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Topic: [ANN][KARM] Karmacoin - New Initiatives - Helping People Do Good - page 108. (Read 352488 times)

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@karmacoingood

I know the natural inclination for this sort of organic development goes against the following, but it would really help us to get organized and work efficiently. Let me know your thoughts:

1) Decide on the mission statement and make everyone clear about the direction of Karmacoin.

2) Brainstorm to put together a short list of all the things that we need to do in the next 3-6 months. Take a look at other successful and up-and-coming coins (Bitcoin, Dogecoin, Reddcoin, etc) and see what can be borrowed.

3) Get volunteers to take ownership of a part of the task list and have them set their own deadlines and sub-tasks. Even if they can't do it themselves, they can make it their job to find someone to do it.

4) Centralize the task list (I recommend Zoho Projects or some other efficient system)

5) Nominate one person to manage the task list and make sure things get done, and the list is thorough and organized.

6) Regularly communicate on every Karmacoin channel about what we're up to

I know it sounds a bit bureaucratic, but getting organized I think is our first priority. Otherwise, our progress will be exceedingly slow. We still haven't seemed to decide on a logo, slogan, brand, mission statement, etc., because we are not yet organized. It is the difference between success and failure. If we succeed without being organized, that's just luck.

After that, I think the priority is to polish the website to make it more user-friendly and easier to find out what Karmacoin is about and navigate the website.

Some notes about design and branding

We need 1 or 2 people that have experience in website UX and/or graphic design/marketing to make decisions related to UX and design/marketing. (Alternatively, putting together a contest on 99designs and tweaking the submissions as we go along.) We then need to survey 10+ people that 1) are not a part of Karmacoin but may possibly be in future; 2) our target market, to find out how they feel about Karmacoin from the logo/brand

If we have a couple of people here designing and working to continually please a large number of non-designers who have every manner of concerns about design, progress will be nearly impossible.

We're a coin, but "Karmacoin" is still a brand and should be treated as any global brand would be. This is perhaps the most important decision we'll make, and one that needs to be done quickly. Whenever the democratic process is inserted into design decisions chaos ensues. This is what has happened to us. The only voting that should take place is surveying people that do not yet have a stake in Karmacoin. (non-technical people that will be the greatest majority of future users)

In the following link, Marissa Meyer of Yahoo chronicles what happened when they did the same thing that Karmacoin did. The result? A bad logo that was out of touch with what users wanted:  http://marissamayr.tumblr.com/post/60336044815/geeking-out-on-the-logo. Read "Yahoo's Branding Disaster" here: http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2013/09/yahoos-branding-disaster/

Here, a few people got together to do a memorial for the Jewish Holocaust, and ended up creating a memorial in comic sans font (!) http://fontsinuse.com/uses/2274/war-memorial-in-geffen-nl

Good design will cost a few hundred dollars, but bad design (out of touch with target market) will end up costing us a lot more.

Hey jpeters.  I am going to sleep now.  What role do you want?  Can we start up on this at 9a EST on IRQ tomorrow morning?
newbie
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@karmacoingood

I know the natural inclination for this sort of organic development goes against the following, but it would really help us to get organized and work efficiently. Let me know your thoughts:

1) Decide on the mission statement and make everyone clear about the direction of Karmacoin.

2) Brainstorm to put together a short list of all the things that we need to do in the next 3-6 months. Take a look at other successful and up-and-coming coins (Bitcoin, Dogecoin, Reddcoin, etc) and see what can be borrowed.

3) Get volunteers to take ownership of a part of the task list and have them set their own deadlines and sub-tasks. Even if they can't do it themselves, they can make it their job to find someone to do it.

4) Centralize the task list (I recommend Zoho Projects or some other efficient system)

5) Nominate one person to manage the task list and make sure things get done, and the list is thorough and organized.

6) Regularly communicate on every Karmacoin channel about what we're up to

I know it sounds a bit bureaucratic, but getting organized I think is our first priority. Otherwise, our progress will be exceedingly slow. We still haven't seemed to decide on a logo, slogan, brand, mission statement, etc., because we are not yet organized. It is the difference between success and failure. If we succeed without being organized, that's just luck.

After that, I think the priority is to polish the website to make it more user-friendly and easier to find out what Karmacoin is about and navigate the website.

Some notes about design and branding

We need 1 or 2 people that have experience in website UX and/or graphic design/marketing to make decisions related to UX and design/marketing. (Alternatively, putting together a contest on 99designs and tweaking the submissions as we go along.) We then need to survey 10+ people that 1) are not a part of Karmacoin but may possibly be in future; 2) our target market, to find out how they feel about Karmacoin from the logo/brand

If we have a couple of people here designing and working to continually please a large number of non-designers who have every manner of concerns about design, progress will be nearly impossible.

We're a coin, but "Karmacoin" is still a brand and should be treated as any global brand would be. This is perhaps the most important decision we'll make, and one that needs to be done quickly. Whenever the democratic process is inserted into design decisions chaos ensues. This is what has happened to us. The only voting that should take place is surveying people that do not yet have a stake in Karmacoin. (non-technical people that will be the greatest majority of future users)

In the following link, Marissa Meyer of Yahoo chronicles what happened when they did the same thing that Karmacoin did. The result? A bad logo that was out of touch with what users wanted:  http://marissamayr.tumblr.com/post/60336044815/geeking-out-on-the-logo. Read "Yahoo's Branding Disaster" here: http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2013/09/yahoos-branding-disaster/

Here, a few people got together to do a memorial for the Jewish Holocaust, and ended up creating a memorial in comic sans font (!) http://fontsinuse.com/uses/2274/war-memorial-in-geffen-nl

Good design will cost a few hundred dollars, but bad design (out of touch with target market) will end up costing us a lot more.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
How about the dev focuses on the development, the designers and marketers focus on the design and marketing, and other people focus on their respective roles?

I think 5-6 people should do the trick

We need 1 or 2 people given the authority to coordinate and manage this project and make things happen.

Let's get this over 200 satoshi! Together, we can make this happen.

sounds right.
candidate Karmashians?:
El3k0n
ShawnLeary
jtpeters
Alphi
jwcplanet
karmazaki
ptman

if you guys have read form the beggining. #karmateam is the IRC chat i created to brainstorm before. you're all welcome to come there and lets discuss strategies
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 504
This coin is gonna be big :-)
Lots of interesting ideas being discussed!

How can a coin with 155 thread pages be worth 1 satoshi!!!

I expect 10+ satoshi in a week time.

What killed us was the mining profitability was based on coinmarket.io.  When they paused trading last week its basically killed the volume and price.  I don't have my finger on the pulse of the miners but I can imagine with they flooded the market to unload their karma it dropped the price and a few chicken littles did as well.  We are barely a month old, we are working out the kinks and will get the Karma train back on the tracks soon!
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
This coin is gonna be big :-)
Lots of interesting ideas being discussed!

How can a coin with 155 thread pages be worth 1 satoshi!!!

I expect 10+ satoshi in a week time.
hero member
Activity: 690
Merit: 500
nice logo karma coin...power coin
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
uuu ..  why don't i see me name on that list?  i've been promoting this coin nonstop. Since the begging Wink
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 504
How about getting in touch with some of the big donation websites like http://www.globalgiving.org/, just google "donation websites" there are a few if you manage to get a few of them on board taking Karmacoin would be a great way to get the word out. I cant see any reason why they would not want to take the coin as is it just another way for people to get money to them for good causes.

That is a good idea.  I personally want us to sponsor specific initiatives of Doing Good.
I already have a Foundation that makes donations. I like to give to things where i can see the change.
Is there something specific that Globalgiving is working on that you personally care about?  We could get behind that - but it has to mean something to you!
Karmachanging.

I like www.patronsofthehearts.org, they bring kids to Wolfon's Children's Hospital, Jacksonville, FL for lifesaving cardiac procedures from underprivileged parts of the world.  Think its around $5k to sponsor a child.  I will talk to the founders and see if they are interested, could be a good option.  Its a direct individual child that gets saved and then they go back to their country and become an ambassador of good will, and good karma?  Grin
hero member
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I'm hanging in the #karmacoingood channel on the chat.freenode.net if anyone wants to chat and throw some more ideas around.

SL
full member
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Merit: 100
How about getting in touch with some of the big donation websites like http://www.globalgiving.org/, just google "donation websites" there are a few if you manage to get a few of them on board taking Karmacoin would be a great way to get the word out. I cant see any reason why they would not want to take the coin as is it just another way for people to get money to them for good causes.

That is a good idea.  I personally want us to sponsor specific initiatives of Doing Good.
I already have a Foundation that makes donations. I like to give to things where i can see the change.
Is there something specific that Globalgiving is working on that you personally care about?  We could get behind that - but it has to mean something to you!
Karmachanging.

I have no specific cause there are many there that are worth it, maybe a weekly or monthly community vote could be done through the website or here. Could list a amount of causes from that site or any other place with many causes, setup a bounty address for the community to donate through and then at the end of the poll send the donation through to the winner. Or get some type of plugin that sites like that could use to have Karmacoin donated directly through there website you never know if some big charity like Cancer Research or Oxfam had a plugin on there pages to donate Karmacoin it would get out to millions of people.

Just a few ideas to try help the coin and spread some good
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
How about getting in touch with some of the big donation websites like http://www.globalgiving.org/, just google "donation websites" there are a few if you manage to get a few of them on board taking Karmacoin would be a great way to get the word out. I cant see any reason why they would not want to take the coin as is it just another way for people to get money to them for good causes.

That is a good idea.  I personally want us to sponsor specific initiatives of Doing Good.
I already have a Foundation that makes donations. I like to give to things where i can see the change.
Is there something specific that Globalgiving is working on that you personally care about?  We could get behind that - but it has to mean something to you!
Karmachanging.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
How about the dev focuses on the development, the designers and marketers focus on the design and marketing, and other people focus on their respective roles?

I think 5-6 people should do the trick

We need 1 or 2 people given the authority to coordinate and manage this project and make things happen.

Let's get this over 200 satoshi! Together, we can make this happen.

sounds right.
candidate Karmashians?:
El3k0n
ShawnLeary
jtpeters
Alphi
jwcplanet
karmazaki
ptman


I can create a private forum for the leadership at karmacointalk.org if that works?
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
How about getting in touch with some of the big donation websites like http://www.globalgiving.org/, just google "donation websites" there are a few if you manage to get a few of them on board taking Karmacoin would be a great way to get the word out. I cant see any reason why they would not want to take the coin as is it just another way for people to get money to them for good causes.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
How about the dev focuses on the development, the designers and marketers focus on the design and marketing, and other people focus on their respective roles?

I think 5-6 people should do the trick

We need 1 or 2 people given the authority to coordinate and manage this project and make things happen.

Let's get this over 200 satoshi! Together, we can make this happen.

sounds right.
candidate Karmashians?:
El3k0n
ShawnLeary
jtpeters
Alphi
jwcplanet
karmazaki
ptman


I would love to, but my personality would not be right for this project. I'm far too passionate. I'm the kind of person that needs to take charge. I move too fast and have too little patience for something like Karmacoin where we all need to work together. It's much slower than a directed effort, but we end up happier. Sure, it might end up being the biggest coin because I work tirelessly and never quit but everyone involved would be exhausted and end up hating me for it Smiley

I can only suggest that we get a few logo ideas together and take a survey of our target market. And also regarding the UI of our website. It should not be up to us to decide these things, because we are too close to it. We should design for newcomers to make it as accessible and as easy as possible. "Test all theories"

You seem to have it together.  Why not run with something and own it?
Our work will now be entering hyperspeed - no time better than now to act.
Hate with respect is admirable :-) - particularly to us experienced souls aware of the effects of complacency.

You can set up a free Karmacoin project at https://projects.zoho.com

You can make it public (or private) and invite other users. If you do, I'll send you my email by PM. (Others can do the same)

That way we can get more organized with tasks and work more efficiently and it's easier to see what people are working on.

If 5 people from this thread want to join, I think we're off to a good start. If you want to set up a project then we've got 2 already. Who else?
full member
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I don't have so much Karmacoin or economy skills but I can try to attract new Spanish people in to the Karma movement, i'll do a post in the Spanish
subforum explaining the goods things of Karmacoin.  Tongue

All can do the same(small or big things), admins, web-designers, bitcoin entusiasts, investers, miners, newbies, try to help Karmacoin, HOW? 
Do some posts in your language subforum, facebook or twitter, create or attracts new services for this great coin, do mining(if you dont know how to start mining, you can send me a pm), help new people to discover the cryptocurrency world, develop new apps for Karmacoin if you know coding or donate to people who need some real help.

If we all contribute something to the community, however small, it is a big step to forge a great community, encourage the "doing good is good" slogan and contribute with the success of this movement. Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Good giveaway news from ecoiner.org
100 KARM giveaway started! Go & Get your 100 KARM
External site: http://ecoiner.org/giveaways/100-karm-karmacoin-giveaway-leave-address-1181/
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How about the dev focuses on the development, the designers and marketers focus on the design and marketing, and other people focus on their respective roles?

I think 5-6 people should do the trick

We need 1 or 2 people given the authority to coordinate and manage this project and make things happen.

Let's get this over 200 satoshi! Together, we can make this happen.

sounds right.
candidate Karmashians?:
El3k0n
ShawnLeary
jtpeters
Alphi
jwcplanet
karmazaki
ptman


If you want, I could do something social-related, I could advertise the coin on different channels and communicate with the community. The only problem is that I live in Italy, so that when I'm awake everyone else of you is asleep.

Understood.   It would be great if you could get new wallets to take advantage of giveaways.  Broaden the community.
If you write the posts - I can set them up in Hootsuite so that they happen during the day.


That would be awesome!
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
How about the dev focuses on the development, the designers and marketers focus on the design and marketing, and other people focus on their respective roles?

I think 5-6 people should do the trick

We need 1 or 2 people given the authority to coordinate and manage this project and make things happen.

Let's get this over 200 satoshi! Together, we can make this happen.

sounds right.
candidate Karmashians?:
El3k0n
ShawnLeary
jtpeters
Alphi
jwcplanet
karmazaki
ptman


If you want, I could do something social-related, I could advertise the coin on different channels and communicate with the community. The only problem is that I live in Italy, so that when I'm awake everyone else of you is asleep.

Understood.   It would be great if you could get new wallets to take advantage of giveaways.  Broaden the community.
If you write the posts - I can set them up in Hootsuite so that they happen during the day.
member
Activity: 109
Merit: 10
USA TRUMP USA TRUMP USA TRUMP
How about the dev focuses on the development, the designers and marketers focus on the design and marketing, and other people focus on their respective roles?

I think 5-6 people should do the trick

We need 1 or 2 people given the authority to coordinate and manage this project and make things happen.

Let's get this over 200 satoshi! Together, we can make this happen.

sounds right.
candidate Karmashians?:
El3k0n
ShawnLeary
jtpeters
Alphi
jwcplanet
karmazaki
ptman


If you want, I could do something social-related, I could advertise the coin on different channels and communicate with the community. The only problem is that I live in Italy, so that when I'm awake everyone else of you is asleep.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
How about the dev focuses on the development, the designers and marketers focus on the design and marketing, and other people focus on their respective roles?

I think 5-6 people should do the trick

We need 1 or 2 people given the authority to coordinate and manage this project and make things happen.

Let's get this over 200 satoshi! Together, we can make this happen.

sounds right.
candidate Karmashians?:
El3k0n
ShawnLeary
jtpeters
Alphi
jwcplanet
karmazaki
ptman


I would love to, but my personality would not be right for this project. I'm far too passionate. I'm the kind of person that needs to take charge. I move too fast and have too little patience for something like Karmacoin where we all need to work together. It's much slower than a directed effort, but we end up happier. Sure, it might end up being the biggest coin because I work tirelessly and never quit but everyone involved would be exhausted and end up hating me for it Smiley

I can only suggest that we get a few logo ideas together and take a survey of our target market. And also regarding the UI of our website. It should not be up to us to decide these things, because we are too close to it. We should design for newcomers to make it as accessible and as easy as possible. "Test all theories"

You seem to have it together.  Why not run with something and own it?
Our work will now be entering hyperspeed - no time better than now to act.
Hate with respect is admirable :-) - particularly to us experienced souls aware of the effects of complacency.
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