Topic: [ANN][LIBERTYCOIN][XLB] X11 | 100% POS |*NEW*OFFICIAL*COMMUNITY THREAD - page 2. (Read 16686 times)

No name change (that's up to Templar77)  and we no longer have anything to do with Libertycoin developments. Any assets we created with our own BTC will not be part of XLB. 

Templar77 has decided he wants to "keep his baby" and released a new wallet up date the caused orphans and forks on the exchanges and peoples wallets. Templar77 said "your are sheep and do my work". Wrong. We worked on this for over a month and spent BTC to save and run the coin. Templar77 was even offered a buyout. Refused. Myself and others decided that rather than help templar77 destroy it we would relent and switch to his wallet. Myself and a few others also decided to start our own coin. This would be a wholly new coin with nothing to do with XLB what so ever. It wont conflict with it. Libertycoin is still alive and in templar77's control. You can buy and sell your coins as long as you use his wallet. They value crash because of templar77's fork causing update. It's well documented when he did it and the ensuing chaos. The fate of XLB rest solely in his hands now.

We will indeed. 

Please post here information about the new coin.  I'm divested from XLB now and don't think I'll be coming back.

I like you guys.  I want to stay with this excellent team. They come through with their promises.

Thanks for the fun uprising.  It was good while it lasted.

Khazoo is heading a happier place: http://youtu.be/SYj_kwMGpR4

Khazoo out

My advice is for anyone and everyone to switch to this new wallet of Templar77 - aka Libertycoin so the coins can still be traded or used etc. We will be considering to Launch a new coin that has no connection to Templar77.  Do this before you move your coins from exchanges or to them.

I dont understand this? are you saying we will be able to use our existing coins? or can we swap out existing coins for your new coin?

BTW. This fork is very real.


as can be seen by the XLB multipool.

As wel have tons of infostructure with Libertycoin I woiuld more like to keep a name like LibertyCash so we can still use all the sites, domain, etc while still keeping them from Templar77. This name will also work well with zerocash as a sort of tie in. New logos and new launch. My thoughts would be for 5mil coin in pow x-11 scrypt with increasing block payouts so all can get blocks even if later. pos at 5% would start halfway through pow. 10 million coins max in pos at 5%. This would launch with Android wallet, Mac, Windows, Facebook Tipping app, Both Libertycoins twitter and it's own Libertycash twitter and FB pages, Rich list, Explorer. Depends on when we launch it it would have Zerocash/coin as well. If any development actually came out of Templar77's coin he would work for us as it would be an easy port if we wanted (pretty much same code)it. Thats my general thought on a new launch. This would all be open to ideas and suggestions from everyone.


At launch or just after zerocoin/cash imp. any and all Libertycoin devs we made would also be repointed to this and renamed appropriately. We instruct everyone to switch their current xlbs to temps wallet to dump. we give this a week or two before our launch. We already have the githud sourse so we just copy again with changes and reset x-11 mining and total coins

I know.  Its the most drastic thing I could think of.  Is there a precedent for this sort of situation?  Has it been done before successfully? 

I just want to move forward, add value, increase confidence, add features, build infrastructure and demand. 

Templar77, you can't expect the community to trust you now surely!! That would take an extremely concerted effort of dilligence, communication and complete openness/honesty. I think that would be akin to asking a Lion to become a vegetarian.

If you do have a plan, and intend on getting the coin on track that would be great ( a bloody miracle based on your past behavior), but you can't steal from someone, then expect them to trust you.

I like the idea and would suport it, however the reality is more complicated.

Changing the name means, you are launching a new coin...with all the coins minted. No exchange will add your renamed coin just like that. Especialy when the original coin is still there.

Creating a new coin from 0 is the best option. I would be interested in that as well, if it's possible to make a serious team.

What a scumbag.  Sure he planned to lose control of Libertycoin by making everyone think he's an incompetent lazy liar with delusions of awesomeness. 

Are you guys sheep?  Are we sheep?  I'm not.

How can I help?  All options are on the table.  Let's fork so hard we rename the coin.  How about Freedomcoin? -Raise the POS and allow Libertycoins in but none come back out.  I would happy to go nuclear on that turd.

not sure. may be as templar77 has floated a new wallet. more likely is an exchange has wallet in cold storage.

Hi
Thanks for your response
can you check this
Status: 2636 confirmations
Date: 05/07/2014 22:03
To: Mintpal LZCcCn3sQywCamMn89jiTChKNa68VP2eyF
Debit: -50000.00 XLB
Transaction fee: -0.00033 XLB
Net amount: -50000.00033 XLB
Transaction ID: 78359d0c03f88701391b3ad29213e182960e7548b5689a4992976133dbffe2b2
This is the message from Mintpal
The transaction doesn't appear in the block explorer.
http://libertycoin.co/crawler/
Did you update to the community takeover version? We have not updated ourselves so any transactions made with that version will not work.
thanks

They are bullshitting you if they said that. So have many others. We also tested on Bittrex and Poloniex. The xlb multipool is on new wallet and buys coins from those exchanges and then pays the miners. Worked several times no problem.  I have sent and received coins from Mintpal using the community wallet. The source code is a copy with some mods to it. It not forked and actually uses the same exact network of wallets. So the old wallet and new wallet still see the same transactions. When the ano feature and pos change go then folks will have to commit to the new or old one as that will be a hard fork.

We where looking at 2-3% change with the next ano implementation. We are looking at sometime in August or early Sept.

What did you have in mind?  2% or 3% or 1.776%? We need to have some kind of consensus on that or its just like the Central Banks.  I'm not opposed to the idea. 

I would start with sharing the transaction details with the community.

 I sent Mintpal coins but they have said it failed because i used the community takeover version
any ideas of how i can get my coins back ?

Can we have a higher PoS% interest please?

Android wallet is starting to look good.