Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 1994. (Read 3074209 times)

This is fantastic price in my dreams. But we'll se, maybe dreams come true

source of the picture?

We are the #15 biggest crowd funded project of all time.
http://imgur.com/g7hGdSh
This thing gonna be an insane success for all of us.

Don't knock it, this is where we get our profits from

I think anything can ensure 100% @ryanb but I agree with you.

i believe it will be a lot higher.

https://lisk.chat

LISK  SLACK / that would be nice.

1 Lisk=$1?. This very well but I think it has much more potential .

It's amazing how many people do this and still have no understanding of Price, Supply and Market Cap.

I think coin/token amounts are important to consider, but at the same time, that doesn't always mean higher prices. The value of the software and platform will determine worth. I mean, look how much more Ether there is than Bitcoin, but if the Ethereum platform proves to provide more value, eventually it may pass Bitcoins price.

I would love for Lisk to hit an Ether like price, but even at $1 you are in profit.

good luck spreading worthless fud, maybe you can trap some newbie

Less than 4 years actually.  Ethereum is at least a year old already.  There are currently 78 million Ethereum is existence at the moment.

Some estimate price of Lisk when it comes to exchange?

Thanks.

Wow so LISK has 100 million coins compared to ETH 60 million (year one)....So good luck getting a higher price than ETH

construct new business models around distributed apps and distributed data. disrupt established markets and dominant players.

Mal Reynolds explains this so well! You have my gratitude!


LISK HOLDS THE FOLLOWING ADVANTAGES OVER ETHERIUM:

Javascript language simplicity vs Solidity language complexity
Like I said ... easy to write a Javascript compiler to Ethereum bytecode  
Let me know when it's done...or even started.  Even if an Ethereum JavaScript compiler  existed, Solidity is still an unstable language - why paste a compiler on top of it?

100,000+ JavaScript programmers vs. few Solidity programmers
The above argument eliminates this so called advantage of lisk
The above argument is vaporware.  JavaScript programmers can start coding Lisk dapps right now.

Single hash generated  vs. trillions of valid but discarded hashes generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime
Makes no sense at all
I've explained this several times.  Churning out trillions of wasted hashes means lots of wasted electricity - like literally a nuclear powerplant's worth for Bitcoin - and is an ever-growing financial overhead that will ultimately kill the coin.

Cooperative, efficient blockchain generation vs. competitive, wasteful blockchain generation
looks like the same as above
No, it's the key reason Lisk can run on a $9 CHIP computer and Ethereum can't.  Economies of scale hugely favor Lisk over BTC/ETH.

Stable roundtable clockwork forging vs. unsustainable, exponentially growing free-for-all mining
Forging is no different than mining ... just different ways to make the currency
It is so sad to see people that don't understand enough math to get why exponential growth is unsustainable, or why a stable system is different and better from an unstable one.

Dapps on individual sidechains vs. dapps on bloated mainchain
Ethereum dapps are also sidechains .. lol .. you seem to be uninformed
The Ethereum Guide says its dapps are deployed on the mainchain ( https://gavofyork.gitbooks.io/turboethereum/content/dapps_deployment.html ).  Practically, in Ethereum dapps are just specialized "contracts".  There's my showdown cards in this poker hand - what's your counter-reference to prove what you are saying about Ethereum sidechains?  Prove to me that each dapp in Ethereum has its own separate blockchain as they do in Lisk.

Min of 2-4 to max of 101 cheap $35 Pi2 / $9 CHIP microcomputers needed for each sidechain backbone vs. large, unlimited numbers of expensive GPU systems needed for mainchain backbone
The GPU rings will not be used once POS for eth sets in
So...PoS for ETH is vaporware, got it.  How can you know that Eth PoS will run on microcomputers like Lisk does if ETH PoS finally shows up?  What happens to all those sad little GPU miners whose income stream will be cut off?

Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required
Ah ... What can possibly be the use of the beloved LISK then ...
What part of "free" vs. "paying for ETH gas" is so hard to understand?  Free is better.  Lisk is still the exchange coin of choice within the dapp itself.

Difference between Lisk Forging and Ethereum Mining

With Lisk, generating a new block for the blockchain is called "forging" (in the "blacksmith" instead of the "counterfeiter" sense of that term), not mining.  Mining is a Bitcoin / Etherium term that refers to competitive generation of thousands of millions of billions of useless hashes looking for a string of leading zeros in the hash that is a "lucky ticket" declaring a particular miner to be the winner of a reward.  Forging is a cooperative  generation of one and only one necessary hash to secure the Lisk blockchain, for which you are paid a set fee when it's your turn to do it.  During the first year a Lisk forger makes 5 Lisk per block forged, which happens like clockwork about once every 17 minutes, for a total of 150K Lisk in the first year.

In a pure PoS system, the richest coin holders that set up a forging node get most of the rewards from running those nodes.  With DPoS, anybody can set up a forging node no matter how much or how little of the coin they hold, as long as they pay (for Lisk) a 100 coin start fee.   Under DPoS, a poor coin holder / node runner gets the same rewards as a rich coin holder / node runner.  Thus there is incentive for poor coin holders to run a good node to increase their coin holdings.  Since there's a lot more poor coin holders than rich ones, the pool of potential node runners is much bigger.  This is a Good Thing.

Lisk generating only one hash per blocktime is one of its huge advantages over Bitcoin and Ethereum and their huge waste of resources.  

Lisk is literally trillions of times more efficient in CPU cycles per block generated compared to Bitcoin or Ethereum.  This is why Lisk can use really cheap computers, while Bitcoin and Ethereum are trapped forever to use a hugely expensive, wasteful and unneeded overhead infrastructure - all those warehouses full of mining rigs, whether ASIC or GPU based.

Now THAT'S stupid - and most Bitcoin and Ethereum people have no idea just how stupid it is.  

Lisk Coin Inflation Is Much Lower Than Ethereum Coin Inflation

Even if you develop them open source, that doesn't mean you have to give the app away for free. In fact with Lisk or Ether built in as a payment channel, not only can you sell for your app, you could also simply rent usage of your app.

Also, consider this, both cloud services and regular hosted servers go down... selling or renting your app via a blockchain, you are almost guaranteed 100% up time for the customer using your app.

The dapp creator can set the fees he charges for the use of his dapp. The dapp can receive Lisk at its own multisig address and provide the service directly in exchange for payment or can issue its own token on its own blockchain to user accounts in exchange for deposits of Lisk. The dapp can also make payments of Lisk back out to other Lisk addresses. Dapps may even exchange Lisk among each other. The dapp owner may also charge for downloads of his dapp from the dapp store.

Is there a LSK Slack channel?