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GUYS TO CLARIFY, LISK AI IS NOT ONLINE, IT IS ONLY A CONCEPT. MY TEAM IS WORKING ON IT BUT THE LISKA ACCOUNT IS JUST A CONCEPT

ai seems quite a lofty goal. is this something that would be built from scratch or is there an ai engine that could be integrated into your app?

We'll be doing talks with Mike and see where we could start. We need a proper plan before getting there.
We're currently conceptualizing what it should be able to do, and what it shouldn't do.

Wouldn't want to make skynet eh

Thanks, Emerge, for including me in this. I really look forward to working with you and your team. Your initiative in taking a lead in dapp creation is fantastic.

The P2P Automated Transport and Storage Dapp I've posted at https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=29 will actually evolve into much more than just a decentralized dispatch system for delivery drones. It will become a decentralized AI. What one vehicle sees, they all see. What one learns, they all learn, to become ever more capable of navigating around obstacles, avoiding collisions, and keeping a distance from hijackers looking to steal cargo or sabotage the vehicles. Tesla has already started doing this with its self driving cars, http://fortune.com/2015/12/21/elon-musk-interview/ .

Obviously, a malevolent AI in this role could do a lot of damage, and it could be used by a proprietary owner to exert a huge amount of control over its users and the economy in general. I have written an article which was posted on the Chain of Things blog describing some of where this is headed, http://www.chainofthings.com/publications/2016/2/23/interview-with-mike-doty-founder-of-bitseed . A great movie to see this scenario in action is I Robot, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL6RRIOZyCM (Alex Proyas is my favorite director). Goodyear is already looking at doing the spherical tires, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFYwDDVgac&feature=youtu.be .

Now, with Lisk, we have the opportunity to build this AI system as an open source, transparent network which is owned and controlled by the users.

I love you guys!  Kiss

Someone mentioned this Twitter AI Bot on Github earlier. Perhaps you can use it to build the AI Dapp on Lisk:

https://github.com/muffinista/chatterbot

I'll be anxiously awaiting your updates on this AI Dapp!

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Liska says "My body is Ready"


  This is  a talented group here...LOLOLOL

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She is hot but she could have bigger tits IMO.

Hey boys!

I've been taking my beauty sleep in anticipation for the big launch...

Cannabanana: How dare you record my private lap dance & post it here without my permission  Tongue

Calabi–Yau: and you could have bigger you know what...  Wink

You'll hear more from me as the big launch approaches  Kiss

ps. Liskman is very handsome

-Liska xoxo

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Think or swim.
How can I buy lisk coin for other sellers here if I don't have lisk address?
RFB: I want to make profit before it launches
Places like YoBit are selling I.O.U.'s
there's probably 4 or 5 exchanges doing this
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just for fun....
Any guesses on what the re-branded GUI name will be?

What re-branded GUI ?
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How can I buy lisk coin for other sellers here if I don't have lisk address?
RFB: I want to make profit before it launches
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Think or swim.
just for fun....
Any guesses on what the re-branded GUI name will be?
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In My opinion let Lisk to come out, just remember the selfie stick was invented by an asian guy in the 80's 90's and was a totally failure, but what about a few years ago? It was the hit, some projects have to find the right people, the right time, with the right opportunity, at this point is 50-50 and time will decide what is going to happen! So ETH, Lisk and others honestly they still in development, it was impossible to take out this from apple and android or others, now doesnt seems like that. Lets leave room for imovation, WE CANT ASK TESLA TO REVEAL HIS 2018 MODEL RIGHT? also the last model was sold just with a promise that the car will be the real deal, then they reveal it then they sold in a weekend over 200 million dollars. We are indifferent times.
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"That's just like, your opinion, man."

Simple "shitcoin" would not received $6 millions of investments Grin
I like this project and I hope it does well, but the amount of money invested isn't the only thing that determines success of a project. I mean, just look at some of the projects on Kickstarter. There have been projects with tons of money thrown at them that completely bombed due to the simple fact that the team developing the product was incompetent. Look past the hype/FUD if you have the time and check the strength of the community, competence of the developers, and potential in the idea itself. Those are the three main things I'm looking for at least.
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LISK could be closing the project to re-launch a third one and you idiots would still crowdfund it.

And it's not just LISK, people are doing similar shit with ''The DAO'' for Ethereum at the moment. Jumping in, hoping for the moon, not understanding what the fuck it is about.

''Launch in September, we'll have killer apps by then''.

No you fucking won't. Show me one ''killer'' app that's under development.

"Javascript dapp will be huge"

Please tell me how. You tell the average joe right now how a decentralised app is going to rock his world. A new paradigm. Bla bla. Give me a few GOOD reasons why dapps are so revolutionary that Lisk is the next unicorm. They're not. No one needs dapps. No one gives a shit. Smart contracts is more where it's at.

Untill I read your last two sentences, I was like : That much wisdom from a newbie account  Shocked
I totally agree with you that people do no research whatsoever when investing. It's just a crapshoot hoping to get in on that get rich quick project that may never come.
On the other hand , what is it that makes you believe that smart contracts is the game changer?
There's nothing smart about smart contracts, it's just about verifying a certain set of rules. The issue is that in order to verify something you most certainly need an external source of information which will likely cause centralisation anyway. 

This ICO and DAO hype is vaporware and shitcoin 2.0 all over again. Anyone with some knowledge of  blockchain can draft a new revolutionary platform while in the end it'll be just as different from the existing platforms as those 500+ shitcoins are different from bitcoin.

My advise to anyone: Before investing in anything, compare these offerings to what happens in the business world. Companies that get +1 M$ in their series A round have a way better risk/reward ratio than anything you'll find in crypto. 

Those that are around long enough have seen this all before, some dev promising the

To me personally all this vaporware is the main reason why blockchain is not getting it's break through as expected through public chains but will need the legacy companies to adopt the blockchain first and hope enough tricles down to enforce some success for the public chains. Reality will probably be more nuanced but you get my point.






Simple "shitcoin" would not received $6 millions of investments Grin
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DAG, Built-in Chat and Conditional Payments
We should change the title of this thread to Lisk Trollbox

Better to keep that way, at least nobody pollutes the Lisk Chat. Grin
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DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
LISK could be closing the project to re-launch a third one and you idiots would still crowdfund it.

And it's not just LISK, people are doing similar shit with ''The DAO'' for Ethereum at the moment. Jumping in, hoping for the moon, not understanding what the fuck it is about.

''Launch in September, we'll have killer apps by then''.

No you fucking won't. Show me one ''killer'' app that's under development.

"Javascript dapp will be huge"

Please tell me how. You tell the average joe right now how a decentralised app is going to rock his world. A new paradigm. Bla bla. Give me a few GOOD reasons why dapps are so revolutionary that Lisk is the next unicorm. They're not. No one needs dapps. No one gives a shit. Smart contracts is more where it's at.

Untill I read your last two sentences, I was like : That much wisdom from a newbie account  Shocked
I totally agree with you that people do no research whatsoever when investing. It's just a crapshoot hoping to get in on that get rich quick project that may never come.
On the other hand , what is it that makes you believe that smart contracts is the game changer?
There's nothing smart about smart contracts, it's just about verifying a certain set of rules. The issue is that in order to verify something you most certainly need an external source of information which will likely cause centralisation anyway. 

This ICO and DAO hype is vaporware and shitcoin 2.0 all over again. Anyone with some knowledge of  blockchain can draft a new revolutionary platform while in the end it'll be just as different from the existing platforms as those 500+ shitcoins are different from bitcoin.

My advise to anyone: Before investing in anything, compare these offerings to what happens in the business world. Companies that get +1 M$ in their series A round have a way better risk/reward ratio than anything you'll find in crypto. 

Those that are around long enough have seen this all before, some dev promising the

To me personally all this vaporware is the main reason why blockchain is not getting it's break through as expected through public chains but will need the legacy companies to adopt the blockchain first and hope enough tricles down to enforce some success for the public chains. Reality will probably be more nuanced but you get my point.





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There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.

Im glad to see this announcement, i can't wait for launch after past delays. I hope "everyone want the delay until at least 1st of june" is not too dissapointed, think positive Grin
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I'm just gonna repost this. Seems relevant atm.

You guys are nuts. And from what I've read so far, I mean all of you.

On the one side all those "Lisk is gonna fail" fudsters. You said it several times now, we heard you. We got it, you don't like this project, Max is basically still wearing diapers or something along those lines, javascript sucks anyway and I'm sure, someone's mom is fat.
I wonder what it is that makes you go to this thread and click on the "reply" button. Do you really have nothing better to do? How about developing some smart contracts for Ethereum, that you seem to love so much? Or developing your own crypto 2.0 currency, that makes everything right Lisk did wrong? Or a nice walk in the sun? Summer is coming, go eat some icecream. You can tell the icecream guy afterwards that you had way better icecream at that other place, or whatever you do when you interact with real people.

On the other side you "Lisk = 10$!!!1!!" guys. Do you really think you can make this a reality, just by saying it often enough? Guess what: Dapps don't develop themselves and it will take time. So, how about instead of going here and enter this intense virtual screaming match, you come up with some ideas how Lisk can actually be used* for something else than waiting for the cryptocurrency-fairy, that turns the BTC you stored under your pillow in even more BTC? You want Lisk to become the best thing since sliced bread and become filthy rich? Guess what, you gotta do, what everyone else does: You gotta work for it.

*drops mic*

*don't know where to start? How about here: https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=8
The Dapp-forum is public for a reason. Input is greatly appreciated.
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I really enjoy this thread. All this noise, all this accusation.  Grin
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Guys enjoy your day today and.think in great dapp ideas, great future ahead!!!!!!
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There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.
Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree.  Cheesy

Just demonstrates that the devs trust in the project and know what they're doing Wink

No panic at launch. With Lisk well valued, holders will need just a small portion of their stakes to take the risk in other projects.

dev showed their trust by developing it for so long but we are here to make money alot of investors dont care about decentralization they care about their next gift to buy their mistress



mutha fucker please.  no wonder you get ignored

1 ---    im pretty sure you admitted earlier you not an investor, you missed the ico, so don't say "investors want" "investors dont care about"
2   -- -- if your dumass actually hung out in the chat and forums you would see that ACTUAL INVESTORS,me included, come find me if u dare Grin  DO care about decentralization, in fact it's a hot topic with Lisk users, WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. ?

JESUS MAN. have you nothing better to do? sit around talk out your ass all day.....

you dirty little smelly girl

whether im a investor or not it dont matter what i am saying makes sense you bitch.
you prick i didnt say everyone i said alot otherwise there wouldnt be more talk of bullshit prices than tech you dipshit and the decentralization lisk has is nothing new others have got it too, its the sidechains people like about it. lisk isnt the first decentralized coin you rag doll

lisk is another coin just to make money

Money, money... Yeah, but even with all these ICOs around, after the Lisk launch it has potential to remain a smart option to make $$, with a reasonable risk.

yes after 4months we will see. until then dumps everywhere
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There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.
Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree.  Cheesy

Just demonstrates that the devs trust in the project and know what they're doing Wink

No panic at launch. With Lisk well valued, holders will need just a small portion of their stakes to take the risk in other projects.

dev showed their trust by developing it for so long but we are here to make money alot of investors dont care about decentralization they care about their next gift to buy their mistress



mutha fucker please.  no wonder you get ignored

1 ---    im pretty sure you admitted earlier you not an investor, you missed the ico, so don't say "investors want" "investors dont care about"
2   -- -- if your dumass actually hung out in the chat and forums you would see that ACTUAL INVESTORS,me included, come find me if u dare Grin  DO care about decentralization, in fact it's a hot topic with Lisk users, WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. ?

JESUS MAN. have you nothing better to do? sit around talk out your ass all day.....

you dirty little smelly girl

whether im a investor or not it dont matter what i am saying makes sense you bitch.
you prick i didnt say everyone i said alot otherwise there wouldnt be more talk of bullshit prices than tech you dipshit and the decentralization lisk has is nothing new others have got it too, its the sidechains people like about it. lisk isnt the first decentralized coin you rag doll

lisk is another coin just to make money

Money, money... Yeah, but even with all these ICOs around, after the Lisk launch it has potential to remain a smart option to make $$, with a reasonable risk.
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There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.
Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree.  Cheesy

Just demonstrates that the devs trust in the project and know what they're doing Wink

No panic at launch. With Lisk well valued, holders will need just a small portion of their stakes to take the risk in other projects.

dev showed their trust by developing it for so long but we are here to make money alot of investors dont care about decentralization they care about their next gift to buy their mistress



mutha fucker please.  no wonder you get ignored

1 ---    im pretty sure you admitted earlier you not an investor, you missed the ico, so don't say "investors want" "investors dont care about"
2   -- -- if your dumass actually hung out in the chat and forums you would see that ACTUAL INVESTORS,me included, come find me if u dare Grin  DO care about decentralization, in fact it's a hot topic with Lisk users, WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. ?

JESUS MAN. have you nothing better to do? sit around talk out your ass all day.....

you dirty little smelly girl

whether im a investor or not it dont matter what i am saying makes sense you bitch.
you prick i didnt say everyone i said alot otherwise there wouldnt be more talk of bullshit prices than tech you dipshit and the decentralization lisk has is nothing new others have got it too, its the sidechains people like about it. lisk isnt the first decentralized coin you rag doll

lisk is another coin just to make money
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Don't you looooooove how offensive my name sounds?
There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.
Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree.  Cheesy

Just demonstrates that the devs trust in the project and know what they're doing Wink

No panic at launch. With Lisk well valued, holders will need just a small portion of their stakes to take the risk in other projects.

dev showed their trust by developing it for so long but we are here to make money alot of investors dont care about decentralization they care about their next gift to buy their mistress



mutha fucker please.  no wonder you get ignored

1 ---    im pretty sure you admitted earlier you not an investor, you missed the ico, so don't say "investors want" "investors dont care about"
2   -- -- if your dumass actually hung out in the chat and forums you would see that ACTUAL INVESTORS,me included, come find me if u dare Grin  DO care about decentralization, in fact it's a hot topic with Lisk users, WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. ?

JESUS MAN. have you nothing better to do? sit around talk out your ass all day.....
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There will be no delay due to other ICO's ending close to Lisk's launch date. We will not play the markets, and never will.

Lisk, as with every other crypto-currency in existence, is another step towards the right direction. Most of the people involved in the decentralized movement have yet to see the importance of testing different kinds of algorithms. Lisk is the FIRST platform that will provide a viable solution to scalability with it's current sidechains platform. We are hopeful that our path of decentralized applications running on sidechains will bring further innovations within the crypto ecosystem. Success is a marathon; as seen with Bitcoin, it takes time. There is no certainty of success with any of the current crypto experiments, but we have the resources, the motivation and most importantly, the grit to make it succeed.

Look at the bigger picture, decentralized networks is a big change from the centralized world we currently live in. This is what the decentralized movement is striving for; the people should have a choice.
Very good to hear! No delays! Too many ICO's ending close to LISK launch date I agree.  Cheesy

Just demonstrates that the devs trust in the project and know what they're doing Wink

No panic at launch. With Lisk well valued, holders will need just a small portion of their stakes to take the risk in other projects.

dev showed their trust by developing it for so long but we are here to make money alot of investors dont care about decentralization they care about their next gift to buy their mistress

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Don't you looooooove how offensive my name sounds?
I missed the ICO Sad is it a good idea to buy lisk at launch or will it be too high then?

Maybe it's better to buy over the course of a few weeks. Every day a small chunk.
Yeah but on the launch day I don't know if price will be extremely high or extremely low or just average?? How much was the ico price for 1 lisk? Is 1.5btc investment into LISK a good idea when it launches?

dude who knows really ;\
my GUESS is we will have "profit dumpers" people happy with easy profit, maybe a few whales even, that sell around 0.0005-0.001-
big projects have "accumulation" stages after the initial dumps. that could be weeks, months, (years?)
when YOU get in and for what price you buy in at (and later sell at) is SOLELY dependent on
your own view on the length of maturity on investment with lisk
your own personal "sell price" (based on many personal factors.
what you plan on doing with your lisk after you buy it and b4 u sell it

so what price to buy in at? is 1.5btc enough?  
well that's up to you friend Grin
O and the ICO price finished about 18.5k shatoshi per lisk if i remember right Wink

good luck! Wink
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