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June 15, 2017, 01:00:13 AM


by the way, how many individual users swapped their coins for KTN? You mentioned 9,000 a few times but there are only 228 incoming transactions https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/address.dws?1024695.htm

from what I have seen, most of those transactions came from the largest wallet Karma has (which is one of the STOLEN exchange wallets). And the majority of KTN tokens are owned by the person who stole the exchange wallet. From what it looks like, greater than 90% of KTN.

How many different people are there invested in KTN? (Something to consider if a KTN swap is offered)

How do you arrive with those words? How will you make me trust you if this early on the discussion you are using such methods?

"what greater than 90% of KTN held by the stolen KARMA wallet holder" are you saying??


(source: https://xchain.io/asset/KARMATOKEN, June 15, 2017)


Even the KTN main wallet don't have 90%. The highest KTN aside from the main wallet is also visible. Why kosmost, why do you say that?


The first address is pretty high, but it's not a wallet. It's just a single address from a wallet. It just means the user had 11 billion coins stored at that address in the blockchain, but probably has many addresses.

For example, if the user sent you 20 billion coins but only had 11 billion at one address and the rest spread out between hundreds of other addresses (with smaller values) then it would show up as 1 transaction on the blockchain but hundreds of wallet addresses. So in counterparty it would appear to be hundreds of people when it's not actually.

I think that would mean there was one user on the exchange who had lost 11 billion coins in their account, though I am not sure.

Nice interface. How do you feel with the Counterparty platform? Do you like it?
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June 15, 2017, 12:59:38 AM
It worked, I have 5 connections Grin

As far as the purposed coin swap, will the current Karmacoin become "KarmaCoin classic" or will it be totally disbanded?

Thanks for the swift Replys!
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June 15, 2017, 12:53:54 AM


by the way, how many individual users swapped their coins for KTN? You mentioned 9,000 a few times but there are only 228 incoming transactions https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/address.dws?1024695.htm

from what I have seen, most of those transactions came from the largest wallet Karma has (which is one of the STOLEN exchange wallets). And the majority of KTN tokens are owned by the person who stole the exchange wallet. From what it looks like, greater than 90% of KTN.

How many different people are there invested in KTN? (Something to consider if a KTN swap is offered)

How do you arrive with those words? How will you make me trust you if this early on the discussion you are using such methods?

"what greater than 90% of KTN held by the stolen KARMA wallet holder" are you saying??


(source: https://xchain.io/asset/KARMATOKEN, June 15, 2017)


Even the KTN main wallet don't have 90%. The highest KTN aside from the main wallet is also visible. Why kosmost, why do you say that?




hero member
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June 15, 2017, 12:43:33 AM


by the way, how many individual users swapped their coins for KTN? You mentioned 9,000 a few times but there are only 228 incoming transactions https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/address.dws?1024695.htm

from what I have seen, most of those transactions came from the largest wallet Karma has (which is one of the STOLEN exchange wallets). And the majority of KTN tokens are owned by the person who stole the exchange wallet. From what it looks like, greater than 90% of KTN.

How many different people are there invested in KTN? (Something to consider if a KTN swap is offered)

kosmost, I told you the number of KTN holders. :9000+
About being stolen or not it is up to the KARMA holder.

About KTN swapping to your planned/proposed coin KTN holders will have to voluntarily decide on that. It's their coins.
I don't even see consensus here.

*IF, you plan to launch a coin and not accept the swaps of KARMA X11 and KTN holders, WHAT DO THESE COMMUNITIES have to do with you?
*IF, you plan to launch many coins and not unify the KARMA communities, it will mean you are adding to the already confusing state of things, why should you bother convincing the people here?
*IF you plan to launch a totally different coin in name and platform, why do you still act as though you lead KARMA?


Sorry, but how do 9,000 separate people send Karma for KTN when there are only 228 transactions (and most of those came from a single stolen wallet)?

Maybe it's my low IQ or dyslexia but I can't seem to figure it out. Can you explain it more simply?
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June 15, 2017, 12:41:44 AM
All these new people coming to the thread, and the person now in charge of the thread hasn't bothered to update the OP in .... a very long time.

Kinda sad for Karma. Actually, it's embarrassing.



Hopefully, the future will be brighter.
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June 15, 2017, 12:40:28 AM


by the way, how many individual users swapped their coins for KTN? You mentioned 9,000 a few times but there are only 228 incoming transactions https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/address.dws?1024695.htm

from what I have seen, most of those transactions came from the largest wallet Karma has (which is one of the STOLEN exchange wallets). And the majority of KTN tokens are owned by the person who stole the exchange wallet. From what it looks like, greater than 90% of KTN.

How many different people are there invested in KTN? (Something to consider if a KTN swap is offered)

kosmost, I told you the number of KTN holders. :9000+
About being stolen or not it is up to the KARMA holder.

About KTN swapping to your planned/proposed coin KTN holders will have to voluntarily decide on that. It's their coins.
I don't even see consensus here.

*IF, you plan to launch a coin and not accept the swaps of KARMA X11 and KTN holders, WHAT DO THESE COMMUNITIES have to do with you?
*IF, you plan to launch many coins and not unify the KARMA communities, it will mean you are adding to the already confusing state of things, why should you bother convincing the people here?
*IF you plan to launch a totally different coin in name and platform, why do you still act as though you lead KARMA?

Just asking...

-east



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June 15, 2017, 12:37:14 AM
No connections, even with the firewall turned off. Any other Ideas?

Sorry about that. Try deleting closing the wallet, deleting the conf. file, and adding them manually from ptman's instructions here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19471894
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June 15, 2017, 12:33:55 AM
No connections, even with the firewall turned off. Any other Ideas?
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June 15, 2017, 12:26:00 AM
haha please dont kill x-11 if your going to have an other coin.

east. you unnecessarily went around and asked few exchanges to drop karmax11 and add your token. which were two completely different thing and they could have co-existed...

lets not do the same for karmax11 again.

unless i see a good enough proposal of kosmost i am going to keep my coins in this chain.

bitwho, I don't know where did you get the idea that I "went around and asked a few exchanges to drop Karma X11", you will need a proof to say that, a written request coming from me would be nice to prove what you so far is claiming.

In fact when Cryptopia (the only one I knew that did drop KARMA X11 while we were doing the swap) did that, we (me and Alex was baffled), It is a chance for them to have a live KARMA market since some may want to buy KARMA (As I did) to exchange for KTN.

I personally don't have any contact with any exchanges. KTN was listed in MERCATOX due to the effort of a KTN holder.

So it's your false accusation that is really UNNECESSARY.

BTW, When do you plan to complete the return of my KARMA from mintpal??? I have been messaging you about it but you always ignore it. Why is that??? I was hoping you would act to complete the return of those Billions of KARMA or announce how the community can use it.... do you have any other plans with them?

If kosmost would investigate the address, will he find all those KARMA from MINTPAL UNTOUCHED?? You alone has the access to it. Right?

-east





by the way, how many individual users swapped their coins for KTN? You mentioned 9,000 a few times but there are only 228 incoming transactions https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/address.dws?1024695.htm

from what I have seen, most of those transactions came from the largest wallet Karma has (which is one of the STOLEN exchange wallets). And the majority of KTN tokens are owned by the person who stole the exchange wallet. From what it looks like, greater than 90% of KTN.

How many different people are there invested in KTN? (Something to consider if a KTN swap is offered)
hero member
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June 15, 2017, 12:22:26 AM
Like I said, we can do a swap but it would be a bad idea.

Even though I really want to do a swap, personally.
hero member
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June 15, 2017, 12:17:03 AM
Holy crap that was a fast response Cool

So just to be clear, I don't need any startup commands, just the nodes?

Correct.

Let us know if it doesn't work.
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June 15, 2017, 12:14:43 AM
Holy crap that was a fast response Cool

So just to be clear, I don't need any startup commands, just the nodes?
hero member
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June 15, 2017, 12:09:34 AM
BTW When do you plan to complete the return of my KARMA from mintpal BTW?? I have been messaging you about it but you always ignore it. Why is that???

-east

Because it's a secret. And the reason why it's a secret is... another secret.
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June 15, 2017, 12:07:02 AM
haha please dont kill x-11 if your going to have an other coin.

east. you unnecessarily went around and asked few exchanges to drop karmax11 and add your token. which were two completely different thing and they could have co-existed...

lets not do the same for karmax11 again.

unless i see a good enough proposal of kosmost i am going to keep my coins in this chain.

bitwho, I don't know where did you get the idea that I "went around and asked a few exchanges to drop Karma X11", you will need a proof to say that, a written request coming from me would be nice to prove what you so far is claiming.

In fact when Cryptopia (the only one I knew that did drop KARMA X11 while we were doing the swap) did that, we (me and Alex was baffled), It is a chance for them to have a live KARMA market since some may want to buy KARMA (As I did) to exchange for KTN.

I personally don't have any contact with any exchanges. KTN was listed in MERCATOX due to the effort of a KTN holder.

So it's your false accusation that is really UNNECESSARY.

BTW, When do you plan to complete the return of my KARMA from mintpal??? I have been messaging you about it but you always ignore it. Why is that??? I was hoping you would act to complete the return of those Billions of KARMA or announce how the community can use it.... do you have any other plans with them?

If kosmost would investigate the address, will he find all those KARMA from MINTPAL UNTOUCHED?? You alone has the access to it. Right?

-east



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June 15, 2017, 12:02:36 AM
Does anyone have a working wallet on their computer?
I need a copy of a .Conf file with current nodes so i can get connections.
I would like to move my coins off of YoBit.

Any help would be appreciated.

Hi. Here is what you can do:

[Note: back up your wallet.dat file before you do the following. It is in your appdata\roaming\karma\ folder. And just to be safe, you might as well make a copy of that, too]

1. Close the wallet, then create a text file: c:\users\YOUR-NAME\appdata\roaming\karma\karma.conf (or on linux, ~/.karma/karma.conf) and paste the following into it:

addnode=67.173.120.250:9432
addnode=91.153.109.149:49522
addnode=78.214.167.61:11081
addnode=69.130.152.117:51308
addnode=96.230.110.235:9333
addnode=128.173.185.170:9333
addnode=45.55.176.26:9333

2. Delete everything in %appdata%/karma except wallet.dat and karma.conf

3. (re)start the Karma wallet.
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June 14, 2017, 11:59:03 PM
Does anyone have a working wallet on their computer?
I need a copy of a .Conf file with current nodes so i can get connections.
I would like to move my coins off of YoBit.

Any help would be appreciated.
hero member
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June 14, 2017, 11:49:29 PM
Am I really the only person very, very uncomfortable with the MintPal wallet address being kept secret? It's on the public blockchain, yet we can't know the address? It was Karma's main market, and often the #1 coin on that market.

Seriously? No one else is bothered by this?

Are people more upset at me for suggesting (and asking for feedback on) a move to a platform than basic information about a wallet with MANY billions of Karma coins in it that does not belong to the person who has it?

This is really amazing when you think about it. "The coins don't belong to anyone" (but I am keeping them) + "You can't know the address (that's a secret, for a secret reason)"

Are you sure that I can't be trusted, Bitwho? I have already proven that I can, with the safe return of 100% of 10 billion coins from the community. The process was transparent from start to finish, with all information about the coins and address being made available to everyone.

How are those coins doing, by the way? Oh, I forgot. The address is a secret. And I can't ask why because that would be spamming! lol

What if more people demanded to know what the address is? Would you tell us then? Or would your reason for not wanting to do so still be "I can tell you because...well, because! I will burn them one day and I've never bothered to Google how to do it"?
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June 14, 2017, 11:21:08 PM
I want to add something that should be obvious to many (but perhaps isn't)

Most of the people viewing this thread and most of the Karma community have never said a single word. They are lurkers, but still interested in what's going on. This thread has over 500,000 views across some 400 pages, an average of about 1,200 people viewing per page. Only a few of us actually post.

People tend to be more aggressive and vocal when they are upset. We cannot assume that because a couple of people have  expressed anger towards a certain initiative that they speak for everyone. They don't.

You can take a vote all you want but that's not really how successful entities operate. You need a leader with vision who has actually had previous successes. That person has a board of advisors, but ultimately the decision to act is theirs alone because they are the ones who are responsible for that decision.

Leaders do not consider the opinions of angry people over those who aren't. In fact, it's a sign of irrational thinking. (Already, two people on this thread think that I want to do an ICO, even though it is clearly stated)

When something happens with a company people look to the CEO. What's he going to say? "It wasn't my decision.. it was the board's! or the decision of my customers". No. He is the one that will take responsibility for what happens. That's why he is the one that makes the final decision.

It's how every successful entity has operated for hundreds of years from the USA on down to a small business.

You can take a vote all you want but my point is that MOST of the Karma community won't say anything. They'll just watch.

And that's why democracy doesn't work. The people that are happy with the way things are don't vote.

Most of the people that want me to lead won't say anything. However, the people that might feel strongly about it are sure to speak up. Don't fall for this logical fallacy. The marketplace is the real vote of confidence, as economics will tell you.

-Volume increased more than 4,000% when I showed up.
-Activity on this thread has increased about 16,700% since I showed up a few days ago
-The community is finally starting to come together again  <--- wow!
-We are actually talking about how to make Karma great again
-Some real plans are starting to crystallize

Yeah.. 'evil, waltzing kosmost' who wants to break things Cheesy
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June 14, 2017, 10:49:54 PM
unless i see a good enough proposal of kosmost i am going to keep my coins in this chain.

There are two things for me to consider:

1) what's good for me, personally

2) what's good for the community

Personally, I want to do a swap. I have lots of coins and I also want to recover money that I have "lost" (even though technically one does not gain/lose until one sells)

However, I don't think that would be best for the community. My proposals are not what I want, but what I think would be best for Karma overall and Karma's future (to get Karma in the hands of more people, which nobody else is thinking about right now).

Make Karma Great Again

Call me Batman. I know that sacrifices need to be made sometimes if we want to have a better outcome. Many of us (vocal people) here don't realize that. Perhaps they can't see the forest for the trees, I don't know.

But it is obvious that Karma lacks vision. It is badly needed. I know most of us aren't senior citizens, but what's wrong with change and keeping up with the times? Why re-hash the old stuff? We can still keep the same vision while brining Karma into the hands of many, many more people. What's wrong with that possibility rather than what we have now?

We can't just have a coin sit around like it's been doing. Ok, so we do another X11... and then what? That automatically makes people care about Karma again? They will start posting again? How about NEW investors? Without pumping a fresh vision and new direction for Karma, it may just be a waste of time and resources.

Karma on Ethereum is bold, fresh, and it's the future. There's no way you can gain momentum with investors (speculators) and gain their confidence by re-doing the wallet. Yawn.

Karma's had bad coins ever since day 1. How can they trust the integrity of the new coin supply? This is why it needs to have a new name if there's nothing else going for it but a simple re-do that no one wants to do.

And right now there is no "Good Coin" or "Good... " anything. Karma could be the Good coin, and at least that's something different, to at least symbolically step away from all the bad actors in crypto. A re-branding is also free press, to introduce the coin once again to the wider crypto community. That alone could increase the market cap 1-5 million.
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June 14, 2017, 10:38:29 PM
haha please dont kill x-11 if your going to have an other coin.

east. you unnecessarily went around and asked few exchanges to drop karmax11 and add your token. which were two completely different thing and they could have co-existed...

lets not do the same for karmax11 again.

unless i see a good enough proposal of kosmost i am going to keep my coins in this chain.
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