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sr. member
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September 09, 2014, 06:09:11 AM

10) The more I am insulted and threatened publicly and privately the less I want to be involved with the current Karma community. I am/was doing this voluntarily. Without support, there's not much I can/want to do.


Great!! Common fellow Karmanians lets just insult and threaten this immature, emotional prick out of this coin. Lol, he was making big promises at the start of LLC 10x quantum period, which resulted in many people like me buying millions of coins with more than half of my money. He broke his promises and now chickening out because some body personally insulted him....such a whining piece of ***T.... And now the ****ing *****r ****er want to continue with this coin after essentially killing.... Get the hell out you immature  lying piece of ***T!!, nobody want you working in this coin any more...  Angry

The most possible explanation is that he got an offer with Lill that he can't refuse... now that he don't want lill to be tied with Karmashares, he  suddenly
become dramatic with bitchy excuses  so he can get rid of the link with Karmashares and Lill...

I think that the only really questionable thing Kosmost did until now was to end Karmashares without a any warnings.
That was not OK at all!

He could have said:
"I'm pissed! This is not working anymore! I will close Karmashares in 1 week if you do not help me with this or that!"

That would be OK.
But closing without a warning... Common... Really?!
sr. member
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September 09, 2014, 06:05:14 AM
a. Why do you love KARMA?
b. In the range of 1-10, 10 being in the top TOP richest KARMA holder. What number would you be??
c. What are you GOOD at, not necessarily very good, but something you do well. WHAT IS IT?
d. Do you want to stay and help KARMA and the community?? Reply with a yes or no.

a. The idea of a coin dedicated to doing good is very appealing. Crypto appears to bring out the worst in people and Karma was one of the few places where it didn't seem to be as bad - util now. I've met interesting people here and enjoyed my discussions with the community and devteam. I hope to continue that, despite everything that's happened.
b. 5
c. I am a pretty decent web developer
d. Yes

BTW, I am not interested in a new coin. These events have nothing to do with the coin Karma itself, it is purely human failure. No new coin spawning from this community would IMO have an advantage over just salvaging Karma itself.

Concerning the events, I had a very hard time sleeping last night. I still do not have a clear picture what happened as I missed most of the past 2-3 weeks, but signs of kosmost's skin wearing thin were coming through before that. He was still in large parts responsible for all the good things that happened to Karma since march, and for that we owe him thanks. And despite all the things that are obviously not cool about the way the past 24 hours played out, it seems pretty clear this was not a scam. All Karmashares funds were (or are being) returned and for the most part people can't even claim huge losses on those coins, as Karma price is in similar regions compared to when the LLC was set up (higher in LTC actually, but that has lost worth). Karma is in no worse shape than when kosmost and team took over, although it is much worse off compared to 2 months ago. So thanks for nothing I guess...

I enjoyed working with you and I'm grateful that I can continue doing it   Cheesy
hero member
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September 09, 2014, 06:02:07 AM

10) The more I am insulted and threatened publicly and privately the less I want to be involved with the current Karma community. I am/was doing this voluntarily. Without support, there's not much I can/want to do.


Great!! Common fellow Karmanians lets just insult and threaten this immature, emotional prick out of this coin. Lol, he was making big promises at the start of LLC 10x quantum period, which resulted in many people like me buying millions of coins with more than half of my money. He broke his promises and now chickening out because some body personally insulted him....such a whining piece of ***T.... And now the ****ing *****r ****er want to continue with this coin after essentially killing it.... Get the hell out you immature  lying piece of ***T!!, nobody want you working in this coin any more...  Angry

The most possible explanation is that he got an offer with Lill that he can't refuse... now that he don't want lill to be tied with Karmashares, he  suddenly
become dramatic with bitchy excuses  so he can get rid of the link with Karmashares and Lill...
hero member
Activity: 559
Merit: 500
September 09, 2014, 06:00:29 AM
a. Why do you love KARMA?
b. In the range of 1-10, 10 being in the top TOP richest KARMA holder. What number would you be??
c. What are you GOOD at, not necessarily very good, but something you do well. WHAT IS IT?
d. Do you want to stay and help KARMA and the community?? Reply with a yes or no.

a. The idea of a coin dedicated to doing good is very appealing. Crypto appears to bring out the worst in people and Karma was one of the few places where it didn't seem to be as bad - util now. I've met interesting people here and enjoyed my discussions with the community and devteam. I hope to continue that, despite everything that's happened.
b. 5
c. I am a pretty decent web developer
d. Yes

BTW, I am not interested in a new coin. These events have nothing to do with the coin Karma itself, it is purely human failure. No new coin spawning from this community would IMO have an advantage over just salvaging Karma itself.

Concerning the events, I had a very hard time sleeping last night. I still do not have a clear picture what happened as I missed most of the past 2-3 weeks, but signs of kosmost's skin wearing thin were coming through before that. He was still in large parts responsible for all the good things that happened to Karma since march, and for that we owe him thanks. And despite all the things that are obviously not cool about the way the past 24 hours played out, it seems pretty clear this was not a scam. All Karmashares funds were (or are being) returned and for the most part people can't even claim huge losses on those coins, as Karma price is in similar regions compared to when the LLC was set up (higher in LTC actually, but that has lost worth). Karma is in no worse shape than when kosmost and team took over, although it is much worse off compared to 2 months ago. So thanks for nothing I guess...
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September 09, 2014, 05:28:17 AM
Scammer scenario in crypto is always the same.

Scam examples similar from past:
1)DBL/CENT/many other coins developed by same dev (shakezula). Big promises, than dump on believers and dev disappeared with cool story about how he will spend next 2 years in submarine.
2)42 coin and many others developed by hendo420, big story, lot of lies and than dev disappeared with a nice story about being sick of price drop
3)Hirocoin had same dev as KARM wallet had. Hirocoin dev disappeared, guess who is developing KARM wallet now!
4) KARM scenario big promises, multi million $$$ for free thrown into crypto to "believers"...lol.. such a joke. Than big dump on those "believers" and rejection to prove anything. There was never ever any single proof. He rejected to show scanned document. He can show at least boarding tickets to airplane, since he claimed he traveled to France to discuss the deal. Hotel ticked bill from France, anything. Nope nothing, just shit talk about creating value. Now he destroyed 100% of Karm value in a single hour. Kosmost you are the scammer here and you will be unless you proof you are not. 100% of your acts show you are liar and bad person. Karma will return it to you back!

I am not sure, if all those scams are done by same group of people or it is such a good pattern so new scammers repeat it again and again. But this was best organized crypto scam I ever seen. This is the history:D







Well, anthony is from france if all my googling is right, so it was a pretty good alibi if he would have proved he was in france Wink

+1 socoban, you could have saved my money only if i wasnt blind,

I believed in karma, making money in a fair way AND helping others? Must have been the greatest plan ever and because all the people here have good hearts we all trusted it. Now 1000000% effort is needed to get karma back on tracks or to create a new coin, but all the people hurt by Karma want this to succeed.

hero member
Activity: 658
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September 09, 2014, 05:24:37 AM
Scammer scenario in crypto is always the same.

Scam examples similar from past:
1)DBL/CENT/many other coins developed by same dev (shakezula). Big promises, than dump on believers and dev disappeared with cool story about how he will spend next 2 years in submarine.
2)42 coin and many others developed by hendo420, big story, lot of lies and than dev disappeared with a nice story about being sick of price drop
3)Hirocoin had same dev as KARM wallet had. Hirocoin dev disappeared, guess who is developing KARM wallet now!
4) KARM scenario big promises, multi million $$$ for free thrown into crypto to "believers"...lol.. such a joke. Than big dump on those "believers" and rejection to prove anything. There was never ever any single proof. He rejected to show scanned document. He can show at least boarding tickets to airplane, since he claimed he traveled to France to discuss the deal. Hotel ticked bill from France, anything. Nope nothing, just shit talk about creating value. Now he destroyed 100% of Karm value in a single hour. Kosmost you are the scammer here and you will be unless you proof you are not. 100% of your acts show you are liar and bad person. Karma will return it to you back!

I am not sure, if all those scams are done by same group of people or it is such a good pattern so new scammers repeat it again and again. But this was best organized crypto scam I ever seen. This is the history:D







+1
sr. member
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September 09, 2014, 05:22:13 AM
Scammer scenario in crypto is always the same.

Scam examples similar from past:
1)DBL/CENT/many other coins developed by same dev (shakezula). Big promises, than dump on believers and dev disappeared with cool story about how he will spend next 2 years in submarine.
2)42 coin and many others developed by hendo420, big story, lot of lies and than dev disappeared with a nice story about being sick of price drop
3)Hirocoin had same dev as KARM wallet had. Hirocoin dev disappeared, guess who is developing KARM wallet now!
4) KARM scenario big promises, multi million $$$ for free thrown into crypto to "believers"...lol.. such a joke. Than big dump on those "believers" and rejection to prove anything. There was never ever any single proof. He rejected to show scanned document. He can show at least boarding tickets to airplane, since he claimed he traveled to France to discuss the deal. Hotel ticked bill from France, anything. Nope nothing, just shit talk about creating value. Now he destroyed 100% of Karm value in a single hour. Kosmost you are the scammer here and you will be unless you proof you are not. 100% of your acts show you are liar and bad person. Karma will return it to you back!

I am not sure, if all those scams are done by same group of people or it is such a good pattern so new scammers repeat it again and again. But this was best organized crypto scam I ever seen. This is the history:D





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September 09, 2014, 05:17:15 AM
East, I have almost no interest in Karma now. As I told you several days ago, I sold my karmashares wallet and started to sell my coins. Now I have very small amount (and I really mean small) just to keep portfolio. I can send them all for funding, but first we should have technical ownership of Karma. So this is what I propose:
If kosmost agree, I will step up and take all the responsibilities for Karma the coin and take the heat away from him and the team, cause you all don't deserve to be abused. Don't worrie. I can manage with angry people. They will surely understand what is anger if they provoke me. I am not a 8 years old. I want no site to be shut down. Especially Karmacoin.me. lill is kosmost's baby and he can decide best what to do with it. I can be transition leader, but I will not develop for sure. I can do it, but I refuse to do it as always. When we have technical ownership, we will decide what to do, but my personnal advise is to stick to the technical nature of Karma. It is also not true that nobody wanted the responsibility for the llc. I did and nobody paid attention. You can still see my post in karmashares forum.

Please reply to this post, and update us. http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/2fvv2f/new_karma_team_needed/
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September 09, 2014, 05:14:05 AM

I have been here since march, but yeah, disregard that.
I will not be working in any team if kosmost is a member of the team, he has devalued me personally.

If you have noticed too, that name is not and will not be on that list and this is an attempt too to avoid him using other nick and entering leadership again.
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
September 09, 2014, 05:12:50 AM
People! Hold your KARMA and do not sell on the cheap!
Let's give some time to come to the surface to take air. Now is the time to prove that we are a team and work together well. Let a crew to show the Captain that we are not mice and will leave the last ship.
Let's all run GPU's and to raise network hashrate. At present, it is less than 1 GH/s, which is a sign of our weakness.
Let's not be traitors to resurrect again KARMA!

+ 9000

Keep mining guys.
This coin can only go up and right now it is super easy to mine (-> easy coins!).

We will lead this ship, and with our skills and good will we find a much better place to land the the one we are ate right now  Cool
sr. member
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September 09, 2014, 05:11:51 AM
East, I have almost no interest in Karma now. As I told you several days ago, I sold my karmashares wallet and started to sell my coins. Now I have very small amount (and I really mean small) just to keep portfolio. I can send them all for funding, but first we should have technical ownership of Karma. So this is what I propose:
If kosmost agree, I will step up and take all the responsibilities for Karma the coin and take the heat away from him and the team, cause you all don't deserve to be abused. Don't worrie. I can manage with angry people. They will surely understand what is anger if they provoke me. I am not a 8 years old. I want no site to be shut down. Especially Karmacoin.me. lill is kosmost's baby and he can decide best what to do with it. I can be transition leader, but I will not develop for sure. I can do it, but I refuse to do it as always. When we have technical ownership, we will decide what to do, but my personnal advise is to stick to the technical nature of Karma. It is also not true that nobody wanted the responsibility for the llc. I did and nobody paid attention. You can still see my post in karmashares forum.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 09, 2014, 05:08:19 AM

Hi,

Yes, 0.3 BTC is the contribution I currently ask for old/large blockchain after recent bitcoin price drop.

No, that is not my address. From your thread I guess it was an address out forward to receive them, but that is not mine.

All explorers come with the following API: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/api.dws
Extra APIs are added regularly, but there is not set roadmap.
I do not offer services for the other points.


This is the dev that made the explorer with the richlist.

I will now send 0.0075 BTC as my share for that payment he is asking...

Now please see the content of this address : 12RVXoccgLy8o4GyeUULRmYhaaEL2emvQD - BTC Donation address for Karma Devs Payment

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September 09, 2014, 05:00:36 AM
TO WEED OUT THOSE WHO HAVE ILL INTENTIONS IN TRYING TO GET INSIDE OUR COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP I PROPOSE THE SYSTEM BELOW.


Our community should now be a brotherhood.

The people chosen to be group coordinators and speakers should have been in good standing within the community for the last 1 month.

Those speakers/coordinators will then choose their assistants that will speak in his stead in his absence and incapacity. This is needed so that we can ensure the community activity will go on smoothly despite the sudden absence of a key person.

These persons will then nominate more group leaders according to their capacity.

No one should be admitted into the leading groups without being nominated by the well known member first. And every application will be denied if someone from the established leading group refuse. It means a person will only lead the community if approved by all the leading coordinators. (This will avoid being infiltrated by posers and nickname changers)

Newbies are welcome to the community. But they should not be allowed to hold a delicate position.



Here are the people I would trust to be speakers for different community groups in no particular order.

cryptowho
ryannguyen18
p4r4m0unt
ptman
socoban
Alphi
pdogg
jasondoge
4_real
Chargin
learminer
karmakaguy
javijavier
roached
warfwarf
paraC
delaforetnoire

This is not a nomination, i would just like to point out the nicks that we are sure to be with us from long time ago.

Speakers/group leaders positions should be filled by >willingness+capacity> invitation by a trusted member>  approval by the community

Once, speakers are in place they will be the one to invite other people to hold different functions. This will lessen the time needed to act on matters that need decision on.

I have been here since march, but yeah, disregard that.
I will not be working in any team if kosmost is a member of the team, he has devalued me personally.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 09, 2014, 04:53:10 AM
TO WEED OUT THOSE WHO HAVE ILL INTENTIONS IN TRYING TO GET INSIDE OUR COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP I PROPOSE THE SYSTEM BELOW.


Our community should now be a brotherhood.

The people chosen to be group coordinators and speakers should have been in good standing within the community for the last 1 month.

Those speakers/coordinators will then choose their assistants that will speak in his stead in his absence and incapacity. This is needed so that we can ensure the community activity will go on smoothly despite the sudden absence of a key person.

These persons will then nominate more group leaders according to their capacity.

No one should be admitted into the leading groups without being nominated by the well known member first. And every application will be denied if someone from the established leading group refuse. It means a person will only lead the community if approved by all the leading coordinators. (This will avoid being infiltrated by posers and nickname changers)

Newbies are welcome to the community. But they should not be allowed to hold a delicate position.



Here are the people I would trust to be speakers for different community groups in no particular order.

cryptowho
ryannguyen18
p4r4m0unt
ptman
socoban
Alphi
pdogg
jasondoge
4_real
Chargin
learminer
karmakaguy
javijavier
roached
warfwarf
paraC
delaforetnoire
Bierworst

This is not a nomination ( edit: and sorry if I have not listed you this is not meant to be exhaustive), i would just like to point out the nicks that we are sure to be with us from long time ago.

Speakers/group leaders positions should be filled by >willingness+capacity> invitation by a trusted member>  approval by the community

Once, speakers are in place they will be the one to invite other people to hold different functions. This will lessen the time needed to act on matters that need decision on.
sr. member
Activity: 425
Merit: 250
September 09, 2014, 04:52:57 AM
People! Hold your KARMA and do not sell on the cheap!
Let's give some time to come to the surface to take air. Now is the time to prove that we are a team and work together well. Let a crew to show the Captain that we are not mice and will leave the last ship.
Let's all run GPU's and to raise network hashrate. At present, it is less than 1 GH/s, which is a sign of our weakness.
Let's not be traitors to resurrect again KARMA!
sr. member
Activity: 348
Merit: 250
September 09, 2014, 04:34:26 AM

Everyone should send a share amount of their Karma holdings, my suggestion is at least 10%. NO SINGLE PERSON SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE THEM. So the best method can be some kind of ESCROW service. 10% of the existing coin is about 6Billion. This will be used for what should have been the function of the LLC funding before.



Wow... so you want to keep this scam going. Tie up as many coins as you can while you exit. Nice strategy.

Do you want to put the money we need to move forward?
Thank you...
newbie
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September 09, 2014, 04:31:34 AM

Everyone should send a share amount of their Karma holdings, my suggestion is at least 10%. NO SINGLE PERSON SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE THEM. So the best method can be some kind of ESCROW service. 10% of the existing coin is about 6Billion. This will be used for what should have been the function of the LLC funding before.



Wow... so you want to keep this scam going. Tie up as many coins as you can while you exit. Nice strategy.

Unfair that to be honest. You've dumped, that's fair enough but don't try and smear a dedicated member of the community with no evidence.

Evidence and common sense aren't mutually exclusive. I want to protect others from yet another affront to their wallets.
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
September 09, 2014, 04:29:27 AM

Everyone should send a share amount of their Karma holdings, my suggestion is at least 10%. NO SINGLE PERSON SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE THEM. So the best method can be some kind of ESCROW service. 10% of the existing coin is about 6Billion. This will be used for what should have been the function of the LLC funding before.



Wow... so you want to keep this scam going. Tie up as many coins as you can while you exit. Nice strategy.

Unfair that to be honest. You've dumped, that's fair enough but don't try and smear a dedicated member of the community with no evidence.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
September 09, 2014, 04:15:18 AM

Everyone should send a share amount of their Karma holdings, my suggestion is at least 10%. NO SINGLE PERSON SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE THEM. So the best method can be some kind of ESCROW service. 10% of the existing coin is about 6Billion. This will be used for what should have been the function of the LLC funding before.



Wow... so you want to keep this scam going. Tie up as many coins as you can while you exit. Nice strategy.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
September 09, 2014, 04:12:34 AM
TO WEED OUT THOSE WHO HAVE ILL INTENTIONS IN TRYING TO GET INSIDE OUR COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP I PROPOSE THE SYSTEM BELOW.


Our community should now be a brotherhood.

The people chosen to be group coordinators and speakers should have been in good standing within the community for the last 1 month.

Those speakers/coordinators will then choose their assistants that will speak in his stead in his absence and incapacity. This is needed so that we can ensure the community activity will go on smoothly despite the sudden absence of a key person.

These persons will then nominate more group leaders according to their capacity.

No one should be admitted into the leading groups without being nominated by the well known member first. And every application will be denied if someone from the established leading group refuse. It means a person will only lead the community if approved by all the leading coordinators. (This will avoid being infiltrated by posers and nickname changers)

Newbies are welcome to the community. But they should not be allowed to hold a delicate position.

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