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Topic: [ANN][KARM] Karmacoin - New Initiatives - Helping People Do Good - page 57. (Read 352484 times)

legendary
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This is for the video bounty! hope everyone you likes it. took me a couple days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLmYsBZ6RGs


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This should go to the official website into promo section.
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This is for the video bounty! hope everyone you likes it. took me a couple days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLmYsBZ6RGs


Karma wallet - KQHbfctG9dhREoJ8WWf7N8PPL4pxdasNue

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full member
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Network: yesterday 180-210 MHs, today 370-400 MHs

 Cheesy
sr. member
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I can see the genius behind this. Yeah, it's a bold move, granted. I can also see why Kosmost is pulling out all the stops with this one and at the time that he is. There's an unhealthy amount of alts being challenged for continued hashes, attention and buyers/marketshare. Kosmost (I believe) wants to make a strong move and help separate KarmaCoin from the pack with some strong headlines. I have no doubt he has already invested some solid thought and pen to paper as far as how the campaign press release and donations results will read. Although I have not much KarmaCoin, I am going to back this and also mention that I am grateful for Kosmost's tenacity and diligence towards the Girls Scouts Donation Campaign as well as all of his communication invested in the Logo recreation (I like the original Smiley.

The way I look at it...we can go ahead and return to our "normal programming" of your average, garden variety charitable fund drive after this one is completed. I'm not going to over-think it any further.

PLEASE extend the fundraising timeline on this one so that we can gain further attention to it.

200 Thousand sent with more later.
Who's next? 
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It was a tough decision and not everyone will agree. In fact, lots of people won't agree with the choice. They'll say bad karma is coming, and wonder what's happened to our core principles. All of that is to be expected because we are doing what we need to do.

its not the angry punters leaving that I am concerned about.. what concerns me is that by courting controversy you are asking some very powerful people to attack the Karmacoin network directly.

we aren't talking about verbal attacks here... in case you hadn't noticed there is a Cyber cold war going on at the moment. Coins that do not meet a certain standard of legitimacy first get ddossed to death and then if that doesn't work they get forked to death.

having been with KarmaCoin from almost the beginning I have noticed the distinct lack of attacks against the KarmaCoin network. this I put down to the fact that Karma does have some kind of legitimacy/neutrality and so for the most part it has been left alone... but once that legitimacy is lost in the eyes of some powerful people, then it becomes open season on KarmaCoin.

believe me.. if people who don't like it can destabilize the network then they will... and if they do destabilize the network then it will do far more damage than ANY negative publicity.

if you are prepared to take on the challenge of staying awake nights on end patching code to try and defend the network from attacks then by all means go right ahead open pandoras box.

if not then.... take heed of some wise words and try not to throw stones from the front porch of your glass house.


Understood. And I would mostly tend to agree. But there are a lot of "ifs" right now, however. If you or anyone else can think of a better alternative (under the conditions) please feel free to post it here.

If you could also post your reasoning as to why you think it could help us to 1) move the market UP; and 2) help us to increase our public profile, it would certainly help.

It is interesting to say "let's do a campaign to help a homeless family" and, while that is another noble cause, it is not going to save Karmacoin, as unfortunate as it may be. We do not have time to kill, nor the numbers to raise even $100 or $200

This campaign simply buys us an audience of people who can have a chance to hear our story once the noise diminishes. It is a cost-effective way of getting to the point where we can do a drive like Dogecoin and say we raised $40,000 for something.


Priorities

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1) move the market UP

The only way to move the market up is to create a demand for buying KarmaCoin.  You will accomplish this by successfully completing priority (2)

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2) help us to increase our public profile

To do this you will have to harness the emotions of individuals and small groups similar but not exclusive to the Girl Scouts.  How many people do you think they will tell?
Answer: Everyone they know!

Do this a few times and you will have organic growth.

$32 may not see like much but I can assure you that the Girl Scouts appreciated that gesture.  Thousands of people around the world work for a whole month and not even earn $32.

It would be extremely advantageous to find some way for the average person to buy KarmaCoin with fiat currency.  Also contacting genuine charities and helping them to set up a KarmaCoin wallet
so that anyone holding Karmacoin can send them directly.

I would clearly and openly admit that I do not have the perfect answer but would strongly suggest not to include world leaders or any high profile person (unless of course
they would be willing to raise the profile of Karmacoin voluntarily), in an effort to gain the attention of the media and general public.

This is my last comment on this matter.



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I believe this may be the boom we need

 Cheesy
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Creator of the ICO

+1

Build the tower from the ground up.  You cannot build the tower from the sky down  Wink

We are not building towers.

But it's interesting to note that we all had 2+ days to vote and add our own suggestions to the poll, and to the posts regarding the "rocket fuel" PR campaign... and 99% of us did nothing, suggested nothing, voted on nothing, offered nothing.

But now that the campaign is live, we want to change it.

Meanwhile, we are getting more Karma for this at a faster rate than anything else, there is lots of support on the market today, and it's the 1 subject that is making more people talk.

I don't know about you, but this smells like rocket fuel to me.

hero member
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Creator of the ICO
It was a tough decision and not everyone will agree. In fact, lots of people won't agree with the choice. They'll say bad karma is coming, and wonder what's happened to our core principles. All of that is to be expected because we are doing what we need to do.

its not the angry punters leaving that I am concerned about.. what concerns me is that by courting controversy you are asking some very powerful people to attack the Karmacoin network directly.

we aren't talking about verbal attacks here... in case you hadn't noticed there is a Cyber cold war going on at the moment. Coins that do not meet a certain standard of legitimacy first get ddossed to death and then if that doesn't work they get forked to death.

having been with KarmaCoin from almost the beginning I have noticed the distinct lack of attacks against the KarmaCoin network. this I put down to the fact that Karma does have some kind of legitimacy/neutrality and so for the most part it has been left alone... but once that legitimacy is lost in the eyes of some powerful people, then it becomes open season on KarmaCoin.

believe me.. if people who don't like it can destabilize the network then they will... and if they do destabilize the network then it will do far more damage than ANY negative publicity.

if you are prepared to take on the challenge of staying awake nights on end patching code to try and defend the network from attacks then by all means go right ahead open pandoras box.

if not then.... take heed of some wise words and try not to throw stones from the front porch of your glass house.


Understood. And I would mostly tend to agree. But there are a lot of "ifs" right now, however. If you or anyone else can think of a better alternative (under the conditions) please feel free to post it here.

If you could also post your reasoning as to why you think it could help us to 1) move the market UP; and 2) help us to increase our public profile, it would certainly help.

It is interesting to say "let's do a campaign to help a homeless family" and, while that is another noble cause, it is not going to save Karmacoin, as unfortunate as it may be. We do not have time to kill, nor the numbers to raise even $100 or $200

This campaign simply buys us an audience of people who can have a chance to hear our story once the noise diminishes. It is a cost-effective way of getting to the point where we can do a drive like Dogecoin and say we raised $40,000 for something.
sr. member
Activity: 336
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It was a tough decision and not everyone will agree. In fact, lots of people won't agree with the choice. They'll say bad karma is coming, and wonder what's happened to our core principles. All of that is to be expected because we are doing what we need to do.

its not the angry punters leaving that I am concerned about.. what concerns me is that by courting controversy you are asking some very powerful people to attack the Karmacoin network directly.

we aren't talking about verbal attacks here... in case you hadn't noticed there is a Cyber cold war going on at the moment. Coins that do not meet a certain standard of legitimacy first get ddossed to death and then if that doesn't work they get forked to death.

having been with KarmaCoin from almost the beginning I have noticed the distinct lack of attacks against the KarmaCoin network. this I put down to the fact that Karma does have some kind of legitimacy/neutrality and so for the most part it has been left alone... but once that legitimacy is lost in the eyes of some powerful people, then it becomes open season on KarmaCoin.

believe me.. if people who don't like it can destabilize the network then they will... and if they do destabilize the network then it will do far more damage than ANY negative publicity.

if you are prepared to take on the challenge of staying awake nights on end patching code to try and defend the network from attacks then by all means go right ahead open pandoras box.

if not then.... take heed of some wise words and try not to throw stones from the front porch of your glass house.




+1

Build the tower from the ground up.  You cannot build the tower from the sky down  Wink
sr. member
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OK, I can now better understand the bite behind this campaign and once again complement Kosmost for giving a concise synopsis of the reasoning and objective behind it. 
The one aspect of the campaign I would ask about is does this absolutely, positively have to be only a 3 or 4 day blitzkreig campaign? Why not signifcantly longer? 1 billion coins in a few short days collected? Just wondering the reasoning/necessity behind that.

This is it, folks.

The Fundraiser for Vladimir Putin's Anger Management Class

Let's make this happen!

We're looking for 1,000,000,000 Karma or more!

We will announce the result in the media on Tuesday, April 1 or Wednesday, April 2.

Now is our chance for the entire world to learn about Karmacoin and how awesome we are. We can do this!

Donate to: KLHL2wuLEYSmGeEMvWEVr1ck7ehoN9raQt

Karmafund.me
hero member
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It was a tough decision and not everyone will agree. In fact, lots of people won't agree with the choice. They'll say bad karma is coming, and wonder what's happened to our core principles. All of that is to be expected because we are doing what we need to do.

its not the angry punters leaving that I am concerned about.. what concerns me is that by courting controversy you are asking some very powerful people to attack the Karmacoin network directly.

we aren't talking about verbal attacks here... in case you hadn't noticed there is a Cyber cold war going on at the moment. Coins that do not meet a certain standard of legitimacy first get ddossed to death and then if that doesn't work they get forked to death.

having been with KarmaCoin from almost the beginning I have noticed the distinct lack of attacks against the KarmaCoin network. this I put down to the fact that Karma does have some kind of legitimacy/neutrality and so for the most part it has been left alone... but once that legitimacy is lost in the eyes of some powerful people, then it becomes open season on KarmaCoin.

believe me.. if people who don't like it can destabilize the network then they will... and if they do destabilize the network then it will do far more damage than ANY negative publicity.

if you are prepared to take on the challenge of staying awake nights on end patching code to try and defend the network from attacks then by all means go right ahead open pandoras box.

if not then.... take heed of some wise words and try not to throw stones from the front porch of your glass house.
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谁堵墙11.。Who wall 11。 Angry
100+ LTC new buy support. KARM has never been so cheap, if I had any LTC I'd be buying too...

I think 10litoshi buy now help a friend buy
legendary
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Drop it on Twitter !
legendary
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This is it, folks.

The Fundraiser for Vladimir Putin's Anger Management Class

Let's make this happen!

We're looking for 1,000,000,000 Karma or more!

We will announce the result in the media on Tuesday, April 1 or Wednesday, April 2.

Now is our chance for the entire world to learn about Karmacoin and how awesome we are. We can do this!

Donate to: KLHL2wuLEYSmGeEMvWEVr1ck7ehoN9raQt

Karmafund.me

As an April fool joke right?

People this is perfect for Viral marketing!!

Let's add it on Reddit like websites of every country we are from here! Cheesy

Push it to the news and TV!


Up Vote here:  http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/21tj90/fundraiser_for_vladimir_putins_anger_management/


hero member
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Creator of the ICO
We are already getting evidence that this campaign will be successful simply from the number of people who are coming out of the woodwork right now to talk about it  Grin

Yes, it's controversial. And that is exactly what Karmacoin needs right now. We need people talking about Karmacoin, writing about us, smiling and frowning and everything in between. It's hard to swallow but we need people getting upset at us right now, cheering us on, talking about us, because that is what makes the news.

Yes, some people will get upset. Some people will leave Karmacoin. That is to be expected. But our Reddit community is less than 300 people. When the Karmacoin community started getting active on Feb 9th Reddcoin hit 100 subscribers that day. Now they are over 10,000 strong and we haven't even hit 300 yet. (They hit 300 a couple of days after that.)

If 100 people leave Karmacoin because they think it's turning into MoveOn.org, but 10,000 more people join because we are kicking ass.. it's a sacrifice that we should think about making. That's 10,000 more people who will be learning about Karmacoin and telling their friends about what we were doing. That's 100,000+ more people going to the website to find out how crazy we are and then seeing what we are doing, and that it's not so crazy after all. Businesses, people, governments, etc., finding out about how they can use Karmacoin to reward "doing good". The truth is, we don't know. We can only guess.

But let's lay out the reality for a moment, and see what is the most rational course of action.

  • The poll that was conducted 2 days ago got a total of 2 responses. 50% for either option, with no alternate suggestions. (Just to put that into context, 11 people responded to the post regarding the Karmacoin debit card and 6 of those voted the same day it was posted)*
  • We've been talking about a press release to serve as "rocket fuel" for 9 days
  • Amount raised for Putin fund, first 3 hours: 7,376,720. About $9.50
  • Amount raised for Miley Cyrus fund, first 5 hours: 810,000. About $1.00
  • Fund for PR: 3,472,000. About $4.50
  • Logo contest donations: 50,020. About $0.065
  • Donations for dev bounties: 112,400,595 (89% from a single donor). About $146

Further, the campaign for the Girl Scouts raised 25 million over the course of 2 days. That's worth about $32 right now.

It was a tough decision and not everyone will agree. In fact, lots of people won't agree with the choice. They'll say bad karma is coming, and wonder what's happened to our core principles. All of that is to be expected because we are doing what we need to do.

Sure, we could put together a nice fundraising campaign for [insert cause here]. I would love to give to such a cause. But it is not what Karmacoin needs right now. You are welcome to start a campaign and post it to the subreddit. In fact, I'll even post it to the Karmafund website. But ask yourself these two questions:

  • Do you honestly believe that our community, as small as it is now, will donate more than $50 worth of Karmacoin to it?
  • Do you believe that such a campaign is worth putting out a press release for? You'll notice in our first press release I didn't mention how much we raised for the Girl Scouts. Is having a fund that raises the total of $20 really newsworthy?

Let's take an example of how we don't need a more noble cause right now but need more momentum, which will bring more people to our community. Pretty much everyone loves the new logo. Yet, we have not donated more than a few cents for it. (I gladly paid the $300 for it, because I believe in Karmacoin) If we had a larger community we would have been able to put money towards our own logo. This is one example of how having a small community can harm us (maybe even kill us, as lots of altcoins are dying right now).

What we need now is a LARGER community so we can do lots of wonderful things. There is a storm coming from our campaign. It is time to batten down the hatches and stock up, because it's going to be a long couple of weeks. But let's weather out the storm and see what new growth the heavy rains bring us.

We need momentum right now, not a noble cause. And unfortunately, the most cost and time-effective way to do that now is controversy. Controversy raises the profile of Karmacoin, regardless of what the controversy entails. We can't wait for the next Olympics. Unless, of course, you don't mind Karmacoin going down to 4 litoshi. How much will your donation be worth then?

I've said enough.. I'll get back to work on Karmacoin Smiley

*http://karmashare.me/index.php?do=/poll/
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谁堵墙11.。Who wall 11。 Angry
100+ LTC new buy support. KARM has never been so cheap, if I had any LTC I'd be buying too...
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Spot on, please don't do anything political even as a joke. Choose another campaign we can all get behind that is non-controversial with a very reasonable funding obkective. I mean, this one is 1 billion Karma?HuhHuh

"Choose another campaign we can all get behind... "

such as?

we've been discussing this for weeks, now. There were very few suggestions. Our community is currently too small to 'get behind' anything, much less something that all of us can agree on Smiley

We need a bigger community, now. This means greater exposure, now. This means the biggest media push (now).

Again, only 76% of the Dogecoin community supported the Jamaican Bobsled drive.

The only campaigns that would get the greatest number of people behind are likely neutral campaigns that will not get us the exposure that we need now. While they're noble causes, we can certainly save them for later.

We're open to suggestions and action. But, again, we've been talking about a kind of campaign like this for a while now. It is not unexpected.
The idea certainly made me chuckle, and I sort of doubt a PR stunt like this would draw any kind of serious anger from the russian hacker scene. Then again getting political these days is kind of like discussing religion, you're always sure to hurt more people's feelings than expected. And that's certainly not what KARMA is about.

I get the idea is to do something good, but create a attention-grabbing headline while at it. I'm kinda torn about it, but as I can't come up with a better idea, I'll support you with another 1,000,000 KARM.
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Goal starts to be reached. People will talk a lot about this action. We will see some debates, a lot of discussion about that topic.
Brilliant marketing idea  Grin
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See it as a possibility to have way more exposure in medias than just another fundraiser for another war.
It is a catching theme, after you see that 100% of funds goes to children  Smiley
Let's try this way.

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