Topic: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo - An Open, Composable Smart Chain Platform, Secured by B - page 785. (Read 1191996 times)
October 22, 2016, 10:51:11 AM
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October 21, 2016, 07:41:43 PM
On the knomodo election site is says positions for Europe have been filled, but how can they be filled before the election has happened?
there are currently more nodes in europe than everywhere else combined. So that means the election process will be very competitive. You are certainly free to become a candidate in Europe, but better to run unopposed anywhere else.we get more geodiversity and you would have a much higher chance of being elected
understood, thanks james
October 21, 2016, 04:17:10 PM
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To reduce risk, Zcash has designed a multi-player protocol where pubkey will be generated. The protocol has the property that privkey now corresponds to the concatenation of all participants' secret randomness. Thus, privkey will be destroyed unless all of the participants are dishonest or compromised.
Might I enquirer as to who the participants will be? Will it be the three ICO fund holders or others? Also how do you (will you) prove that the priv key is destroyed, or rather even easier just one piece of it? Is this done on camera? or will witnesses be present?
[Not trolling, just really interested]
Hello!
Like previously stated, we won't create those parameters ourselves, but rather use the parameters created by Zcash. We could never do the process as securely as they do.
October 21, 2016, 04:13:00 PM
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To reduce risk, Zcash has designed a multi-player protocol where pubkey will be generated. The protocol has the property that privkey now corresponds to the concatenation of all participants' secret randomness. Thus, privkey will be destroyed unless all of the participants are dishonest or compromised.
Might I enquirer as to who the participants will be? Will it be the three ICO fund holders or others? Also how do you (will you) prove that the priv key is destroyed, or rather even easier just one piece of it? Is this done on camera? or will witnesses be present?
[Not trolling, just really interested]
October 21, 2016, 03:38:18 PM
October 21, 2016, 02:24:04 PM
there is a small chance that this testnet can become the actual mainnet
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
Would this mean that a genesis block has already been created? And how does this effect the trusted setup argument?
Thanks.
And if there is such a collusion and it is used to inflate the currency supply, it will be discovered and ALL the participants would be found out that they colluded. Also, market value of zcash will plummet, so it seems that smart people wouldnt collude together to be exposed as a colluding group, even if they were unethical and open to stealing.
Does anybody really believe that Matt Green, et. all will all be colluding to steal zcash? ALL of them? knowing that if they utilize the ability to steal the coins that they will be caught and that there is no doubt as to who did the stealing?
Because of this I do not worry about the trusted setup argument
I guess I just don't quite understand. " The genesis block is unrelated to zcash parameters"
My thinking is getting hung up on this statement.
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if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
I assumed reset the chain meant create a new genesis block, as wouldn't a "chain" imply it is using a genesis block. Is the testnet chain using a genesis block?
Thanks for the clarity.
If we reset the chain, we will likely change the genesis block, but that is independent as you can reset the chain (start over from genesis) without changing the genesis.
My last comment.
Is the komodo genesis block bullet proof? Ie: are there future arguments that someone could make that it wasn't done in a fair or transparent manner? I've read somewhere that setting up the genesis block for zcash style system would need assurances that the (master key?) be properly destroyed. What assurances does komodo community have that the genesis block + master key was and or will be setup correctly? I believe that I understand the colluding arg, (all participants would have to be corrupt) is that the assurance? Can you elaborate on the process used to create the genesis block and the handling of the master key. (Who are the people with the M K, the notaries?)
Thanks
Edit. Heres where my info came from
https://forum.z.cash/t/trusted-setup-phase/68/4
https://m.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3p31lj/wait_so_with_zerocash_you_have_to_trust_a_third/
there is no "master key", it only exists if all the parameter creators collude.
to avoid any such issues, we will just use the same parameters as zcash
the notaries have nothing to do with the zcash parameters
October 21, 2016, 02:14:49 PM
there is a small chance that this testnet can become the actual mainnet
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
Would this mean that a genesis block has already been created? And how does this effect the trusted setup argument?
Thanks.
And if there is such a collusion and it is used to inflate the currency supply, it will be discovered and ALL the participants would be found out that they colluded. Also, market value of zcash will plummet, so it seems that smart people wouldnt collude together to be exposed as a colluding group, even if they were unethical and open to stealing.
Does anybody really believe that Matt Green, et. all will all be colluding to steal zcash? ALL of them? knowing that if they utilize the ability to steal the coins that they will be caught and that there is no doubt as to who did the stealing?
Because of this I do not worry about the trusted setup argument
I guess I just don't quite understand. " The genesis block is unrelated to zcash parameters"
My thinking is getting hung up on this statement.
Quote
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
I assumed reset the chain meant create a new genesis block, as wouldn't a "chain" imply it is using a genesis block. Is the testnet chain using a genesis block?
Thanks for the clarity.
If we reset the chain, we will likely change the genesis block, but that is independent as you can reset the chain (start over from genesis) without changing the genesis.
My last comment.
Is the komodo genesis block bullet proof? Ie: are there future arguments that someone could make that it wasn't done in a fair or transparent manner? I've read somewhere that setting up the genesis block for zcash style system would need assurances that the (master key?) be properly destroyed. What assurances does komodo community have that the genesis block + master key was and or will be setup correctly? I believe that I understand the colluding arg, (all participants would have to be corrupt) is that the assurance? Can you elaborate on the process used to create the genesis block and the handling of the master key. (Who are the people with the M K, the notaries?)
Thanks
Edit. Heres where my info came from
https://forum.z.cash/t/trusted-setup-phase/68/4
https://m.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3p31lj/wait_so_with_zerocash_you_have_to_trust_a_third/
October 21, 2016, 02:13:49 PM
What calculation is made for the predicted balance?
October 21, 2016, 01:40:12 PM
How many more notaries you need?
How many can be hosted by the same person?
I am thinking back and forth about helping out, but I don't like the idea that I might be investing money and time to set up one or multiple notaries and then be voted out by dolphins and whales for no other reason then they wanting to host the notary themselves. Any assurance?
How many can be hosted by the same person?
I am thinking back and forth about helping out, but I don't like the idea that I might be investing money and time to set up one or multiple notaries and then be voted out by dolphins and whales for no other reason then they wanting to host the notary themselves. Any assurance?
There will be total of 64 notary nodes. It looks like there are currently 18 persons running in the election. It is crowded in EU, but I think there's still free space in the other regions.
You can run 4 notary nodes max, one in each region.
The investors want to elect those who they know to be capable of running a node. For that we encourage everyone to run a test notery node, join #notarynode channel for more info
Also here are some useful links:
Setup Komodo Notary Node https://github.com/SuperNETorg/komodo/wiki/Setup-Komodo-Notary-Node
https://www.komodoelection.com/
https://steemit.com/komodo/@komodoplatform/notary-node-elections
https://steemit.com/komodo/@komodoplatform/komodo-zcash-pow-with-dpow-consensus-mechanism
https://komodoplatform.useresponse.com/topic/can-you-give-me-information-about-the-notary-nodes-election-process
https://komodoplatform.useresponse.com/knowledge-base/article/do-we-need-to-have-the-dedicated-server-already-in-place-for-the-vote-or-is-it-enough-to-describe-the-server-which-will-be-ordered-after-a-successful-candidacy
October 21, 2016, 01:26:21 PM
How many more notaries you need?
How many can be hosted by the same person?
I am thinking back and forth about helping out, but I don't like the idea that I might be investing money and time to set up one or multiple notaries and then be voted out by dolphins and whales for no other reason then they wanting to host the notary themselves. Any assurance?
max of 4 by same person, one per regionHow many can be hosted by the same person?
I am thinking back and forth about helping out, but I don't like the idea that I might be investing money and time to set up one or multiple notaries and then be voted out by dolphins and whales for no other reason then they wanting to host the notary themselves. Any assurance?
from what I can tell, most whales wont bother with running notary nodes, but rather would just vote for the established testnet notaries who have proven they know what they are doing.
So I cant guarantee that you will be elected, but if you dont run a test node i dont think you would get many votes. What a lot of notaries that want to run multiple notaries is to get one of them working during the testnet and then they can run as candidate for multiple slots
October 21, 2016, 01:00:02 PM
How many more notaries you need?
How many can be hosted by the same person?
I am thinking back and forth about helping out, but I don't like the idea that I might be investing money and time to set up one or multiple notaries and then be voted out by dolphins and whales for no other reason then they wanting to host the notary themselves. Any assurance?
How many can be hosted by the same person?
I am thinking back and forth about helping out, but I don't like the idea that I might be investing money and time to set up one or multiple notaries and then be voted out by dolphins and whales for no other reason then they wanting to host the notary themselves. Any assurance?
October 21, 2016, 12:18:37 PM
there is a small chance that this testnet can become the actual mainnet
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
Would this mean that a genesis block has already been created? And how does this effect the trusted setup argument?
Thanks.
And if there is such a collusion and it is used to inflate the currency supply, it will be discovered and ALL the participants would be found out that they colluded. Also, market value of zcash will plummet, so it seems that smart people wouldnt collude together to be exposed as a colluding group, even if they were unethical and open to stealing.
Does anybody really believe that Matt Green, et. all will all be colluding to steal zcash? ALL of them? knowing that if they utilize the ability to steal the coins that they will be caught and that there is no doubt as to who did the stealing?
Because of this I do not worry about the trusted setup argument
I guess I just don't quite understand. " The genesis block is unrelated to zcash parameters"
My thinking is getting hung up on this statement.
Quote
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
I assumed reset the chain meant create a new genesis block, as wouldn't a "chain" imply it is using a genesis block. Is the testnet chain using a genesis block?
Thanks for the clarity.
If we reset the chain, we will likely change the genesis block, but that is independent as you can reset the chain (start over from genesis) without changing the genesis.
October 21, 2016, 12:10:25 PM
there is a small chance that this testnet can become the actual mainnet
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
Would this mean that a genesis block has already been created? And how does this effect the trusted setup argument?
Thanks.
And if there is such a collusion and it is used to inflate the currency supply, it will be discovered and ALL the participants would be found out that they colluded. Also, market value of zcash will plummet, so it seems that smart people wouldnt collude together to be exposed as a colluding group, even if they were unethical and open to stealing.
Does anybody really believe that Matt Green, et. all will all be colluding to steal zcash? ALL of them? knowing that if they utilize the ability to steal the coins that they will be caught and that there is no doubt as to who did the stealing?
Because of this I do not worry about the trusted setup argument
I guess I just don't quite understand. " The genesis block is unrelated to zcash parameters"
My thinking is getting hung up on this statement.
Quote
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
I assumed reset the chain meant create a new genesis block, as wouldn't a "chain" imply it is using a genesis block. Is the testnet chain using a genesis block?
Thanks for the clarity.
October 21, 2016, 08:49:40 AM
We are past the block 34000 hardfork and also it looks like all the crashes and mining issues are solved.
I found a little complication I need to solve in addition to the 5% APR, but since the 5% APR will be another hardfork best to leave that till next week. I think I see how to do it, but prefer to have a more general approach that will apply to PAX.
So, dont worry if there arent many updates over the weekend. We have dPoW aware komodod and iguana notary dapp both running. The 5% APR is totally independent of dPoW, but it is part of the BTCD coin parameters.
I found a little complication I need to solve in addition to the 5% APR, but since the 5% APR will be another hardfork best to leave that till next week. I think I see how to do it, but prefer to have a more general approach that will apply to PAX.
So, dont worry if there arent many updates over the weekend. We have dPoW aware komodod and iguana notary dapp both running. The 5% APR is totally independent of dPoW, but it is part of the BTCD coin parameters.
October 21, 2016, 08:45:04 AM
there is a small chance that this testnet can become the actual mainnet
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
Would this mean that a genesis block has already been created? And how does this effect the trusted setup argument?
Thanks.
And if there is such a collusion and it is used to inflate the currency supply, it will be discovered and ALL the participants would be found out that they colluded. Also, market value of zcash will plummet, so it seems that smart people wouldnt collude together to be exposed as a colluding group, even if they were unethical and open to stealing.
Does anybody really believe that Matt Green, et. all will all be colluding to steal zcash? ALL of them? knowing that if they utilize the ability to steal the coins that they will be caught and that there is no doubt as to who did the stealing?
Because of this I do not worry about the trusted setup argument
October 21, 2016, 08:41:53 AM
there is a small chance that this testnet can become the actual mainnet
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
It means moon, thanks.
October 21, 2016, 08:37:10 AM
there is a small chance that this testnet can become the actual mainnet
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
Would this mean that a genesis block has already been created? And how does this effect the trusted setup argument?
Thanks.
October 21, 2016, 06:56:04 AM
there is a small chance that this testnet can become the actual mainnet
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
it was a very remote chance before, but now there are just the bugfixes and the 5% APR left to add
if we can get that and also verify that election ratification works, then there is no need to reset the chain
still a lot of if's, just wanted to post about the increasing chances. what I like about it is that it rewards the people who have been helping the test process. it also makes the mainnet a bit more secure as it starts with an established history.
It would also make KMD the longest running zero knowledge blockchain
October 21, 2016, 05:28:46 AM
On the knomodo election site is says positions for Europe have been filled, but how can they be filled before the election has happened?
there are currently more nodes in europe than everywhere else combined. So that means the election process will be very competitive. You are certainly free to become a candidate in Europe, but better to run unopposed anywhere else.we get more geodiversity and you would have a much higher chance of being elected
October 21, 2016, 05:20:51 AM
Komodo Dev Blog: dPoW Progress Report: It Is Working!
Tweet : https://twitter.com/KomodoPlatform/status/789394355588993024
Reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/komodoplatform/comments/58mbdo/komodo_dev_blog_dpow_progress_report_it_is_working/
Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/KomodoPlatform/posts/350284958651415
News SuperNET : http://news.supernet.org/posts/mH2sWBAoS37onCDYp/komodo-dev-blog-dpow-progress-report-it-is-working
Reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/komodoplatform/comments/58mbdo/komodo_dev_blog_dpow_progress_report_it_is_working/
Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/KomodoPlatform/posts/350284958651415
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