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November 21, 2015, 02:05:28 PM
Hi guys,

We don't need to wait for anyone to "take over" Karma. Actually it will not happen. I wont try to explain why, because I know you can understand why if you really consider everything that's  involved in doing so.

What we need is to be organized. As I have said may times over before. When we, who hold Karma, become organized then we can safely and progressively move forward.

Those who are still interested and care should post something.

No other way around it.

Good Karma everyone.

-east

I am interested - who's willing to takeover

-samsunk
newbie
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November 21, 2015, 01:37:31 PM
So, no dev here. Huh LoL. Good luck... Grin
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November 21, 2015, 11:53:24 AM
East is speaking true words, the issue is that even after one year no one is interested in doing something with Karma, or agreeing on a direction. The problem is the lack of interest and support. I sponsor / run the Karma website/forum and did also run a dedicated block-explorer.
I see plenty ppl complaining and discussion the future or past of Karma, instead if you care why not propose something? I got a few idea's how to get Karma back on track and build something on top of it. However that would requires a few dedicated ppl who can organise themselves
and support the cause. We can easy build a KARMA DAO (Decentralised Autonomous Organisation) where the governance is done by Smart-Contracts. It would take care of all financials without a single person having access to it. It would be complete transparent to everyone and everyone who want to contribute could earn something. As I said, I got a few ideas how to do that and I am even willing to help out but that only works if there is a real interest and ppl who are willing to sponsor their skills and time.

Let me know who got interest and in what capacity

Best,
Karma Admin aka scryptminer


Most people here do not have technical knowledge like me,as I guess. I have interest but want a little clarification. What help is expected exactly? Amount to be collected from the community or ...? What sponsorship is it? How much we will need?


the Help depends on what we would build, from coding over to community work, Administration of platform, services etc. And I don't talk about any Money here, just time and expertise. If there is genuine interest of ppl. who want to help and work
on KARMA then we can see what we can do. I will create a Thread in the Karma Forum.
hero member
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November 21, 2015, 11:51:16 AM
Karmacoin very close to be declared dead....... Undecided

lol ... i think very much alive ... but truly decentralized ... there is no dev/leaders ... but the network and infrastructure is still fairly decent ... magic could still happen with this one.

Agreed..

i think with some decent direction - it will become a good stable coin ...

this means that further development and ownership of the coin ( yes - that means a takeover or a team ownership ) should take place - so that a solid path can be forged and followed through with - a developmental program / path - and a solid backend ( nodes - faucet - block explorer - etc ) can be established ...

so leadership is crucial for the coin to move forward in a positive direction ... this is what not only keeps the coin stable ( including the community support ) - but also so that funds can be accrued and spent on doing the positive things that will move the coin forward ...

there are issues with karma at the moment that need attention and can be fixed with a few solid decisions that need to be made ... none of this can happen without leadership and someone ( or team ) to step up and take the code under their wings and not only fix the code - but also stabalize the network and bring it back to the place karma was when mining was a beneficial and trading was pretty good Smiley ...

until then - its a coin thats floating in crypto space - that has a good community behind it - but no direction ...

#crysx

I agree with that. The value of most altcoins is pegged to Bitcoin over time, with higher risk of them disappearing or being abandoned. Many fall victim to pump and dump schemes or short term run-ups because of popularity (if that is not the same), but are surely nothing you would like to invest in (speaking of holding long term).
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November 21, 2015, 11:42:26 AM
East is speaking true words, the issue is that even after one year no one is interested in doing something with Karma, or agreeing on a direction. The problem is the lack of interest and support. I sponsor / run the Karma website/forum and did also run a dedicated block-explorer.
I see plenty ppl complaining and discussion the future or past of Karma, instead if you care why not propose something? I got a few idea's how to get Karma back on track and build something on top of it. However that would requires a few dedicated ppl who can organise themselves
and support the cause. We can easy build a KARMA DAO (Decentralised Autonomous Organisation) where the governance is done by Smart-Contracts. It would take care of all financials without a single person having access to it. It would be complete transparent to everyone and everyone who want to contribute could earn something. As I said, I got a few ideas how to do that and I am even willing to help out but that only works if there is a real interest and ppl who are willing to sponsor their skills and time.

Let me know who got interest and in what capacity

Best,
Karma Admin aka scryptminer


Most people here do not have technical knowledge like me,as I guess. I have interest but want a little clarification. What help is expected exactly? Amount to be collected from the community or ...? What sponsorship is it? How much we will need?
newbie
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November 21, 2015, 08:40:53 AM
East is speaking true words, the issue is that even after one year no one is interested in doing something with Karma, or agreeing on a direction. The problem is the lack of interest and support. I sponsor / run the Karma website/forum and did also run a dedicated block-explorer.
I see plenty ppl complaining and discussion the future or past of Karma, instead if you care why not propose something? I got a few idea's how to get Karma back on track and build something on top of it. However that would requires a few dedicated ppl who can organise themselves
and support the cause. We can easy build a KARMA DAO (Decentralised Autonomous Organisation) where the governance is done by Smart-Contracts. It would take care of all financials without a single person having access to it. It would be complete transparent to everyone and everyone who want to contribute could earn something. As I said, I got a few ideas how to do that and I am even willing to help out but that only works if there is a real interest and ppl who are willing to sponsor their skills and time.

Let me know who got interest and in what capacity

Best,
Karma Admin aka scryptminer
legendary
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November 20, 2015, 07:50:35 AM
Hi guys,

We don't need to wait for anyone to "take over" Karma. Actually it will not happen. I wont try to explain why, because I know you can understand why if you really consider everything that's  involved in doing so.

What we need is to be organized. As I have said may times over before. When we, who hold Karma, become organized then we can safely and progressively move forward.

Those who are still interested and care should post something.

No other way around it.

Good Karma everyone.

-east

im interested in the forward direction of karma ...

in all fairness - there are a number of things that NEED to be taken into account with what you are referring to ...

costs - control - authority - budget ...

i know - i have done it before ... and once again in all fairness - karma cannot be placed in the authority of the karma holders ( aka the community ) for two reasons ...

first ... ANYONE and EVERYONE who holds karma would not only have a say - but also have authority over what goes into / what is produced / what is coded / what is paid for / etc ...

second ... who would police this? ... who would coordinate this? ... who would PAY for this? ...

the coin needs not only a functional system to drive the development AND the coin forward - but also a LEAD to drive the system and keep it stable ...

time - effort - and energy needs to be expended when keeping things running for the coin - and the community ... this all costs money ( fiat ) and requires leadership to be responsible for the continuation of such a system ...

ultimately - i cannot see any other way than for a leader ( or team ) to take control of the code direction - and setup a new thread - a new website - a new structure - with new nodes - and a new vision ...

this CANNOT be done by a whole community ... as it will COST the community and require the ENTIRE community to have a say in ALL that gets done ...

how will that work? ... how can that get done? ... to vote for every line of code that gets changed? ... or every image on the website to authorized by the community? ...

i believe if this coin is to survive - let alone succeed - it needs a full redirection and rebase ... this requires a takeover and requires someone ( or a team ) to take responsibility of the ENTIRE system - from code to website ... from nodes to bct discussion thread ...

but - as with my advice early on ( many pages back ) on hardforking the coin to 'fix' the issue that it currently has with the blockchain - what i say can fall on deaf ears or it can be picked apart and discussed ...

eitherway - there is nothing being done currently ... unless someone out there is working in the background and not coming forward ...

#crysx
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November 20, 2015, 07:08:26 AM
Hi guys,

We don't need to wait for anyone to "take over" Karma. Actually it will not happen. I wont try to explain why, because I know you can understand why if you really consider everything that's  involved in doing so.

What we need is to be organized. As I have said may times over before. When we, who hold Karma, become organized then we can safely and progressively move forward.

Those who are still interested and care should post something.

No other way around it.

Good Karma everyone.

-east
legendary
Activity: 2870
Merit: 1091
--- ChainWorks Industries ---
November 18, 2015, 09:40:10 PM
The same that a wing drift boat on litoshiessealand is not a good thing, But considering that it was a important coin time ago, 3 months could be time enough to see if any type of magic could still happen with this one.

February 18,2016   - Deadline if it dont have any new dev yet.

what is the deadline for? ...

#crysx

Ok, It is a date, And if its reached and there is not dev yet  to Karma it could be declared dead.

who declares it dead? ...

im asking because as far as i know - there is no central authority that dictates when a coin is 'dead' or not ...

BUT - i do see what you mean ... though i cannot agree with the date nor with the methodology you are using to indicate the death of karma ...

if people are still using the coin - if people are still trading the coin - if people are still mining the coin ... then there is no way by any means or date that anyone can declare it dead - just because the dev hasnt showed up ...

a takeover can be initiated - but it would require the access of the majority profiles that exist today - including full access to the website and bct profiles and others ... if that can happen - then a smooth takeover can be initiated ... if it cant happen - then the community itself needs to back a takeover of the coin ...

but dead? ... only if it actually 'dies' and not by any particular date that anyone chooses ...

Smiley ...

#crysx
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 07:06:58 PM
The same that a wing drift boat on litoshiessealand is not a good thing, But considering that it was a important coin time ago, 3 months could be time enough to see if any type of magic could still happen with this one.

February 18,2016   - Deadline if it dont have any new dev yet.

what is the deadline for? ...

#crysx

Ok, It is a date, And if its reached and there is not dev yet  to Karma it could be declared dead.
legendary
Activity: 2870
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--- ChainWorks Industries ---
November 18, 2015, 06:06:59 PM
The same that a wing drift boat on litoshiessealand is not a good thing, But considering that it was a important coin time ago, 3 months could be time enough to see if any type of magic could still happen with this one.

February 18,2016   - Deadline if it dont have any new dev yet.

what is the deadline for? ...

#crysx
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 10:33:11 AM
The same that a wing drift boat on litoshiessealand is not a good thing, But considering that it was a important coin time ago, 3 months could be time enough to see if any type of magic could still happen with this one.

February 18,2016   - Deadline if it dont have any new dev yet.
legendary
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November 17, 2015, 08:04:29 AM
No one wants your worthless computer data doooods. xD

TODAY IS A GOOD DAY FOR A SHITCOIN PONZI TO DIIIIE !

:p
legendary
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November 15, 2015, 07:52:44 PM
Karmacoin very close to be declared dead....... Undecided

lol ... i think very much alive ... but truly decentralized ... there is no dev/leaders ... but the network and infrastructure is still fairly decent ... magic could still happen with this one.

Agreed..

i think with some decent direction - it will become a good stable coin ...

this means that further development and ownership of the coin ( yes - that means a takeover or a team ownership ) should take place - so that a solid path can be forged and followed through with - a developmental program / path - and a solid backend ( nodes - faucet - block explorer - etc ) can be established ...

so leadership is crucial for the coin to move forward in a positive direction ... this is what not only keeps the coin stable ( including the community support ) - but also so that funds can be accrued and spent on doing the positive things that will move the coin forward ...

there are issues with karma at the moment that need attention and can be fixed with a few solid decisions that need to be made ... none of this can happen without leadership and someone ( or team ) to step up and take the code under their wings and not only fix the code - but also stabalize the network and bring it back to the place karma was when mining was a beneficial and trading was pretty good Smiley ...

until then - its a coin thats floating in crypto space - that has a good community behind it - but no direction ...

#crysx
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November 15, 2015, 07:14:59 PM
Karmacoin very close to be declared dead....... Undecided

lol ... i think very much alive ... but truly decentralized ... there is no dev/leaders ... but the network and infrastructure is still fairly decent ... magic could still happen with this one.

Agreed..
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November 15, 2015, 04:12:56 AM
Karmacoin very close to be declared dead....... Undecided

lol ... i think very much alive ... but truly decentralized ... there is no dev/leaders ... but the network and infrastructure is still fairly decent ... magic could still happen with this one.
legendary
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November 08, 2015, 05:45:24 PM
Karmacoin very close to be declared dead....... Undecided
legendary
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November 07, 2015, 08:18:03 AM

thats because its a snake with a tail but no head ...

no leader to direct the project to where its supposed to go - or a new path ...

i know there have been a few here that have done A LOT to try and help and get things sorted here ( you know who you are ) but that really is not enough ... not to 'save' a sinking coin anyway ...

anyhow - i hope this wont be the end - as i would like to see more of karma ...

#crysx

I hope not aswell, a lot of links seem dead for the pools, exchanges, block explorers and even links on givekarma.net - Who has control of these accounts?

the original dev from what i understand ... so there really is nothing anyone can do until it completely dies ...

#crysx
legendary
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November 07, 2015, 08:15:52 AM

thats because its a snake with a tail but no head ...

no leader to direct the project to where its supposed to go - or a new path ...

i know there have been a few here that have done A LOT to try and help and get things sorted here ( you know who you are ) but that really is not enough ... not to 'save' a sinking coin anyway ...

anyhow - i hope this wont be the end - as i would like to see more of karma ...

#crysx

I hope not aswell, a lot of links seem dead for the pools, exchanges, block explorers and even links on givekarma.net - Who has control of these accounts?
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