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August 05, 2014, 09:32:27 PM
just looking at the difficulty thinking whats going on here...

then i just checked coinwarz for something to do.. oh




That profitability is under quoted if anything because Karma is selling for 2.3 BTC on Litecoin markets.

If you didn't know anything about Karma and noticed it was trading for only 0.00000002 BTC on Mintpal would you mine it? I wouldn't because if it decreases by 1 mining profitability is halved.

I think one thing we should do is get them to list the price in LTC if we can however I don't know what miners would think seeing it only in LTC not BTC. Perhaps 2 prices would be best if possible...

This is around what I thought Karma would be hashing at so it isn't too big of an issue really.
legendary
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August 05, 2014, 08:33:35 PM
i don't get it ....

Network: 7.71 GH/s Difficulty: 88.21250552


Network: 4.7 GH/s Difficulty: 85.32779001
legendary
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August 05, 2014, 06:34:58 PM
This pool has too much hash rate:
https://www.multipool.us/stats.php?curr=karm

This is one reason we should attract more miners.
And also encourage the usage of P2Pools.

More miners usually equals hashing power more well distributed.

i would be so happy to have all the miners in p2p pool ..


also that multipool pays in btcs.  well unless you select karma as payments... so probably %80 there are collecting btcs. this means the pool sells the karma for btcs.
 Angry Angry Angry
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August 05, 2014, 06:26:04 PM
now just to change the topic slightly.. has anyone seen airtasker?

I just saw this on tv and checked out the site.

https://www.airtasker.com

a site like this for Karma (or any other crypto) where you can task people to do small jobs and good things.. that would be awesome.

consider this for a concept.

just say there is a granny living alone and she needs her garden cleaned.
just say nobody in the Karma community lives near her.
just say there was a website where she could post an advert that she needs help.
just say some generous Karma people offer to support her Task and donate some karma to the cause.
just say some local kids from the neighborhood see the job posted online and need some pocket money.

the kids sign up accept the job.. they clean the grannies garden. Once the job is complete the Granny marks the job well done online and the kids get paid.
now the kids can do whatever they want with their karma. they could swap it for BTC on an exchange, they could buy online goods like Games, or they could use to pay someone else to do a job for them.

everyone is happy and good Karma is bestowed upon all.


well you might say.. what is to stop the kids from doing a crappy job and ripping off the granny...

well just say you had a 5 star system ... if the kids do a good job (5 stars) they get all the money.. 4 stars and they only get 80% of the money etc etc.
and whatever Karma is left over goes back to the donors.

whats to stop the granny from taking advantage of the kids and giving them only 1 star (ie only 20% if the pay) even if they do an awesome job...
well the money left over doesn't go back to the granny and she has a star rating too.
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August 05, 2014, 06:17:20 PM

More miners usually equals hashing power more well distributed.

that's what you would expect to happen but in practice miners tend to go to the biggest pool because their payouts are more regular at large pools.
even bitcoin has this problem and they have more miners than all the other alt coins combined.

P2Pool and education are the only things that can tackle the problem of pool centralization.

sr. member
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August 05, 2014, 06:12:50 PM
This pool has too much hash rate:
https://www.multipool.us/stats.php?curr=karm

This is one reason we should attract more miners.
And also encourage the usage of P2Pools.

More miners usually equals hashing power more well distributed.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
August 05, 2014, 06:02:19 PM
The solar panels are cool but I think they are kite expensive, so the return of investment (ROI) does not look very attractive.
But from an environmentalist perspective its a completely different story... Wink

I'm not sure where you live but in most countries the ROI is less than 5 years, after that your power is free until the panels break which is about another 20 years.

this is why people cant see the revolution because they don't even realize how cheap solar and other types of renewable energy are right now.


In that case I'm going to seriouly think about buying some serious solar pannels :-)
Such as one or more of this kits:
https://www.renogy-store.com/400W-Mono-Bundle-p/kit-bundle400d.htm

I have been thinking about buyng this to charge my phone and other small stuff for a long time.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E3OL5U8/ref=s9_simh_gw_p107_d20_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=18JC502K9M3S0YKEQZAT&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846


its definitely worth looking into, the larger you go the cheaper it is.
If you are off grid then you also need to buy battery banks etc to store the power so you can run over night.
but most people use ON grid i.e. grid connected systems where they can use the power from their power company at night and then give power back during the day.

or solar panels kits you should be looking at about $1 (or less) per watt..

note a 400W system would not be anywhere near enough to power a fully loaded mining rig. but you could power a few gridseeds with it.

Yup... 400w would not be enough even for my desktop computer...lol

But for a small house with a LED LCD, some led lights and an efficient computer+monitor (less than 50w)... It would be perfect!
I guess I could live with that...eheh
legendary
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August 05, 2014, 06:01:10 PM
Well done! Thanks for the response....we have now been added to CCex
We now have a Dollar market!
https://c-cex.com/?p=karm-usd

Good job!

the great thing about this exchange is that it can trade any coin with karma!

hero member
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Merit: 1000
August 05, 2014, 05:50:31 PM
The solar panels are cool but I think they are kite expensive, so the return of investment (ROI) does not look very attractive.
But from an environmentalist perspective its a completely different story... Wink

I'm not sure where you live but in most countries the ROI is less than 5 years, after that your power is free until the panels break which is about another 20 years.

this is why people cant see the revolution because they don't even realize how cheap solar and other types of renewable energy are right now.


In that case I'm going to seriouly think about buying some serious solar pannels :-)
Such as one or more of this kits:
https://www.renogy-store.com/400W-Mono-Bundle-p/kit-bundle400d.htm

I have been thinking about buyng this to charge my phone and other small stuff for a long time.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E3OL5U8/ref=s9_simh_gw_p107_d20_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=18JC502K9M3S0YKEQZAT&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846


its definitely worth looking into, the larger you go the cheaper it is.
If you are off grid then you also need to buy battery banks etc to store the power so you can run over night.
but most people use ON grid i.e. grid connected systems where they can use the power from their power company at night and then give power back during the day.

or solar panels kits you should be looking at about $1 (or less) per watt..

note a 400W system would not be anywhere near enough to power a fully loaded mining rig. but you could power a few gridseeds with it.
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
August 05, 2014, 05:46:57 PM
The solar panels are cool but I think they are kite expensive, so the return of investment (ROI) does not look very attractive.
But from an environmentalist perspective its a completely different story... Wink

I'm not sure where you live but in most countries the ROI is less than 5 years, after that your power is free until the panels break which is about another 20 years.

this is why people cant see the revolution because they don't even realize how cheap solar and other types of renewable energy are right now.


In that case I'm going to seriouly think about buying some serious solar pannels :-)
Such as one or more of this kits:
https://www.renogy-store.com/400W-Mono-Bundle-p/kit-bundle400d.htm

I have been thinking about buyng this to charge my phone and other small stuff for a long time.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E3OL5U8/ref=s9_simh_gw_p107_d20_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=18JC502K9M3S0YKEQZAT&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846
hero member
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Merit: 1000
August 05, 2014, 05:41:01 PM
The solar panels are cool but I think they are kite expensive, so the return of investment (ROI) does not look very attractive.
But from an environmentalist perspective its a completely different story... Wink

I'm not sure where you live but in most countries the ROI is less than 5 years, after that your power is free until the panels break which is about another 20 years.

this is why people cant see the revolution because they don't even realize how cheap solar and other types of renewable energy are right now.
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
August 05, 2014, 05:37:18 PM

You are right about mining under the radar!
People mining now are going to make huge profits when the coin is worth 10x (mid-term) or 100x (long-term).

I only wish I had a 10KW solar power system on my roof and then I could mine all day long and not have to worry about massive power bills.
I think we will see this happening all around the world in the very near future.

the key is to keep the coin growing strong until renewable energy takes care of the problem of mining power bills.

I think we really are on the cusp of a revolution even if most people cant quite see it yet.


the ability to turn renewable energy which is free directly into a store of value (ie gold or crypto money) without the need for a middle man.. this is the holy grail that alchemists have been trying to figure out for thousands of years.

The solar panels are cool but I think they are kite expensive, so the return of investment (ROI) does not look very attractive.
But from an environmentalist perspective its a completely different story... Wink
sr. member
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Merit: 250
August 05, 2014, 05:35:47 PM
I suggest everyone of you that is not a native-english speaker to talk more (post from time to time, maybe one post a day?) on the Karma announcement thread in the subforum of your language (and others).


                   


I started posting on the Portuguese subforum.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8204541

I will also post on the Spanish and French subforums.

We can not image how crazy strong or week will be the result of such markting in the national sub-forums, so better give it a try!
hero member
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August 05, 2014, 05:33:04 PM

You are right about mining under the radar!
People mining now are going to make huge profits when the coin is worth 10x (mid-term) or 100x (long-term).

I only wish I had a 10KW solar power system on my roof and then I could mine all day long and not have to worry about massive power bills.
I think we will see this happening all around the world in the very near future.

the key is to keep the coin growing strong until renewable energy takes care of the problem of mining power bills.

I think we really are on the cusp of a revolution even if most people cant quite see it yet.


the ability to turn renewable energy (which is free) directly into a store of value (ie digital gold or crypto money) without the need for a middle man.. this is the holy grail that alchemists have been trying to figure out for thousands of years.
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
August 05, 2014, 05:28:50 PM
We need to attract more miners.

Any idea on how to do it?

We need 50+ GH/s net hash rate to be taken seriously.
At least 5 times more in relation to what we have now.


I do not completely agree with the assumptions that we need to attract more miners or that the coin will be taken more seriously if it has a higher network hash rate.

from a security perspective X11 drastically decreased the chances of a 51% attack even if the network hash rate is reduced. This is because it is much harder to amass hash power with GPUs (X11) than it is to simply buy or rent a few very powerful Scrypt ASICs.

So with the threat of 51% attack reduced, attracting miners becomes less important.

with low hash rate and low difficulty I think people should simply enjoy the extra coins they are getting by being under the radar.

now I'm not sure how profitable it is to mine Karma atm but I will give it a go.

but for me the bottom line is this.

If it is profitable to mine then I will keep mining it.. if it is not profitable mine then I simply won't... it does not matter to me at all where Karma sits on the charts of mining profitability website.

from an investors point of view.. network hash rate is not so important either because the coins I own cannot be stolen by a 51% attack.


You are right about mining under the radar!
People mining now are going to make huge profits when the coin is worth 10x (mid-term) or 100x (long-term).
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
August 05, 2014, 05:25:50 PM
We need to attract more miners.

Any idea on how to do it?

We need 50+ GH/s net hash rate to be taken seriously.
At least 5 times more in relation to what we have now.


I do not completely agree with the assumptions that we need to attract more miners or that the coin will be taken more seriously if it has a higher network hash rate.

from a security perspective X11 drastically decreased the chances of a 51% attack even if the network hash rate is reduced. This is because it is much harder to amass hash power with GPUs (X11) than it is to simply buy or rent a few very powerful Scrypt ASICs.

So with the threat of 51% attack reduced, attracting miners becomes less important.

with low hash rate and low difficulty I think people should simply enjoy the extra coins they are getting by being under the radar.

now I'm not sure how profitable it is to mine Karma atm but I will give it a go.

but for me the bottom line is this.

If it is profitable to mine then I will keep mining it.. if it is not profitable mine then I simply won't... it does not matter to me at all where Karma sits on the charts of mining profitability website.

from an investors point of view.. network hash rate is not so important either because the coins I own cannot be stolen by a 51% attack.

I do somewhat agree that more miners = more users.. but we need also to consider that in the mining game.. people don't tend to hold onto coins for very long.. especially if they have no future.. and so I would argue that it is more important to focus on the future developments of the coin than to worry about the miners.
sr. member
Activity: 532
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August 05, 2014, 05:10:31 PM
We need to attract more miners.

Any idea on how to do it?

We need 50+ GH/s net hash rate to be taken seriously.
At least 5 times more in relation to what we have now.
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August 05, 2014, 04:57:42 PM
just looking at the difficulty thinking whats going on here...

then i just checked coinwarz for something to do.. oh


sr. member
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August 05, 2014, 11:57:13 AM
Mining contest is going well. Now is time for the creative persons of our community to step up. Karma team members can also participate.
Today I am starting contest with a first place award of 2 000 000 (TWO MILLION) KARMA. No consolation awards. The rules are as follows:
1. At least 5 participants
2. Every participant can provide more than 1 photo. No limit about this.
3. Photos must contain KARMA logo and GOT KARMA? written or drawn by hand (Not printed). So only the GOT KARMA? must be written or drawn by a hand, which includes graphite drawing. I don`t care about the logo if it is printed or drawn by a hand, but it must be our original logo.
4. Photos can be for example selfie with a popular person and you wearing t-shirt with KARMA logo and GOT KARMA?, photo on the top of a skyscraper holding KARMA logo and GOT KARMA?, photo of somebody jumping with parachute holding KARMA logo and GOT KARMA?, nice graphite drawing of our logo and GOT KARMA? and all other things that crosses your mind.
5. The last day of this campaign is 1-st of September. No photos will be accepted on 2-nd of September. (exceptions for delayed photos only if I see on the photo Barack Obama or Queen Elizabeth  Grin)
6. You can post your pictures here, forum, facebook and karmashare.me. You must pm me here with a link to the original post.
7. The winner will be chosen by community vote in our forum. Voting will continue 3 days, but I want at least 25 votes. If we don`t have 25 votes, we shall extend the voting period. If there is a tie between two or more photos and/or persons, I suggest our respectful Marketing & PR workgroup moderators easteagle13 and jasondecosta to choose the winning photo. If jasondecosta decide to participate, me and easteagle13 will have the last word.

These are the rules. Do not cheat! I will catch you. Believe me. Do not use any tools to make your photos look better. If I catch someone cheating, all of his/her photos will be disqualified. This is a real life contest. I am not encouraging you to do something dangerous or stupid, but to win this, it is obvious that you have to be a little crazy. So happy shooting.

Me and easteagle13 are splitting the funding for this. 1 mill comes from me and 1 mill from him. This is not an official karma marketing project.

GOT KARMA?
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We are the ones we've been waiting for
August 05, 2014, 10:49:53 AM
That's good news! The only downside is that BTC's are a bit overprized there.
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