Topic: [ANN][ICOO] ICO OpenLedger - THE OFFICIAL ICO PRE-LAUNCH TOKEN - page 11. (Read 39267 times)

Why 2 threads? (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/icoo-pre-ann-the-official-crowdfunding-token-1474990)

  The story there is that Open Ledger is NOT just a market, Open Ledger is a Bitshares Wallet, it means that all the trades (and trades proposals, cancelled trades...) are written in the bitshares blockchain. Is true, right now trading volumes are low, but those trading volumes are all real. No scam is possible.

And volume trend in OL is good. Very good. Icoo service will boost greatly OL and Bitshares adoption

thanks.

i understand the principle of scarcity in markets, and there's always the temptation to manipulate supply.

Open Ledger seems to have such low trading volumes. what's the story there?

  In the first hour of trading on Poloniex we saw an incredible amount of trading at stellar prices, but nobody of the lisk holder was able to sell their lisk. The tokens were "blocked". I know because I did some Lisk in ICO.
 The same strange thing do happen whit Bitcrystals listing last year, again I know, because I did the BCY ICO.


 Why?

 Because early trades are FAKE and SCAM Trades always made at FAKE and SCAM high price from Scamoniex.

 The purpose is to attract some not experinced traders, to buy the new coin (in this case LISK) at an insane high price in the first hours. Because in the very first hour of trading was always possible to BUY LISK on Poloniex.
  
  Real Lisk?
  No FAKE Lisk, and then Poloniex do create as much as FAKE LISK nedeed to slash the price down, and then, magicaly, all the real LISK holders were enable to trade their own, selling then to.... POLONIEX, so POLONIEX do cover their short position whit real lisk.

Do you understand the scam?

Ok all this mess it will be impossible whit ICOO and Open Ledger (bitshares) , that's why I know that ICOO will be a massive success.

i don't know about "scam", but is it true that Polo is holding 5,000,000 Lisk from the ICO?

sorry, but what "scam" of poloniex are you talking about?

Nahh,not intrested

any bounty for join to twitter or facebook? or transalting bounty
thanks!

Whit ICOO the LISK scam on Poloniex was not possibile.

When someone invest in a new ICO throgh the ICOO service have the power to trade the new token immediately or in same cases just after the closing of the ICO period. (when the number of tokens issued is not determined)

The mega scam set up on Poloniex (oe Scamoniex?) is not possible on Open Ledger, all the trades, orders, owners are in the bitshares blockchain.

ICOO will profit from the service and burn 60% of the net proceed every month. This is the value proposition of ICOO

Thank you sir,

Yes, I imagine if any of these people had 5 minutes to talk to me in real life, they would realize I would probably buy them a beer and shoot the shit about crypto just like any of their other friends, but it is too easy to resort to ad hominem attacks when you don't have to see the person's face in anguish as you ruin their career.  My reputation has been irreparably damaged by FUD and trolls, and it is just something I will have to deal with, and unfortunately, people will sit on the sidelines and let the trolls dictate discourse. 

What is crazy to me, is that you can easily find information about me on the internet, as my face has been on over 400 restaurant walls in North America since 2010.

If you are near a "Moe's Southwest Grill", you can go in and my face is on ALL of the restaurant's walls. 

My name/face is LITERALLY on the walls of every Moe's restaurant, but these trolls will make you think I am hiding in the shadows.

If you want to verify yourself, just go to a Moe's next time you see one, and look on the wall.


Like I said, these trolls will make you think that "I" am somewhere hiding in the shadows, when you can see my face in almost every airport in US where there is a Moe's.

Anyways, this is the reality of what happens when people listen to FUD without doing research.

Again, why I am asserting that Ronny is not only working extremely hard on this, the only "mess" has come from people who have been shown to be attacking projects to steal them.  ICO countdown's third post on Bitcointalk was to "bitland", and in the mean time, they attack ICOO, then come out with project that copies it days later.

Coincidence?

Maybe...


I will just let the people be the jury.


Chris

thanks.

it's the unfortunate reality of forum discourse. people far too often write things that they would never dream of saying to the person's face. that's something we all need to reflect on from time to time. good luck with Bitland and its success.

This is not true whatsoever.  The only reason I left the team is because ICOcountdown was scamming tokens and holding teams' reputations hostage, as you will see in this thread.

I stepped off the ICOO project to protect it from the personal attacks I was receiving, and because I felt that the project success was more important than "me" getting recognition for the project.  Ronny works pretty much seven days a week on this, and as far as the affair being "messy", it is purely because of the FUD and Trolls.  This project has been in the works for months, and is just NOW getting rolled out because Ronny was working so much to make sure the launch went smoothly. 

This project is awesome, and Denmark is set to become the haven for blockchain based start-up companies.  This is what people are starting to realize, and see the potential in the project.  However, don't let the FUD and trolls lead conversation, as that would be a mistake.

As I said, the "messiness" came from people who were trying to use "me" to attack the project, and so I stepped down because the project is bigger than me.


Chris

is Ronny sticking to the original ICO schedule? it feels like it needs to be wound back to day 1 because so far it's been a bit of a messy affair. people leaving the team, a lack of transparency, no answers to questions about the incorporated entity making the offer, et.c., et.c..

i expect better from the Kingdom of Denmark. i have coin to invest in good projects. is this a good project? it's difficult to answer that question at the moment.

so are you going to share revenue via dividends now?

We are working on getting this done!

Do you have a genesis adress? So an adress where we can see all raised funds?

The background is that we want to list it in Cyber.Fund Radar and therefore need a bit of transparency.

Pretty sure you can be a racist ass even if you are brown.

This article kind of support the ideas and potential of offering ICO's for immediate trading prelaunch.

http://venturebeat.com/2016/05/15/blockchain-startups-make-up-20-of-largest-crowdfunding-projects/

and the fees connected to subscribing on ICOO website subdomain with any added ICO name to be offered on OL prelaunch, with whatever amount you may wish for will will be an added value to the amount end of month used for buyback of ICOO and then burned.

The first example of prelaunch on OpenLedger was LISK with its launch date on May 24, here the support was based on one provider of LISK based on collateral in the way of BTC, and full validation as well as agreement for this whole process.

The second example was digixDAO - DGD, where CCEDK went ahead and bought into the digixDAO crowdsale and afterwards offered it prelaunch on OL at 10x the initial purchase price and managed to sell some 500 units this way. The idea was mainly to show the possibility and not so much to create big sales as I have some personal belief in DGD, so why would I want to sell low kind of idea.

The third example is the present one with DAO, where tokens at the value of more than 100 000 USD has been added as liquidity pro bono so to speak, with only reason to add liquidity and then allow the holders to start trading and to enjoy the early buy-in option for best possible outcome whether selling, buying or keeping the supplies untill launch of DAO token.

All the examples allow potentially a subscriber to buy into the ICO prelaunch and then make use of the many(thousands already although some are still not liquid) markets on OpenLedger to BUY, SELL, TRADE, SWAP, SHORT, LONG ETC.

The ICOO investors will benefit from the increasing interest from users to take part in this kind of offering, and is only one way of more for the holders to see added revenue streams in future.

Well I see you did it with RISE when they didn't pay you 4.5 btc for listing their project, you did post something to ruin their plans. and now
this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warning-icocountdowncom-scam-extortion-scheme-1480636  your site is useless so forget it if they don't want to list theirs.

there are far better than yours like https://cyber.fund/radar

Gatecoin, Bter, Mintpal, Cryptsy, Gox, Shapeshift and others ----  Centralized exchanges that have been hacked causing people to lose millions. Openledger is the first and only Decentralized exchange that practically eliminates all possibility of this.  The community should get behind that project so that it will raise the bar for all other exchanges. Working towards a fully decentralized exchange with shared order books is the ultimate.

So far Boesing/Openledger is light years ahead of everybody else. His shortcoming is that he believes that everybody in the community is a genius like him and that they will grasp what he is doing. But they are not and they dont.

If you dont see the practicality and need for a decentralized exchange like Openledger, you missed the entire point of bitcoin / the decentralize movement.