Topic: [ANN][KARM] Karma / ₭ / X11 - page 133. (Read 583254 times)

So there's no assets then?

How ironic -- that is the same thing I asked of you :-)

If you REALLY want legal wording then YOU should hire a lawyer

I was excited to see a potential method for crowd-sourced equity versus looking into a Small Company Offering Registration (SCOR)

You have failed to produce ANY legal briefing or provide some shred of documentation that you've had a law firm review your offering.

At least I paid to have a lawyer render an opinion and I can sure as hell tell you that I trust his advice over anything I've read here.

-dvd

Funny.. when W. Bush was in office I didn't like him at all. He was a joke.

Then after the new President was elected I actually missed him.

I hope the next leader or team will be much better than we have had in the past and I am not missed.

Perhaps I will take up painting myself in the shower lol

You lost me...

Have I made money? Of course I have. Have I lost money on here? Sure. That's inconsequential to me. It's part of being an investor in businesses. My argument has nothing to do with winning or losing an investment (all of that is what we call "risk" and is something I evaluate prior to getting involved). In fact, I'm still holding on to my coins. If they take to 1 Litoshi, sobeit. Again, this was the risk I endured when I got involved long ago. Seriously, don't even bring up how much people have invested -- investments are a risk for a reason. Anyone that invests in something should do so under the pretense that they are going to lose 100% of the money; otherwise you're going to hurt yourself in the long run. This has nothing to do with money lost; it's due to the excuses for dropping a business. I'd be just as pissed off if I invested in Microsoft and then Bill Gates turned around and said "I talked to a couple businesses and they laughed at my idea so I'm closing shop. Sorry about your lost money but I can't handle people not being nice to me so I need to move on." Going into business and losing it is COMPLETELY different from going into business and flat out giving up for ridiculous reasons.

His idea was GREAT. The problem is he won't follow through with it. He's not only screwing over his holders/investors but himself as well. It's a bit depressing to see someone go into such a self-destructive phase like that. Yet, for whatever reason, it's all too common. And it's something that is more than possible to be overcome; he simply doesn't have the desire to do so.

I see what you mean about the President thing. I mean George W Bush only had an approval rating of 25% in October of 2008 and he resigned from office because he didn't like it. I'm sorry I missed that.

I won't step up and take over the LLC because I simply don't have the time.

Heaven forbid anyone should go to France. It's impossible!

Please, let's finish these kinds of conversations and move on to something more productive.

How are you going to help Karma?

I'm well of that. I probably have much more experience than you realize.

The President *would* step down, however, if 90%+ of his constituents didn't support him.

yes, of course people say negative things about businesses. I am well aware of that, too. However, the risk I am talking about is LEGAL risk. Taking risks without support just doesn't add up for me. It is not worth it.

If it adds up for you, would you like to be the responsible person for the LLC?

Thank you for your kind words. They are truly appreciated.

In a few months no one will remember this, or care, and Karma will be higher than it ever has been because of the good work that the new team will do. If for nothing else, because Karma has such a great name.

Now is actually a good time to be buying Karma, not selling.

If anyone is interested in the whitepaper for the sidechain please let me know.

We may not have Hiro, but hopefully Karma will find a competent dev or two who can do the sidechain.

Like I said, I still have my Karma. I know stuff like this blows over. I feel like Batman, taking the fall for something that I didn't do to be the "hero" that Karma needs, not that it wants (or whatever the hell the saying is) and only 1 other guy understands it.

I seriously hope you're just joking right now...

man crypto is so full of pussys...

when you have a disagreement with your real life colleqeus you resign from your job as well? rather then trying too solve this in a proffesional manner?

Excuse me for wrong spelling

common calm down. I will be sad when he leaves.

Yeah...yeah... just like you were flying to france or something for the Lill deal. Very believable under current circumstances... Just do us a favor, sell of your coins and stop pretending to support Karma while ****ing people from the behind. I will be very happy if you leave this coin and community. Thanks for your services, no more is needed..

Man the fuck up and quit crying. Seriously. If you're going to be a leader, you're GOING to have people pissed off at you. Either get over it or you'll never be a true leader. Like I said, the President of the US doesn't step down because some strangers are saying mean things to him; that'd be asinine.

The same thing goes with the business. People are GOING to say negative things. People are GOING to make threats. If you aren't getting these things, your business has little to no value.

The things you're bitching about are the same things that mark success. What you're doing is literally saying "fuck being successful; I can't handle it." And when that's the case, why lead a project in the first place?

Listen to the good. Ignore the bad. Rock this shit. Be a true fucking leader and quit making up excuses.

kos you have more supporters than you think. Personally, I freaked out for a second when I saw coins moving without explanation. However, man you got more belivers in here than the dalai lama has. ach I am sorry and sad how everything went....

We should find alternative person to replace Hiro who will review the whitepaper and implement sidechain ASAP, IMHO.

FAQ: I thought you were leaving! Why are you still here?

A: I suppose you expect me to disappear, but I actually care about Karma (obvious to those who know how much time, effort, and expense I've put into it). I want a smooth transition to the people/team that will take Karma to the next level. It need not be someone I like personally, it need only be someone that you want to lead you.

All Karma-related services, websites, and trademarks will be provided, as per my post: http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2fvv2f/new_karma_team_needed/

I would have been happy to stay, but not with all but 2 people attacking and insulting me. (And thank you for being one of those people who has spoken up for me)

I am (was) literally on my way to both Vietnam and the Philippines in order to build a base there for Karma.

No longer. It's not worth it.

Can you identify the assets you're referring to?

Like I have already said... a "severe warning" would cause people to sell.

Then instead of the above drivel we'd have other kinds of people complaining that it wasn't fair to them because they were not able to sell their coins.

The scenario which I decided was fair to everyone (including myself) was:

1) refund coins
2) announce Karmashares is closing

If #2 was done first or even hinted at (i.e., "might be closing") there would be even more complaints.

Although people are still complaining (and insulting, which is just plain wrong) can anyone pose a reasonable argument for why it was an unethical way to do it?

What was done was the best solution and fair to all, including myself. If anyone doesn't agree please present a rational argument for your alternative scenario.

Kos, there is no drama with closing the llc. All the reasonable people here will and are understanding this. We can always work out alternative without any legal consequences to you. Call it PoC or whatever you want. Please don't end up like Karmacoingood. No offense from any troll can match such failure. Take a sleep and come back fresh. The people that matters are mad at you not because you have closed some llc or some site. They are sad because you want to leave. Sad. You surely know what is to be sad. Don't you all talk about investors, cause they are believers. And they are really sad now. Solution can always be found. Maybe not as fast as we want, but it is always possible.
Good Karma to all of you and please stop to be rude to each other. We won't make progress like this. It is really close to mind.