Topic: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo - An Open, Composable Smart Chain Platform, Secured by B - page 121. (Read 1192381 times)

sure some hours of mining were lost due to the condition the coin was released. is that really a big deal compared to what was discovered?

anyway a 4 million coin premine and 128 coin block reward isnt Greed? that is what you are going with? and kicking me out is an open community?

So you are saying your actions were honest and correct?

Great way to further crypto ICOs dev

For fucks sake

Who doesnt like coins? Is it wrong to mine SAFE?

Anyway, your constant badgering just makes me upset. As it is now all the notary mining is stopped and my fix to the diff issue that actually works without any forking or rollback is rapidly reducing the diff.

Just dont forget to add all the GPL notices that are required and dont make false claims about making improvements when you are just copy pasting and changing "komodo" to "safecoin". That alone might cause some problems in some areas but I have no mood to review the code for you

Also try to not deploy halfway forks with 1.5 year old fixes unactivated and if you are claiming dPoW then maybe having some notaries notarizing is a good idea? As it is you have no notarizations and the longest chain rule is in effect.

good luck, stop pestering me with complaints about some lost hours of mining. I saved your coin by finding this when it is just being mined. If I didnt, someone else would have after it was trading and the results would have been far worse

if what you post here would be true i would call you a Crypto Angle, all that Help that you provided to cure the Sick Child Safecoin. I think there are Screenshot that clearly show that this is NOT the full Story. I understand that you want to backup a bit from what happend, since it looks shady. By the Way if there would be no Damange done to Safecoin, we would not have this heated Discussion ongoing, correct?
Does Safecoin has Code to fix? For Sure. But what i really love about Safecoin, there is no Greed and a very open Community. (i NEVER saw a WTS Message in Discrod)

You posted the Genesis Notaries yourself so that people could mine SAFE... Do you think this is something the dev of a coin who raised $2 million through an ICO should do?

Fork all my years of coding, make false claims about improving it and yes, the author might react in an emotional way, cuz you know being human.

Also you seem to think that how a blockchain will react when the code is in a strange state is somehow easy to figure out. It isnt. Blockchains are very complex and you really need to know what you are doing.

I just started notary mining as the coin said I could. I did not remember all the fixes made along the way and what would happen. looking at the code I thought maybe the notary mining might not even work, there was only one way to find out. What harm to mine some blocks?

Anyway, I explain in detail in my wall of text post, which apparently you did not read.

and $2 million was raised not $200 million, you are confusing marketcap with funds raised

Your words now and what you posted on your own slack channel do not gel together.

You posted the Genesis Notaries so that people could mine SAFE and others posted that they would set up a server to make it easier.

Just saying...

For the hundredth time, no hashrate was purchased. The SAFE code is a cut and paste, including the KMD notary pubkeys. Anybody can mine without restrictions to those addresses and without the height activated fixes being activated, the prevention of this is inactive.

I did not realize this when I started notary mining as it was fixed over 1.5 years ago in KMD, but still alive in SAFE.

So you admit that you attacked another coin with known exploits in order to prove a point.


Are these the proper actions of a person who has raised $200 million to further blockchain technology?


If so... all crypto is shit

Really, we raised $200 million? Wow, my records show it was more like $2 million. We must live in different universes.

You are calling me a hacker now?

The net effect is that I ended up demonstrating critical issues in the half-fork that is called SAFE, with no forking of the chain and no coins lost. And I provided many hours of detailed technical advice, which appears to be mostly ignored as I didnt see any height based activation in the release that was pushed out. You will end up forking a chain that wasnt forked by pushing out a change without an activation height.

SAFE is no competition, SAFE is like a vulnerable little child that doesnt know not to stick his fingers into electric sockets. I try to help by my actions. If you actually thought beyond a few days mining rewards you will understand that.

My "stomp" was inadvertent, but it ends up exposing that none of the critical bugfixes over the history are activated in SAFE and there is no notarization and no dPoW active at all. Making false claims of improvements over my baseline, does make me emotional. Sorry, I seem to be human.

However, I did not fork the chain, no coins were lost. Critical vulnerabilities were found and I spent hours trying to help, but ignored and criticized.

The safe developers are trying to fix the issue.

I would like to reiterate that the ICO for Komodo netted around $200 million. Do you think a coin (company) that is supposed to be a good Stewart of technology and further the  blockchain into mainstream acceptability should engage in this high school hacker nonsense?  

Aren't they supposed to be nothing but professionals?

A fork that claims to make improvements but in fact was just a halfway copy and paste fork. It did not even have all the height based features (bug fixes) activated.

When notary mining was done it combined with the long ago fixed bug that didnt limit the number of blocks a notary can get. So the diff started going up. Mining was stopped when the diff was at 100 million, which is far less than the 10 billion (or trillions) the diff would have gone to. It was a high level, but nothing life threatening.

The chain was never forked. No coins were lost. Mining was proceeding, just at a higher diff so slower. When it became clear that changes were being proposed that would create a fork, when no fork was even there in the first place, I spent hours trying to help by giving detailed instructions on how to fix it. Even after I was booted from their discord.

However, it seems they ignored my detailed instructions on how to get their codebase to activate all the height based features/bug fixes and it seems they pushed forward with an ineffective fix to the high diff. They claim they improved dPoW, but they dont have any notarization active, so it isnt protected by notarizations. That means the longest chain rule is in effect and if they did in fact push forward with the forking change, it will likely create a pretty big mess.

So, they claim to be a komodo fork, but really at this point it is half a fork as they dont have the fundamental dPoW implemented. I was willing to help and did spent hours trying to help, but it seems their community is all hostile at me. Now implied threats are being made at me.

I do hope they will stop misrepresenting what they are adding, like they are claiming to be working on a DEX. I dont mind an honest fork, but when the claimed improvement to dPoW is to have cut and pasted all the KMD notaries, there is a clear disconnect between the claims and reality.

Also there is past history here where safecoin initially didnt even acknowledge it used forked komodo code. I had to complain to them about that. Now they claimed they improved on dPoW and are working on a DEX, when so far it is just a copy paste with string changes.

You mean that story?

Dont do a halfway fork (literally) and claim to have made improvements. SAFE has a lot of vulnerabilities as it is basically very early KMD during the testnet days as dPoW was being debugged. All the KMD height specific triggers for activations were just copied.

So in the current state SAFE is not a full KMD fork and if you dont do it properly, it is not a good thing. This was demonstrated in a way that didnt create a fork, didnt lose any coins and would have self-repaired. I do admit the prior history and the misrepresentations made did not make me feel keen to help them at first, but when they start to propose breaking a chain that isnt broken I stepped in.

Then I am pushed out because all the miners are mad at losing several hours of mining. While there are pretty severe vulnerabilities active and exposed. Including the attack vectors that the blackhat hit KMD with early last year that are also height triggered. But the day's mining rewards are more important to the miners.

Anyway, it was a long day, I squeezed in all that in between and after my normal busy day. If you are buying SAFE thinking it is a KMD fork, I think it is important to know the technical facts. I will let you decide what a 4 million coin premine (of 36 million) and a 128 block reward means. As far as their claims to be working on a DEX, i didnt see any code but maybe they are writing something totally from scratch. They did fork agama also, at least it looked like it.

My problem is not with their forking, but with the misrepresentation of what they have added, along with the halfway-ness that makes it vulnerable.

If anybody else wants to fork KMD, that is fine. You can ask for help and if you are an honest fork, I will help. If you are not, then I will call you out. I might even demonstrate that you are making false claims. If there is past history that makes me a bit upset at the second "violation", then I might push a bit more than otherwise.

That's the story. I seem to have acted a bit more emotionally than I would normally as this is a very personal issue for me. As it is now the SAFE chain can likely be killed (by many different people, even those not so skilled, as the past issues are well documented) and likely I am one of the few that can help them to fix things properly. However I do not like being made out to be some bad actor by short sighted miners and SAFE team members. SAFE chain right now is not traded anywhere, only being mined. When exactly is the right time to assess a chain's safety? All this is very complex and you cant just look at the code and know precisely what would happen, that's why they are called bugs.

At this point I am not sure what to do and I am open to community suggestions. On the one hand it is sad that the first KMD fork is in the state it is in and I would like to have it use code and bugfixes over the last 1.5 years. On the other hand I am pretty busy and considering their past behavior and the constant attacks on me for the tough love approach I took, well it is not easy to stay in the helping mood while the majority of interactions are personal attacks on my character.

so what do you say about all the hacking out there Mt Gox, equifax etc, ? that the hacker cannot handle competition?  Are you safecoin fanboy?

if safecoin team can't recover from this, i suggest they find another job lol

They are working on it. But what does this say about Komodo team when they cant take having competition and decide to stomp on the small guys.

So safecoin developers cannot fix this issue? what does that say about safecoin team?

Brings 90 Msol hash onto a 0.3 msol net hash coin and wrecks all the small miners on that coin. Now its totally cool and normal. Guess that says a lot about komodo Team mindset

Let's just say that there are screenshots from their Slack group that can't be posted right now because people could use them to further exploit SAFE.

But there are screenshots.

Damn I hate the living shit out of ICOs.

Dude is probably living like a sultan on high right now.