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MalReynolds

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Quote from: batmanbad on April 14, 2016, 03:56:33 PM

Quote from: MalReynolds on April 14, 2016, 03:37:02 PM

Quote from: batmanbad on April 14, 2016, 03:33:04 PM

i have seen Phoenix1969 has 39271.07783689 lisk , he is one of those faucet spammers ?

Who knows? There were a lot of people that got large amounts of testnet Lisk from Oliver and Joel at the start. You can't just look at somebody with a high number of Lisk and automatically say they spammed the faucet. Testnet Lisk is free and has no value. It is used for TESTS. Nobody was really keeping track of it at the start and it's only important NOW because the testnet population is having to vote for delegates since about three days ago.

This is an interesting intellectual exercise but not a practical one.

search on the explorer : https://explorer.lisk.io/address/1748025357855339697L

Balance : 39286.07882698 LISK
forged : 6510.65841671 LISK -

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Difference 32775,42041027 LISK (90% from faucet)

tx

https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/825408615658378756

etcetera , etcetera and etcetera.

Huh. Interesting. Good job. Well, for what it's worth, *** I *** never spammed the faucet....

batmanbad

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Quote from: MalReynolds on April 14, 2016, 03:37:02 PM

Quote from: batmanbad on April 14, 2016, 03:33:04 PM

i have seen Phoenix1969 has 39271.07783689 lisk , he is one of those faucet spammers ?

Who knows? There were a lot of people that got large amounts of testnet Lisk from Oliver and Joel at the start. You can't just look at somebody with a high number of Lisk and automatically say they spammed the faucet. Testnet Lisk is free and has no value. It is used for TESTS. Nobody was really keeping track of it at the start and it's only important NOW because the testnet population is having to vote for delegates since about three days ago.

This is an interesting intellectual exercise but not a practical one.

ZenFr

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Quote from: cannabanana on April 14, 2016, 02:04:21 PM

Quote from: batmanbad on April 14, 2016, 01:54:30 PM

Quote from: MalReynolds on April 14, 2016, 01:23:35 PM

Quote from: bitbitch on April 14, 2016, 11:59:33 AM

so a delegate will need the support of at least three hundred voters to become a member of the magic 101 circle?

There's other considerations. Not all testnet users are equal, some are now whales. Several have hit the faucets repeatedly and accumulated a lot. Plus, the 101 have forged a lot and most now have 10,000 - 20,000 each. So you can become a testnet delegate if you get 15-20 out of the testnet 101 to sponsor you.

Max, Oliver and Joel have pulled out of instantly putting people in the 101 with their testnet millions and the testnet is now adjusting to "new rules and realities" that came into effect only a few days ago. It is not "voting chaos", but almost.

Wasn't the faucet limit one per address?
How did they accumulate a lot of lisk?
Can you tell us some nicknames?

most faucets can be spammed by changing your ip address

I don't want to vote for IP spammer !

cannabanana

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Quote from: MalReynolds on April 14, 2016, 03:34:48 PM

@LiskHQ - All the talk above aon testnet whales has me wondering about mainnet whales.

We can use the blockchain explorer to do a snapshot of the top 100 accounts (or even all accounts) at launch to get some idea of what is in the genesis block. However, individual ICO investors had multiple exchanges. So at launch many people will have multiple accounts spread over the genesis block.

Can you / will you please release a spreadsheet showing how many accounts (not exchanges) there were in the ICO, and the total amount of Lisk to be allocated to each ICO account?

This would be very interesting information to understand the initial distribution of Lisk.

+1 yes, please release a list.

lokojones

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How I can vote for delagate and is any benefit for me if I vote? Regards

MalReynolds

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Quote from: batmanbad on April 14, 2016, 03:33:04 PM

i have seen Phoenix1969 has 39271.07783689 lisk , he is one of those faucet spammers ?

Who knows? There were a lot of people that got large amounts of testnet Lisk from Oliver and Joel at the start. You can't just look at somebody with a high number of Lisk and automatically say they spammed the faucet. Testnet Lisk is free and has no value. It is used for TESTS. Nobody was really keeping track of it at the start and it's only important NOW because the testnet population is having to vote for delegates since about three days ago.

This is an interesting intellectual exercise but not a practical one.

ZenFr

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Quote from: raves on April 14, 2016, 12:21:04 PM

Quote from: cannabanana on April 14, 2016, 12:11:44 PM

Quote from: raves on April 14, 2016, 12:09:50 PM

Quote from: punkrock on April 14, 2016, 12:05:37 PM

Quote from: elitecstrike on April 14, 2016, 11:39:13 AM

When are the rewards for TWITTER and NEWSLETTER?

Twitter will be announced soon. Newsletter infos are starting today. I already got an e-mail.

I have not received any notification whatsoever..

I got my email. Check your spam box or you might not qualify.

I should.. at least I received a newsletter from them :/

Idem for me :-(.

MalReynolds

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Activity: 938

Merit: 1000

@LiskHQ - All the talk above on testnet whales has me wondering about mainnet whales.

We can use the blockchain explorer to do a snapshot of the top 100 accounts (or even all accounts) at launch to get some idea of what is in the genesis block. However, individual ICO investors could have multiple exchanges. So at launch many people will have multiple accounts spread over the genesis block.

Can you / will you please release a spreadsheet showing how many accounts (not exchanges) there were in the ICO, and the total amount of Lisk to be allocated to each ICO account?

This would be very interesting information to understand the initial distribution of Lisk.

batmanbad

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Activity: 270

Merit: 250

Quote from: MalReynolds on April 14, 2016, 03:11:16 PM

Quote from: batmanbad on April 14, 2016, 01:54:30 PM

Quote from: MalReynolds on April 14, 2016, 01:23:35 PM

Quote from: bitbitch on April 14, 2016, 11:59:33 AM

so a delegate will need the support of at least three hundred voters to become a member of the magic 101 circle?

There's other considerations. Not all testnet users are equal, some are now whales. Several have hit the faucets repeatedly and accumulated a lot. Plus, the 101 have forged a lot and most now have 10,000 - 20,000 each. So you can become a testnet delegate if you get 15-20 out of the testnet 101 to sponsor you.

Max, Oliver and Joel have pulled out of instantly putting people in the 101 with their testnet millions and the testnet is now adjusting to "new rules and realities" that came into effect only a few days ago. It is not "voting chaos", but almost.

Wasn't the faucet limit one per address?
How did they accumulate a lot of lisk?
Can you tell us some nicknames?

If you want to dig in and figure this out, be my guest. Here's how to do it.

Go to the delegate monitor and find the guy with the most votes (Rank of 1):

https://explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Looks like it's

1 Phoenix1969 1748025357855339697L 7164.87425828 LISK  95.83% 1.08%

where the 1.08% is 1% of 100M test Lisk so he's got 1.08M Lisk voting for him.

Now put the 1748025357855339697L address in here to see where those 1.08M votes came from:

http://liskers.club/

So here's everybody that contributed OVER 10K Lisk in votes to Phoenix1969 (there's a lot more UNDER 10K):

12198322211260154688L gregorst 11231.60715557
299599773283342541L L15Kf0RGE 11578.90020102
5327467788242764682L redsn0w 11615.17731661
2031553039045876399L CroDam2 11759.00029736
1479038695434861905L CannaBananaDelegate 11889.65026743
13400203520865344634L densmirnov 11901.58533791
2451864401095311425L vtoroi111 11924.18835687
4865951838781870898L Gr33nDrag0n 12306.85454974
6347187894686901138L Cryptostorms 12376.08757229
15934786530209109801L FabricioSS 12419.72574135
11964973353981161085L KS134 15128.75440359
14520757377911221701L joel 16300.89761793
11827477847453495423L Tharude_US_DDoS 17624.01120024
8532285419999413560L magnetic 17901.22425678
9368169126596625547L metal494 18770.41352077
14251405028911621564L ragnarok 20245.09872557
13596878578544940343L themaster 20785.41328721
10362564978609814948L SamurayDelegate 21456.22946477
6053073394501302382L genexese 35348.8741951
1748025357855339697L Phoenix1969 39263.03427254
1326549482697327657L Test01 41099
17957303129556813956L Nickname_Test_123 58496.61010176

Those names are Lisk account/delegate/node names. You can trace some of them back to specific Lisk.chat and bitcointalk users by using my handy-dandy delegate spreadsheet I am continuing to slowly compile and keep current:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bs7njoJwBTO31H2GJoWopNKKpAtggixsbZZiSIxQkRk/edit?usp=sheets_home

Note that the delegate monitor also has a tool / different tab to check individual accounts and also the top 100 accounts whether they are delegates or not. You can check transaction on individual accounts, too.

https://explorer.lisk.io/topAccounts

You want to go chase down who did what at the faucets? There are the tools, have fun.

Again, the current delegate monitor, top accounts, lisker.club and spreadsheet above are all TESTNET. I hope that all of them will be changed over to MAINNET in a couple of weeks.

i have seen Phoenix1969 has 39271.07783689 lisk , he is one of those faucet spammers ?

cannabanana

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Activity: 518

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Quote from: MGM on April 14, 2016, 03:16:36 PM

Quote from: cannabanana on April 14, 2016, 03:09:02 PM

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:59:04 PM

Quote from: cannabanana on April 14, 2016, 02:52:58 PM

There's more things to think of than that. What about duplicates and scammers who used more than one email to try and get more lisk? not that it matters cause you get them in like 4 weeks.

i hoped they checked that before sending e-mails.

but again: this was not the questions. and i think nobody can answer my question at the moment.....

and please don't just write anything if you don't have to say something useful Roll Eyes

how can they check that if they don't have the information to cross reference with? You are a fucking retard.

I was trying to help you out but I guess you wana bring on the mean banana.

just turned to:

better hide now...

lol

MGM

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Quote from: cannabanana on April 14, 2016, 03:09:02 PM

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:59:04 PM

Quote from: cannabanana on April 14, 2016, 02:52:58 PM

There's more things to think of than that. What about duplicates and scammers who used more than one email to try and get more lisk? not that it matters cause you get them in like 4 weeks.

i hoped they checked that before sending e-mails.

but again: this was not the questions. and i think nobody can answer my question at the moment.....

and please don't just write anything if you don't have to say something useful Roll Eyes

how can they check that if they don't have the information to cross reference with? You are a fucking retard.

I was trying to help you out but I guess you wana bring on the mean banana.

just turned to:

better hide now...

MalReynolds

legendary

Activity: 938

Merit: 1000

Quote from: batmanbad on April 14, 2016, 01:54:30 PM

Quote from: MalReynolds on April 14, 2016, 01:23:35 PM

Quote from: bitbitch on April 14, 2016, 11:59:33 AM

so a delegate will need the support of at least three hundred voters to become a member of the magic 101 circle?

There's other considerations. Not all testnet users are equal, some are now whales. Several have hit the faucets repeatedly and accumulated a lot. Plus, the 101 have forged a lot and most now have 10,000 - 20,000 each. So you can become a testnet delegate if you get 15-20 out of the testnet 101 to sponsor you.

Max, Oliver and Joel have pulled out of instantly putting people in the 101 with their testnet millions and the testnet is now adjusting to "new rules and realities" that came into effect only a few days ago. It is not "voting chaos", but almost.

Wasn't the faucet limit one per address?
How did they accumulate a lot of lisk?
Can you tell us some nicknames?

If you want to dig in and figure this out, be my guest. Here's how to do it.

Go to the delegate monitor and find the guy with the most votes (Rank of 1):

https://explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Looks like it's

1 Phoenix1969 1748025357855339697L 7164.87425828 LISK  95.83% 1.08%

where the 1.08% is 1% of 100M test Lisk so he's got 1.08M Lisk voting for him.

Now put the 1748025357855339697L address in here to see where those 1.08M votes came from:

http://liskers.club/

So here's everybody that contributed OVER 10K Lisk in votes to Phoenix1969 (there's a lot more UNDER 10K):

12198322211260154688L gregorst 11231.60715557
299599773283342541L L15Kf0RGE 11578.90020102
5327467788242764682L redsn0w 11615.17731661
2031553039045876399L CroDam2 11759.00029736
1479038695434861905L CannaBananaDelegate 11889.65026743
13400203520865344634L densmirnov 11901.58533791
2451864401095311425L vtoroi111 11924.18835687
4865951838781870898L Gr33nDrag0n 12306.85454974
6347187894686901138L Cryptostorms 12376.08757229
15934786530209109801L FabricioSS 12419.72574135
11964973353981161085L KS134 15128.75440359
14520757377911221701L joel 16300.89761793
11827477847453495423L Tharude_US_DDoS 17624.01120024
8532285419999413560L magnetic 17901.22425678
9368169126596625547L metal494 18770.41352077
14251405028911621564L ragnarok 20245.09872557
13596878578544940343L themaster 20785.41328721
10362564978609814948L SamurayDelegate 21456.22946477
6053073394501302382L genexese 35348.8741951
1748025357855339697L Phoenix1969 39263.03427254
1326549482697327657L Test01 41099
17957303129556813956L Nickname_Test_123 58496.61010176

Those names are Lisk account/delegate/node names. You can trace some of them back to specific Lisk.chat and bitcointalk users by using my handy-dandy delegate spreadsheet I am continuing to slowly compile and keep current:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bs7njoJwBTO31H2GJoWopNKKpAtggixsbZZiSIxQkRk/edit?usp=sheets_home

Note that the delegate monitor also has a tool / different tab to check individual accounts and also the top 100 accounts whether they are delegates or not. You can check transaction on individual accounts, too.

https://explorer.lisk.io/topAccounts

You want to go chase down who did what at the faucets? There are the tools, have fun.

Again, the current delegate monitor, top accounts, lisker.club and spreadsheet above are all TESTNET. I hope that all of them will be changed over to MAINNET in a couple of weeks.

cannabanana

hero member

Activity: 518

Merit: 501

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:59:04 PM

Quote from: cannabanana on April 14, 2016, 02:52:58 PM

There's more things to think of than that. What about duplicates and scammers who used more than one email to try and get more lisk? not that it matters cause you get them in like 4 weeks.

i hoped they checked that before sending e-mails.

but again: this was not the questions. and i think nobody can answer my question at the moment.....

and please don't just write anything if you don't have to say something useful Roll Eyes

how can they check that if they don't have the information to cross reference with? You are a fucking retard.

I was trying to help you out but I guess you wana bring on the mean banana.

vlom

legendary

Activity: 1498

Merit: 1117

Quote from: cannabanana on April 14, 2016, 02:52:58 PM

There's more things to think of than that. What about duplicates and scammers who used more than one email to try and get more lisk? not that it matters cause you get them in like 4 weeks.

i hoped they checked that before sending e-mails.

but again: this was not the questions. and i think nobody can answer my question at the moment.....

and please don't just write anything if you don't have to say something useful Roll Eyes

cannabanana

hero member

Activity: 518

Merit: 501

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:51:34 PM

Quote from: cannabanana on April 14, 2016, 02:48:02 PM

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:46:45 PM

Quote from: OCTOPARTY on April 14, 2016, 02:40:22 PM

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:38:16 PM

this topic is a mess.... i don't have the time to read 10 pages.

anybody knows how many lisk for newsletter?

https://blog.lisk.io/overview-of-all-available-bounties-f39814bca1cb#.4usp705vj

it's on page one of the thread, no time required lol

Newsletter Subscribers — 200,000 LISK

but how may subscribers are there?

gezus man, have you not thought that they haven't completed the calculations yet?

they are sending e-mails. so they have to know how many e-mails they sent. the calculation is not that difficult.

200,000 LISK / "number of e-mails sent" = amount per address.

There's more things to think of than that. What about duplicates and scammers who used more than one email to try and get more lisk? not that it matters cause you get them in like 4 weeks.

Bigcabrito

hero member

Activity: 504

Merit: 500

Communications Lead

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:38:16 PM

this topic is a mess.... i don't have the time to read 10 pages.

anybody knows how many lisk for newsletter?

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:51:34 PM

Quote from: cannabanana on April 14, 2016, 02:48:02 PM

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:46:45 PM

Quote from: OCTOPARTY on April 14, 2016, 02:40:22 PM

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:38:16 PM

this topic is a mess.... i don't have the time to read 10 pages.

anybody knows how many lisk for newsletter?

https://blog.lisk.io/overview-of-all-available-bounties-f39814bca1cb#.4usp705vj

it's on page one of the thread, no time required lol

Newsletter Subscribers — 200,000 LISK

but how may subscribers are there?

gezus man, have you not thought that they haven't completed the calculations yet?

they are sending e-mails. so they have to know how many e-mails they sent. the calculation is not that difficult.

200,000 LISK / "number of e-mails sent" = amount per address.

As with the Facebook Bounty Campaign, the amount of LISK earned will be calculated at launch.

We have seen cases where people did not receive the newsletter, so they will have until launch to verify they took part of the Newsletter Bounty Campaign. After the official launch, we are no longer going to verify either Facebook or Newsletter bounties.

More information will be coming really soon

(Please note I am merely expediting the process, these bounties were not meant to be calculated until after the official launch)

Joel

vlom

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Activity: 1498

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Quote from: cannabanana on April 14, 2016, 02:48:02 PM

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:46:45 PM

Quote from: OCTOPARTY on April 14, 2016, 02:40:22 PM

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:38:16 PM

this topic is a mess.... i don't have the time to read 10 pages.

anybody knows how many lisk for newsletter?

https://blog.lisk.io/overview-of-all-available-bounties-f39814bca1cb#.4usp705vj

it's on page one of the thread, no time required lol

Newsletter Subscribers — 200,000 LISK

but how may subscribers are there?

gezus man, have you not thought that they haven't completed the calculations yet?

they are sending e-mails. so they have to know how many e-mails they sent. the calculation is not that difficult.

200,000 LISK / "number of e-mails sent" = amount per address.

cannabanana

hero member

Activity: 518

Merit: 501

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:46:45 PM

Quote from: OCTOPARTY on April 14, 2016, 02:40:22 PM

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:38:16 PM

this topic is a mess.... i don't have the time to read 10 pages.

anybody knows how many lisk for newsletter?

https://blog.lisk.io/overview-of-all-available-bounties-f39814bca1cb#.4usp705vj

it's on page one of the thread, no time required lol

Newsletter Subscribers — 200,000 LISK

but how may subscribers are there?

gezus man, have you not thought that they haven't completed the calculations yet?

vlom

legendary

Activity: 1498

Merit: 1117

Quote from: OCTOPARTY on April 14, 2016, 02:40:22 PM

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:38:16 PM

this topic is a mess.... i don't have the time to read 10 pages.

anybody knows how many lisk for newsletter?

https://blog.lisk.io/overview-of-all-available-bounties-f39814bca1cb#.4usp705vj

it's on page one of the thread, no time required lol

Newsletter Subscribers — 200,000 LISK

but how may subscribers are there?

OCTOPARTY

hero member

Activity: 532

Merit: 500

Quote from: vlom on April 14, 2016, 02:38:16 PM

this topic is a mess.... i don't have the time to read 10 pages.

anybody knows how many lisk for newsletter?

https://blog.lisk.io/overview-of-all-available-bounties-f39814bca1cb#.4usp705vj

it's on page one of the thread, no time required lol

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