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legendary
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legendary
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Savedroid has a new side-project. Now they're in the "news-business":

https://www.mynewster.com

Just scroll down to "Imprint" and you'll find the usual suspects.


Finally they've found something never ever thought about before.

They remind me of Steve Jobs and Apple, it's always about the "next big thing". First they brought Crypto-Saving to the masses, then they've helped others to raise a shitton of money (Coinanalalala.....lost), then they brought Corona-suppoort-money to.... themselves. Now they're innovative again and starting a news-app.

What could be the next big thing?

- maybe they'll make it possible to read books not only on paper anymore but on a computer!
- or imagine they would find a way that kids could post funny little videos on this new thing called internet!
- or maybe they'll make it possible to listen to music using an App! Yes... while you are outside!
- or even better: they start a streaming platform and publish documentaries how damn hard they work.

I sure hope for the last idea. Remember the making-of-video that they published after their "we're-gone-Pr-Stunt"? It was so great!


Who knows what innovative minds like they are will do next. But for sure, they'll never disappoint. Or, of course that's a question of different perspectives here... some may say "never stop to disappoint".


sr. member
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still someone here ?
legendary
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Savedroid is making headlines in Germany again!


It doesn't get as much attention as their masterfully executed PR-Stunt to burn their Investors, but also ugly:

Savedroid nutzt Corona-Not aus
https://www.wallstreet-online.de/nachricht/12380359-savedroid-corona-not

The headline says: Savedroid exploits Corona-Suffering

Short explanation: Savedroid made a website (http://covidsoforthilfe.de) that pretends to offer help to small firms and entrepreneurs that are in trouble because of the economical Corona-crisis to get the real help, the support-money from the Government. Savedroids offer is advisory to get the official/bureaucratic stuff done.


I have no clue why they would do that, other than:

1) They want 5% of the payout those firms and entrepreneurs get from the state
2) They probably believe that would be nice PR

We all know how good their sense is when it's about the latter.... They are kind of autistic when it's about anticipating other perspectives.


The article above really destroys them and concludes by giving a clear advice: "Stay away from everything what Savedroid offers."


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Does holding Savedroid make you happy? Today's SVD has decreased 38%, this is great LoL, what makes SVD prices like this? please tell me, if this continues, is there a future in this coin?
If you want to invest, I advise you to stay away from this project. Savedroid doesn't have a lot of good exchanges, trading volume is low, the token value keeps dropping. unless you have several reasons that support you to invest here.
legendary
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Get Rekt
Everyone please take note of who was supporting this project, giving it stages to speak, giving it the thumbs up, or even being an advisor for it.
full member
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Maybe they have another way or hope to see the price of the coin grow rapidly next year. But everyone has the right to have a choice of coins which they find very beneficial or to make their hearts happy with what they have held.
Does holding Savedroid make you happy? Today's SVD has decreased 38%, this is great LoL, what makes SVD prices like this? please tell me, if this continues, is there a future in this coin?

I think that price everyone already knows with the price of the queen all the coins has gone down very badly. If Bitcoin goes down all types of Altcoin it will definitely have an impact.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Maybe they have another way or hope to see the price of the coin grow rapidly next year. But everyone has the right to have a choice of coins which they find very beneficial or to make their hearts happy with what they have held.
Does holding Savedroid make you happy? Today's SVD has decreased 38%, this is great LoL, what makes SVD prices like this? please tell me, if this continues, is there a future in this coin?
It looks like that guy above you is a scamdroid supporter and it has reflected from his post about that. Investors are getting fooled by the scam project if they know that will be a scam and they will never try to buy scamdroid

If arnau is still active and maybe he will feel good about that.
Just curious how much people will say a lot of non sense thing about that.
legendary
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Maybe they have another way or hope to see the price of the coin grow rapidly next year. But everyone has the right to have a choice of coins which they find very beneficial or to make their hearts happy with what they have held.
Does holding Savedroid make you happy? Today's SVD has decreased 38%, this is great LoL, what makes SVD prices like this? please tell me, if this continues, is there a future in this coin?

There is no volume with zero liquidity these are the signs which define the future of any project. This project is not the track so this could be very risky to keep buying with hope to make big fortune. I think so it will be much hard for this project to build a big community again.
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C O M B O
Maybe they have another way or hope to see the price of the coin grow rapidly next year. But everyone has the right to have a choice of coins which they find very beneficial or to make their hearts happy with what they have held.
Does holding Savedroid make you happy? Today's SVD has decreased 38%, this is great LoL, what makes SVD prices like this? please tell me, if this continues, is there a future in this coin?
full member
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Soil.co - Earn USDT/USDC
Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
what legal issues happen to savedroid developers ?
I have SVD token, last day I'am bought SVD On exchanger HITBTC.
if this will have an impact on this project I will get out of this zone as soon as possible.
why are you interested in buying SVD? seeing SVD is in 1108 Coinmarketcap and only has a daily volume of $ 5,
it makes me avoid coins or tokens of this kind !, I suggest selling and turning to projects in the top 1-200 Coinmarketcap because they still have better chances than this!

Maybe they have another way or hope to see the price of the coin grow rapidly next year. But everyone has the right to have a choice of coins which they find very beneficial or to make their hearts happy with what they have held.
sr. member
Activity: 385
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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)

haha salty
tyz
legendary
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For everyone who want to legally hack Savedroid, here you go  Cheesy

They have a program on hacker1
https://hackerone.com/savedroid

Fortunately, they don't pay in SVD.
sr. member
Activity: 2002
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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
what legal issues happen to savedroid developers ?
I have SVD token, last day I'am bought SVD On exchanger HITBTC.
if this will have an impact on this project I will get out of this zone as soon as possible.
why are you interested in buying SVD? seeing SVD is in 1108 Coinmarketcap and only has a daily volume of $ 5,
it makes me avoid coins or tokens of this kind !, I suggest selling and turning to projects in the top 1-200 Coinmarketcap because they still have better chances than this!
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
what legal issues happen to savedroid developers ?
I have SVD token, last day I'am bought SVD On exchanger HITBTC.
if this will have an impact on this project I will get out of this zone as soon as possible.

Others know more about this, because I didn't invest or buy and also didn't follow the more recent developments. But there are german articles like this one:

Betrugsvorwürfe: ICO bei Savedroid hat juristische Nachspiele
https://block-builders.de/betrugsvorwuerfe-ico-bei-savedroid-hat-juristische-nachspiele/

Most important points:

- ICO-Investors sue Savedroid to get a refund
- Prosecutors have reopened case because of fraud
- Savedroid sues the lawyer who acted as escrow and who holds back funds (because of irregularities of the ICO)

About the business/success so far:

- "(...) according to 'Bundesanzeiger' they made only 65,42 Euro in 2018."
- Hankir doesn't give any numbers
- "Allegedly Hankir doesn't know how much they made in the ICO"


The article concludes with saying:

"Even if the legal battle might be an open case and it's possible that Savedroid has some chances to get away with a 'blue eye': It seems that the names Hankir and Savedroid are burned in the cryptospace"


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This is how we discussed this project 1.5 years ago, right after their PR-Stunt:

dear investors and victims.
I am also one of many Savedroid investors, and for me there's only one possible excuse:

Savedroid has to offer a refund!

hereby i advise everyone (who like) to apply for a refund.
i have requested my refund at [email protected] and sent it CC to Mr. Hellinger who's Escrow for BTC/ETH.

so who participated with BTC/ETH should send his refund request CC to Mr. Hellinger (www.hellinger.eu)

Anyone who participated by wire transfer or credidcard should send to bank(at)bankfrik.li

Several of their Investors asked for getting refunded on Telegram and it's always the same. Last conversation about it went this way:

Q: When refund?
A: Refund is allowed 14days after you registered.
Q: Why not 14days after marketing fail?
A: I'm sorry but that's one of policy.



In my opinion they've really crossed a line to fraud, because:

1. Their pretended message is based on a lie. They could not have stolen the funds, while Yassin even said in his infamous video that it would have been easy to exit scam with all of the funds. A german journalist of gruenderszene said on youtube that Yassin didn't want to give an answer on the question how much of the money they really could have taken. Surprise... because the answer is: near to nothing or even nothing, especially no Crypto.

2. Besides the fact that their pretended message about regulations is totally trivial, it's actually even worthless in that context. There is no regulation against insanity. Since they didn't think through it and acted deceptive, I highly doubt that the message really was their true intention. If it was, it just proves their superficiality and inability of thinking through stuff.

3. Their real intention behind this PR-Stunt probably was to promote their new business-idea of ICO-advisory, which has nothing to do with the use case they've sold during the ICO. To invent a new business that has nothing to do with the usecase that was promoted to sell out the ICO would be a no-go anyway, even without the self-destructive PR-stunt.

4. Yassin said in a german interview that they don't think their PR-stunt will have bad impact on the future price of their token, otherwise they wouldn't have done it. The latter implies and underlines the pretense of being totally sure about that. That must be another lie, because nobody with an IQ above a cake could believe to be able to make such a prediction. Truth must be that they didn't care about Investors or again: are not able to think through stuff.

5. Investors beg for actions to repair the caused damage, but how should they manage that? It's not possible to get on top of the communication if confronted with several of their own lies and the inconsistency of their pretended message. Anybody seen any public communication of the leadership lately?

Quote: "Yassin has currently not answered our request to interview him and post the results publicly. We will update the situation in case anything changes."
https://medium.com/@BestofICOs/savedroid-the-damage-caused-4de56625aa26

6. They reject all requests of Investors who wish a refund. Of course they don't want to give the money back. It's about $50 mln in Fiat, Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies. And while prices of BTC and alts are rising, Investors of their token are in hostage and can't do anything but wait. #stockholmsyndrome


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If they would have been fair they would not only agree to refund those who would like to get their money back but even would've planned a refund into the "PR-Stunt-Strategy". Afterwards they would've refunded everybody and then announced a new ICO - also as kind of a poll/voting about their PR-strategy.
That would still have turned out to be a stupid move, it still would have been irresponsible. But at least it would have been a little bit better and also give them a better situation to react on accusations.

But they know they've fucked up, so they prefer the corner they've put themselves into while keeping the money, because they know they wouldn't ever get $50 mln again...

The interesting part about this situation really is to subdivide it all into the topics Inconsistency vs. Consistency, what they really care about and show real committance and what they don't care about. What they really cared about and where they have done a great job actually: To market their ICO and get a lot of money.

Everything else shows poor strategy, incompetence, selfish and ruthless action, inconsistency and even deception.

 


sr. member
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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
what legal issues happen to savedroid developers ?
I have SVD token, last day I'am bought SVD On exchanger HITBTC.
if this will have an impact on this project I will get out of this zone as soon as possible.
legendary
Activity: 3038
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
The team is getting legal trouble, I'm still watching this one right now. it looks like that some people are bringing this one to the legal action against savedroid. This project has already raised multi-million dollars and, scammers are hiding behind this project didn't even care with us and people who have joined in the TG group.
I will be more happy to see the scammer behind this crappy project will be arrested.

The development is not going somewhere. This platform is getting stuck at this point.
Investors will be more happy to get their money back again to their wallet and see the creator of savedroid will be jailed.
I have been losing some money on this crap platform and I hope that will come true soon.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)

You are right this project is trouble right after the ICOs because of the unprofessional behavior of the team. It was my worse decision to invest in this project but no serious development happened to build the trust of the investors to take it as serious project that is the reason this is still on the same way where it was year ago.


In my opinion there is not much that is good or right with this project. It starts with the usecase that is very limited and exchanges could do the same as a sideproject within a few weeks, and probably better and cheaper. But, there is a problem with Crypto-Savings anyway, simply because it's so volatile. And who would use it? Only those who don't know much about Crypto and want it very convenient, those who don't want to do it right actually.

In that sense... Even if the team would be good and without the PR-Stunt and without the lies about Top5-Exchange (anyone remembers?), I find it hard to believe that such a usecase would get a lot of traction.
 

legendary
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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)

You are right this project is trouble right after the ICOs because of the unprofessional behavior of the team. It was my worse decision to invest in this project but no serious development happened to build the trust of the investors to take it as serious project that is the reason this is still on the same way where it was year ago.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
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