved! they contact restored! good luck!

these guys are SCAM!

i was investor at moneypot for more then year. i started with pretty decent sum of BTC, but quite fast it started get into losses and i w/draw'ed most of fund, and left about 0.05 BTC just to survey. during this time this investment lost 50% of its body. and about month ago it was 25200.01 satoshes.

here is my post from October 27, 2016 to MONEYPOT offical thread about latest HUGE winnings, and, eventually, losses for investors. it happened several time with HUGE winnings and all started sounds very fishy. here is the link to my post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16703273

after latest dashboard upgrade, when i accessed my account i didn't find any BTC on my account. when wrote to moneypot support got response, that they are working on... but they can do divest manually. since then there is silence.



moreover, when i tried to access recently my account on moneypot, i got: "Invalid Credentials"

i.e.

SCAM!!!!!!! LIE TO INVESTORS ABOUT PROFIT OF MONEYPOT! IT'S LIE! I HAVE FULL LOG OF MY INVESTMENT AND CAN SHOW HOW IT DEGRADED FOR MORE THEN YEAR! NOW, WHEN THEY STOLE MY MONEY AND DOESN'T RESPOND I CONSIDER THIS AFFAIR IS VERY FISHY!

BE AWARE!

here is some stats from my internal recordings, that i do in paranoid details Smiley

-50% per year are real MONEYPOT stats! BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!


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14-Aug-2016   2.0485
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29-Oct-2016   0.0392
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legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
1. We didn't tell you to buy Rubies.  We always told people not to buy or sell based on our announcements.  You are responsible for that. 
1a.  We tied in R2B2 and promised to provide a floor for it.  Something that INCREASED the price and the value of your holdings.  Us doing this did not at all give you a loss.

dont you read what I am writing? or are you ignoring it by purpose cause you dont like it?
I agree you did not tell us to buy RBIES but almost 2 years ago you announced that you will implement "Soon" RBIES. we as app owners bought RBIES and did a lot of Promos!!! what is wrong with this? who profited from this? yes BB the only app who accepted RBIES and you as MP owners! and again and again you announced RBIES will be implemented "Soon"! do you have the balls to deny this?
we lost with the RBIES we bought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont tell me that we didnt

but yes you did not tell us to buy! we took the loss and we dont blame you! I agree but I missed the "dont invest more than you can afford to lose"

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2. You invested on your own accord.  You knew the risks.  You lost.  Gambling and investing in house bankroll doesn't guarantee a profit.  We wish it did.
2a.  We said that we would start crediting users starting over the year from other sources.  You have continually attempted and successfully (many users have directly referenced you for reasons not to get involved) in allowing us to do this.
2b.  You did not lose anything by us saying this. 

as I said above yes we bought on our own record because we were app owners and used it for free promos.

can we agree that gamblers and investors need to know or to be told "dont invest more than you can afford to lose"

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3.  You have not been a part of the Moneypot network for some time now.  You left on your own accord.  We did not kick or force you out even though 95% of the people involved with Moneypot wanted it to happen.
3b.  You are treated differently than everyone else because you always try to break the rules, attack moneypot and any associated projects, anyone that speaks anything positive about moneypot, and have insulted, threatened, and demanded payment from us backed by threats of consequence.

we left on our own record because you did all you can that we will quit and we did it finally! Dont tell lies! you with you I mean all but not Ranlo but especially Rango aka AcoinL aka Blacksheep aka MattN and Ray the head dev did attack us and told us to leave or they will take care that you will cut us out from the API. hmm you forgot this? sure thing because it was a threat from self declared dictators LOL!!!

I asked you to start to keep your promises and to pay the investors! I asked you to buy RBIES as promised but you guys think the world is yours and you dont need to keep promises! NO the world is not yours! it is not because you promised and you need to keep those and only then it is yours!

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We have tried to work things out with you.  You are unwilling to ever have a civil conversation.  We have asked you several times to ask all questions in direct communication so we can inform you on all that's happening.  You refused everytime opting to post long incoherent texts with carefully placed quotes from different times and sources and context to try and push your agenda. 

I fully believe that your only purpose is to try and damage moneypot and anything it is associated to.  You have succeeded and I won't let you succeed anymore.  You will not need to 'defend yourself' in this thread as you claim as this will be the last time responding to you here.

I told you more than once that I am your mirror. it is you who is not able to have a civil conversation! just check right now all threads and your postings there. you are only attacking!
 I have sent you some RBIES to the address you gave me overnight. why dont you send the BTC instead of losing time with not civil conversations? you should make the new start if you like it or not or if you hate me or not.

btw I do a bet that you will respond to me as you did now and before even you already threatened this is your last answer to me. you just cant keep a promise!!!!
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
I view the situation like this:

A restaurant puts out a deal saying 1/2 price dinner Fridays before 12:00AM at close.

[...]

I think many would agree that the restaurant should tell you to fuck right off.

It sounds to me like the situation is like this:

A website made a guarantee that they would provide a floor for the Rubies price by promising to always buy them back at 1000 satoshis each, and later the website went back on its word and started telling people to fuck off.

There was nothing in the promise about having to be nice to the website, or never to criticize it, or any such terms. Just a blanket floor price.

Am I misunderstanding something? Or has MoneyPot broken its promise?

I don't want to go throwing "red trust" around when I possibly don't understand the full picture, so please clarify what's going on here. Particularly in reference to the floor price promise and whether that promise is being broken or not. I'm less interested in any rudeness, bad reviews, or restaurant analogies.

We made a promise to keep the floor of 1000 Satoshi for Rubies.  We have held this promise and haven't refused a single person to this date.  

There are no guarantees. It is much harder when the model that is supposed to make it work is constantly attacked by the same people demanding value out of it, but we are doing our best to manage it all.

We did ask JPR to wait, as we don't want to be forced to work outside of our stated hours and on his time when he is constantly making demands and attacking us. He shouldn't need to send 5 e-mails over the weekend when support isn't available or purposely post in the wrong thread.  He has received a sending address to complete the transaction.

His actions shouldn't be rewarded by his threats or asking others to threaten us of receiving negative trust.  We don't want to keep getting blackmailed and we don't want him demanding immediate responses or to cave in to his every request the more it's tolerated.  

edit; And you can not use JPR to generalize as people.  He is a special case and is treated differently because of his constant malicious intent and attacks on Moneypot.

you should stop telling lies and I auto stop defending me against your lies, easy as that.

if I ask on your holy weekend for a RBIES address your ugly support guy could write " please wait until monday and we do the deal" but if your ugly support guy has time to attack me I would suggest to fire him cause in same mail on your holy weekend he could write " please wait till owners will be back and send you the addy on sunday"! thats what I would do and in any case why should he attack me when I am writing please send ma an address?

it also looks that you are intentionally overseeing my answer regarding my other mails not on your holy weekend.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22212143

hmm and Tuesday the 19th is also weekend? 2nd try on the 20th (no weekend). 3rd try on the 21st (no weekend)
then many stupid mails from your support ( I would really know who was this supporter on your end? show me your balls? )

until finally this smart ass agreed to send the addy to make the deal.

I am sure you know the mail conversation and you should be ashamed for such a support behavior.

you should fire this supporter


stop your ugly lies and I will have no reason to answer you and prove who is the Liar!

you made a promise but no guarantee HUH? do you know what you are saying?

Everyone should respect their own rights when it comes to a critical decision making, he shouldn't be that hasty to ask you. I think he's too emotional when it comes to this matter. He should keep his patience and calmly wait for the decision of the dev.

I would like to see you when you lose 4 BTC or bough a lot of RBIES even for 14k satoshi each in those times almost 2 years ago when MP promised to implement RBIES ( we have been app owners in those times)

you would not sit on your mouth/hands and wait years for MP to fulfill their promises!

JPR
This is the wrong thread for the RBIES stuff. Clearly you have issues with the Moneypot team and that is your right, but you are way off topic for this thread. Obviously you are posting it here to damage the current ICO they are holding. My suggestion is to relax a bit and give them a little time to make good on their 1k satoshi per RBIES offer. If I were in their shoes I would not be in a hurry to help you out either with your constant off topic posting in all of these threads.

@Blazed

I agree with you regarding wrong thread but I hope you are aware that the main Moenypot thread sadly was closed and is still closed!
I also posted in R2B2 thread even Dogedigital is saying I didnt. what would you do if you dont get any answer or a stupid attack? please check the R2B2 thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/r2b2-rubies-2-monthly-dividends-bettable-currency-1020-1737000

to be frank I dont like when you are saying that I damage their ICO! MP owners damaged it in first place becuase they showed that their promises cant be trusted and this already about 2 years when the bought MP. read back if it is new to you and tell me which promise they fulfilled?

I suggest to all of you and try to walk a bit in my shoes to get the feeling ho wit is to be attacked as a Liar even I tell the truth. please also read my answer that will follow to Dogedigital


There is always a difference between guarantees and promises.  Anyone that gives guarantees most likely can't guarantee it. 

Because the only reason why we supported this floor was because it was to be used to setup a network that would eventually make it worthwhile to do so.  Having someone constantly attack it and take advantage of it makes it hard to make or manage the system to actually work.

JPR is not a customer.  We didn't sell him Rubies.  He doesn't use our network. 

And We don't treat anyone else the same.  I'm not sure if you know about JPR's constant stalking or not, but I assure you if he did it to you, you would not treat him the same either.

interesting that you are saying there is always a difference between guarantees and promises!  I always thought the same and it is not worth to mention it that it is a difference but you are saying that guarantees cant keep the guarantee, hmm so dont give a guarantee. oh actually you are saying that is the reason why you did not give a guarantee.  therefore you  give promises? why? because promises dont need to be kept and therefore you dont keep your promises? very interesting insight!

to be frank I dont care about the reason why you did promise the floor. few users even thought why are you doing this? and you even did not answer in those times. (dooglus was asking a good question and did not get an answer)it was your business decision and not mine or anyone of your customers.

what I liked best now is "JPR is not a customer.  We didn't sell him Rubies.  He doesn't use our network."

lets see if you will once go with the truth

Jackpotracer team owned an app when you bought MP from RHavar almost 2 years ago. you announced to implement RBIES  '" Soon"
as we believed you because we did not have any reason not to believe you we bought many RBIES even for 14k Satoshi each. ask @BTCJoe he knows exactly the prices because he also was buying many RBIES in those times. why did we buy? because we did many promos and gave away the RBIES for free just to attract customers cause we were believing your promise to implement RBIES "Soon"

please dont force me to search for all those promos and to post all here and how much we gave away for free. we attracted many new customers with those promos. please understand that the RBIES were not yet implemented but many customers were glad to get free RBIES from us. yes form us!!! but you are saying now JPR is not a customer - we didnt sell hm RBIES - he doesnt use our Network?
again shame on you! we bought in those times because of your empty promise!
that should be enough IMO that we bought for an immense price and lost a lot till today and we were selling a part and keeping a part because you promised again and again until today that you will implement RBIES and now you are even trying to avoid and denying to buy the RBIES we have? are you for real?

I am sure you will say " dont invest more than you can afford to lose" please do me a favor and say it!

you guys love to use words like  stalking and libel. I remember very well when you told dooglus his posting is libel and RHavar jumped in to explain to you what libel is. let me explain again.
I dont owe you 1 Satoshi!!!
you MP owes me 4 BTC +6% interest (and not only me)
you did deny to buy my RBIES ( to be frank I received this morning an addy and I sent already some RBIES and lets see if I get my BTC)

stop your lies about me and I will not have a reason to defend myself

get real and transparent! users and customers will appreciate it. I am not your enemy! whenever you or your CO-Partners will attack me I will defend myself!









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